This Protein is not for amateurs

Melanie_RS
Melanie_RS Posts: 417 Member
in Food and Nutrition
So, I bought some protein supplement from the pharmacy today (compounding pharmacy - not like CVS) and it was pretty darn expensive - almost 60$. however, it's "Proprietary Non-Denatured Whey Protein" ...

which I also ordered regular Whey Protein from amazon for 20$ before I bought this other stuff....

but now I'm wondering....is all protein denatured in regular protein powders for the pharmaceutical grade to have to specify that theirs isn't?

btw, the pharmaceutical grade is simply DIVINE tasting. extremely smooth and you'd never guess it was a powder drink. no aftertaste. 1 scoop = 130 calories = 24 grams of protein. (NON-denatured protein to you)

http://patient.designsforhealth.com/Whey-Cool-Powder-Plain


but I'm a bit p$sed b/c the lady said it was gluten and dairy free (which it's not dairy free) and I wasn't buying it for me - but it looks like I'll get to drink it anyway as it's now useless to someone who is casein free.

so, anyone want to whey/weigh in on this? yes I read the website, but I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts/anecdotes/experience/science on if it actually makes a physiological difference ... I know a lot of people get great results using the regular (and supposedly denatured protein) powder so....WTH?

did I just throw away my $?

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  • JayByrd107
    JayByrd107 Posts: 282 Member
    I don't know why the protein being denatured would matter. Protein that has been exposed to heat or acid will get denatured. That includes pretty much all natural animal-sourced proteins that we consume like meat and eggs, and all non-raw dairy. I've heard some people say that it lowers bioavailability but if that mattered, we'd all have to be taking this stuff to get "good" protein.
  • Polly758
    Polly758 Posts: 623 Member
    1. I have never seen "look for non-denatured products" when researching protein powders. What claim do they make regarding why to buy non-denatured? Is it for a medical reason beyond needing to gain weight healthily? Sounds sketchy to me.
    2. If the "pharmaceutical grade" is smooth, it's because it's instantized. I use Optimum Nutrition and it mixes into water very well.
    3. Whey is a milk product so no, it isn't dairy free. You'll want soy, hemp, pea, rice, egg... or just look for a vegan protein powder, which is gonna be expensive.
    3. Nice dragon :)
  • xarge
    xarge Posts: 484 Member
    did I just throw away my $?

    :/

    Denaturation is the change in protein structure~ molecular folding. Low pH of stomach already denatures most proteins like cooking does. There are chaperone proteins in human cells that can refold, renature proteins before they're used in protein synthesis. I don't see the point of non denatured proteins for nutrition unless I'm using them in lab (genetics major).
  • iWaffle
    iWaffle Posts: 2,208 Member
    $60 for 2 pounds of protein. That's too rich for my taste. Call me an amateur and pass the $18 protein jar.
  • daniel1hp
    daniel1hp Posts: 18
    Next time go to some review site that has vegan protein powders. http://veganproteinpowders.net is a good one I know of, the highest rated ones are actually pretty tasty.
  • geekyjock76
    geekyjock76 Posts: 2,720 Member
    Denaturation is the change in protein structure~ molecular folding. Low pH of stomach already denatures most proteins like cooking does. There are chaperone proteins in human cells that can refold, renature proteins before they're used in protein synthesis. I don't see the point of non denatured proteins for nutrition unless I'm using them in lab (genetics major).
    Bingo. All protein consumed gets denatured after you toss it in your mouth. So yes, you kinda spent more than you had to on protein.
  • TArnold2012
    TArnold2012 Posts: 929 Member
    No you didn't waste your money when you demand a refund for being sold something that contains milk and you were told it did not.

    Now should you chose to keep the stuff then its a different story
  • birdieaz
    birdieaz Posts: 448 Member
    80% protein percentage for $60?? No thanks, I can get 82% at Walmart for $20

    Seems no better than loads of other protein powders out there. For the money I would want a lot less filler.
  • Melanie_RS
    Melanie_RS Posts: 417 Member
    thanks guys, I'm getting my 20$ protein from amazon today and I expect that it will suit me just fine. I've been using the other $$$ stuff bc I can't take it back - just their policy (with an apology) .


    lesson learned!
  • Melanie_RS
    Melanie_RS Posts: 417 Member
    recant - maybe - on another note, I've been reading - and I guess it just depends what research you want to believe.

    end of story - it's like everything else. confusing and you get inundated with "facts" from either side claiming to know it all.

    so....

    I guess the most gentle hypo-allergenic protein people can supplement with is hemp, pea or brown rice.

    we used brown rice to begin with - so, the old addage, if it ain't broke....applies. happy friday everyone.
  • WendyTerry420
    WendyTerry420 Posts: 13,274 Member
    A lot of whey protein isolates use petroleum-based solvents in them. Ickky from my POV
  • nicolasburnosky
    nicolasburnosky Posts: 2
    1. I have never seen "look for non-denatured products" when researching protein powders. What claim do they make regarding why to buy non-denatured? Is it for a medical reason beyond needing to gain weight healthily? Sounds sketchy to me.
    3. Whey is a milk product so no, it isn't dairy free. You'll want soy, hemp, pea, rice, egg... or just look for a vegan protein powder, which is gonna be expensive.
    3. Nice dragon :)
    1. Pharmaceutical grade protein increases the amount of protein that you can absorb from meals and supplements alike because it has a much higher BV. Essentially making all the protein you take in do its job better.
    3. As an isolate, whey has it's lactase and most of the fat removed. Whey has the highest BV of the proteins you mentioned.
  • born2drum
    born2drum Posts: 731 Member
    My protein powder is $50 for a 5lb tub. 1 scoop = 140 cals, 25 g protein, 3.5g carbs, 2.5g fat, 4.5g L-Glutamine, plus BCAAs and tastes great. I'm happy. Use it 4-5 times a week now. I like to eat :)

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