Jogging?

I started week 1, day 1 of c25k last night. Prior to starting, I swam 2.5 miles. I can walk for long distances without getting tired - but I can't jog for longer than 45 seconds without feeling like I'm dying. What I can I do to help get my body in shape enough to jog, let alone run?
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  • Mlkmaid
    Mlkmaid Posts: 356 Member
    I did the program three or four years ago and I know what you're talking about. You were either running to fast or anxiety got you. Don't think about it - just do it. Job and talk to yourself. You should be able to hold a conversation. Every so often. Just start talking. Experts describe it as "breathless conversation". Not comfortable, but doable. After a couple of weeks you'll be surprised how easy it is. There will be weeks where you'll feel like you can't do it and that's the point - you're challenging your body when your intervals go up and then *poof* they get easy. Now, 3 miles is a piece of cake for me. When I started, 30 seconds made me want to barf. So this is all part of the process. You obviously are in fairly good shape. Maybe you're psyching yourself out.
  • Couch to 5K is how I did it. It'll get you there. I couldn't walk without getting winded when I started and now I'll jog for about an hour in the evenings and I'll go about 4.5 to 5.5 miles. In the beginning there were times where I wanted to throw up or cry but my body got stronger and as time went by I found that I loved running. You'll get there. Keep it up!!!
  • LearnFromTheRed
    LearnFromTheRed Posts: 294 Member
    I think running is just a much bigger impact on the body - it always seems to quite literally 'shift' everything for me!
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    Two words.......slow down, and if you can't run slowly for 45 seconds do it for 30 seconds and build up to 45 seconds & 1 minute etc etc. If you find yourself getting out of breath slow down even more....your breathing should be deep and relaxed.

    When I started running I couldn't make it around the block without feeling death would be a blessed release.....so I started with 1 minute of pathetically slow (almost a shuffle) "running" with 9 minutes of walking, then 2 minutes of running with 8 minutes walking and so on until I could eventually go 10 minutes without walking. It took a number of years but I'm now running half-marathon distances.

    Be patient and be consistent. It takes time to build you aerobic base. Don't feel like you have to follow someone else's schedule (I find the C25K is a bit aggressive for many new runners - not everyone can go from zero to 5K in 9 or 10 weeks)
  • Liz_Mfp
    Liz_Mfp Posts: 172 Member
    Slow Down
    Then Slow down some more

    C25k is too strenuous for beginners

    Better to try
    http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/condition.html
  • wendinoggle
    wendinoggle Posts: 12 Member
    C25K was too aggressive for me. I am very new to running/ jogging too. So I started doing one min walk, one min run. It was pretty hard to start. I did that for two weeks. Then went to two min walk, two min run. Now, I do two min walk, 6 min run, then alternate every two min walk/rum. I don't feel like I'm dying anymore, but I certainly am spent by the end of those twenty min. I'm just going to do what my body allows and push myself in small increments so I am not discouraged.
  • GetSoda
    GetSoda Posts: 1,267 Member
    Pace yourself, and push yourself. Check your form.
    Some people waste a ton of energy jogging/running because they have no idea how to do it.
  • Sjenny5891
    Sjenny5891 Posts: 717 Member
    I find it hard. I can walk 4 to 4.5mph on a flat surface. I was under the impression running was faster than that, but it isn't.
    According to some in the c25k group on MFP, you can "run" slower than you walk. When you walk, you have one foot on the ground at all times- when you run, you don't.

    It's hard. I hate watching the clock, I find it distracting. I just run as long as I can, walk a little bit, and run some more.
  • clarkeje1
    clarkeje1 Posts: 1,641 Member
    c25k works! and SLOW DOWN
  • froeschli
    froeschli Posts: 1,292 Member
    Relax and slow down, it's not about speed yet (and it shouldn't be for a while).
    I did a couch to 10k plan, and it seemed really hard at first, but then after about two weeks something "clicked" and I found my pace, and figured out the breathing. Counting breaths really helped me take my mind off of running 2 steps in 2 steps out, or whatever works for you ;-)
  • lmckillo
    lmckillo Posts: 127 Member
    You should be able to talk while you jog, if you can't your going to fast. Another thing to try is this....run from one telephone pole to the next then walk from pole to pole...do this for a while then run two poles and walk one ...then three poles then one, etc etc . Before you know it you will be running a full mile without thinking about it.
  • Miss_Maree
    Miss_Maree Posts: 33
    These are all good tips. You can also try breathing rhythmically with each step to make sure you're taking deep enough breaths/getting enough oxygen. Breathe in through your nose when your right foot goes down, keep breathing in when your left goes down, and when the right goes down again, exhale through your mouth, continue exhaling when your left goes down, then when your right goes down again, breathe in through your nose.

    So with each right step, you are starting to inhale or exhale.

    You might find a different pace to be more comfortable for your body, but once you find a rhythm that works for you, the consistency in your steps and breathing could help your endurance.

    If you are still having trouble, maybe just power-walk until you build up your cardio-respiratory endurance. This is also better on your joints!
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    Run slow don't be embaresed even if it's slower than your walk. You should be able to hold a conversation if you can't slow down.
  • StripedSmoker
    StripedSmoker Posts: 104 Member
    Run as much as you feel good with, do it regularily and you will notice how you slowly can run longer and faster without getting as tired as you used to. Really, there's not much of a secret to it :)
    Currently I don't run because my foot is swollen and hurting (oops) but I love running, yet I am not good at it. I love running really quick, but I want to increase my stamina- so I reward myself with little sprints now and then. Rewarding yourself is a good motivation and having the willpower to actually do it is all you need. Slow but steady.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    Prior to starting, I swam 2.5 miles.

    You mean RIGHT before you started running? I don't swim, but that seems like a pretty long swim to me.

    Try C25K again when you're fresh and not already partially (or totally) spent from another exercise.
  • kns6374
    kns6374 Posts: 29
    Slow Down
    Then Slow down some more

    C25k is too strenuous for beginners

    Better to try
    http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/condition.html


    Thank you all so much for the help! And I checked out the website recommended - my workout partner and I are going to try this first and see if it'll help build us up better!
  • MaureenH39
    MaureenH39 Posts: 315 Member
    I just did week 6, day 2 of C25K and two things I can tell you is you should be jogging at a conversational pace....you should be able to still talk while jogging and TIME :smile: It takes time. Your breathing will get better. When I first started I felt totally out of breath by 45 seconds and now last Tuesday I jogged for 20 minutes straight. This program worked very well for me :smile: I have never been a runner before this program. Don't worry about speed at all....that will come later on just work on endurance and increase the amount of time you can jog.
  • SpleenThief
    SpleenThief Posts: 293 Member
    ...Prior to starting, I swam 2.5 miles.

    To clarify - you swam 2.5 miles, changed and then started running? As in one workout right after another? If that's the case, this is one factor. I'm an experienced runner and a decent swimmer. Back to back workouts like that are brutal. Space them out, think of them as two separate things. Run early in the morning and get your swim on later that night.

    If you're talking about 2.5 mile swim, non stop you've obviously got a good aerobic engine. You'll just need to acclimate your legs and joints to running. C25k is a very conservative way to do so. Good chance you can make progress more aggressively than the schedule calls for but I would start with that and see how it makes you feel.
  • AmyRhubarb
    AmyRhubarb Posts: 6,890 Member
    Stick with the program, it works!

    Like you, I was a walker - I could walk, and walk fast, all day long with no problems. But running was completely different, and I was surprised at how sore I was, and how my legs, feet, ankles - everything felt different than it did with just walking.

    As others have said - slow down. Go as slowly as you need to in order to complete each session. Slow jogging is still jogging! Stick to the program as it is written - three days a week, do the intervals for each day, including the warm up & cool down walks. Stretch well when you're done.

    The c25k program turned me into a runner at the age of 43 - over a year and half later and I'm still running and enjoying it. You can do it!
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Go as slow as you need to. If you can only do 30sec to start, then fine. But slowly push to increase that. Whether it I from 30sec to 1 minute or 30 sec to 40. Be consistent and don't give up! whether it takes a few months or a year to be able to run 10min, then do it. Commit to succeeding and you will :)
  • Hezzietiger1
    Hezzietiger1 Posts: 1,256 Member
    it's all about your breathing. U are probably breathing like a swimmer and not like a runner. 2 breaths in thru your nose and 3 breaths out thru your mouth.. practice practice and just keep with the c25k program.
  • wadedawg
    wadedawg Posts: 315
    c25k works! and SLOW DOWN

    This

    I completed C25K. When I started, the week 1 runs killed me. But I stuck with it, and it worked like a champ. When I completed the 9 weeks, I was running 30 minutes straight at like 4.5 mph. That's not 5k, but it's a great start. I'm up to 4 miles or so 3 days a week now. Trust me, C25K works.
  • ptak1sm
    ptak1sm Posts: 172
    http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/walk_breaks.html

    My dad is a marathoner/ultra-marathoner and has trained for his runs using this technique. I started running in April and have completed 2 races so far this year using this method. I'm convinced I couldn't have finished nearly as well if I didn't incorporate short (but brisk) walk breaks every 2 or 3 minutes. Most beginners can do really well with 1:1 (minute running, minute walking) intervals. Don't worry about your pace; if you want to "run" a mile, go as slow as you need to. Listen to your body, take your walk breaks, stay properly hydrated.

    If time becomes a concern for you, consider this: my dad ran his first marathon straight through, no walk breaks. He added walking intervals for his second marathon and cut 30 minutes off his time.

    Good luck!
  • jsmax
    jsmax Posts: 2
    I didn't follow any program really, i "wing'ed" it. started at the end of september and ran a half marathon march 16 :) then proceeded to do a bunch of 5k's and 10k's haha! but I never followed any program, I followed my body. I run about every other day or so, and cross train on opposite days, I:E: turbo fire, elliptical, yoga, hip hob abs....and my speed is improving.
    dont forget you are also starting in the middle of summer. this heat/humidity doesn't help runners at all. I have to walk a bit more and i have to hydrate alot more also. I go out with a wet head and a cool towel lmao!
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,658 Member
    Slow Down
    Then Slow down some more


    C25k is too strenuous for beginners

    Better to try
    http://www.jeffgalloway.com/training/condition.html

    I don't know anything about c25k, I never did that program, however, many try to go out too fast, they think they are only slow jogging but they are not, they are going faster than they need to at that stage in their training.

    I fully agree re the slow down, then slow down some more. In fact, when I first started running outdoors (used to train on my treadmill all the time) I remembered seeing that advice to somebody else on here and heeded it and it worked.

    Out of interest, when doing the c25k, how long do you have to run for without stopping during the first day? Curious.
  • MaureenH39
    MaureenH39 Posts: 315 Member
    60 seconds the first day of C25K
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,658 Member
    60 seconds the first day of C25K

    Ahh right I see.

    OP you know what I would do if I were you, run for 45 secs, walk until the next bit whereby you are supposed to run. You will probably have to do two weeks of "week 1" - would it be possible to do that?
  • kns6374
    kns6374 Posts: 29
    To clarify my exercise regimen for the day, I swam for 2.5 miles, had about a 15 minute rest, then started walking. I've noticed through a little perseverance, my endurance during jogging has slowly but surely built up. We've also started stretching a bit before our walk/jog and it's helped ease the pain a bit. We're going to start swimming in the mornings, and the walking/jogging in the afternoons. We also switched to the Jeff Galloway program first, to help get our bodies use to the process of jogging. I think I might have poor form when jogging, which as has been stated, can burn through my energy quick. I've slowed down A LOT, but I still get extremely winded faster than I'd like.

    Are there any stretches specifically for beginner runners? Do they really help /that/ much?
  • kns6374
    kns6374 Posts: 29
    60 seconds the first day of C25K

    Ahh right I see.

    OP you know what I would do if I were you, run for 45 secs, walk until the next bit whereby you are supposed to run. You will probably have to do two weeks of "week 1" - would it be possible to do that?


    It's pretty much what we did at first, before switching to a less strenuous program to help get us in better shape. I couldn't keep up with the jogging for 60 seconds, walking for 120 seconds. So, we'd go for as long as I could without feeling like I was dying, then walk until I felt energized enough to jog again.
  • __Di__
    __Di__ Posts: 1,658 Member
    To clarify my exercise regimen for the day, I swam for 2.5 miles, had about a 15 minute rest, then started walking. I've noticed through a little perseverance, my endurance during jogging has slowly but surely built up. We've also started stretching a bit before our walk/jog and it's helped ease the pain a bit. We're going to start swimming in the mornings, and the walking/jogging in the afternoons. We also switched to the Jeff Galloway program first, to help get our bodies use to the process of jogging. I think I might have poor form when jogging, which as has been stated, can burn through my energy quick. I've slowed down A LOT, but I still get extremely winded faster than I'd like.

    Are there any stretches specifically for beginner runners? Do they really help /that/ much?

    Personally, I never stretch beforehand - or afterwards come to think of it.

    My heartrate does tend to rise very quickly when I am running though, causing of course, breathlessness. However, I recently discovered I have exercise induced asthma so now take a spray from my asthma pump about 20 mins before I go running. I have also discovered, that if I start off running slow, I do not get half as breathless, I was just going off too fast, too soon.

    I firmly believe that as you continue running and training, you will eventually get much better and efficient in your breathing, it's just giving it time.