Having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks
kathleenbritting
Posts: 16
I've been reading about adaptive thermogenesis and rapid weight loss with excessive skin. When l was loosing 3 years ago I used to have what I called Cheat days. I would eat anything I wanted for 1 day, every 2 to 3 weeks. I had lost 40 pounds but had no trouble with loose skin. Now granted it's 3 years later but, I'm thinking of doing the same thing. Any thoughts?
0
Replies
-
I lost 100 lbs pretty rapidly and I do have a problem with loose skin. Its been 3+ years but I still have it. I'm kind of an "All or nothing" person. I have a hard time with moderation. If I eat bad, I tend to eat REALLY bad.
My new mentality though is the 80/20 rule. If I eat well 80% of the time, its okay to eat what I want 20% of the time. That's not necessarily the best way to go about losing weight, but it helps me be kind to myself and not to beat myself up when I eat poorly. Cheat days happen!
The year I lost the 100 lbs though I never cheated. I was very rigid with my diet and did really well. My chiropractor said that loose skin will eventually "Go back to how it was before"... To which I thought to myself "It was never small before!"
I think if one cheat day every 2-3 weeks helps keep you from going overboard, its a good thing! I'm not sure it has any effect on loose skin though. (I typed an awful lot to get to that point!)
0 -
Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k0 -
the proper new age, participation trophy generational, don't hurt my feelings, term is "refeed".0
-
the proper new age, participation trophy generational, don't hurt my feelings, term is "refeed".
^^0 -
the proper new age, participation trophy generational, don't hurt my feelings, term is "refeed".
I'm slow, what the hell does that mean?0 -
Just one meal is a better idea. Your right. It would be way too easy to go way overboard.0
-
I'm not sure what you are telling me. Are you saying that a cheat meal is called re feeding?0
-
This content has been removed.
-
I would say probably to avoid having a full day of cheat but consider this:
80 20 rule
It means 80% of the time you eat really well and you make all the proper and best choices you can. I follow canada food guide and a calorie limit set by my nutritionist, but I allow 20% of my food to be not so healthy.
For example, most of the time I eat fresh vegetables (raw, you don't have to go this far though, I do it because it's fast), a 3 ounce piece of meat, I get my grains and dairy in. But on fridays, I allow myself to have something like pizza or a burger for dinner.
I also try to plan ahead, so I eat less grains earlier or meat/alternatives earlier in the day. I don't put the pepperoni on my pizza, but some days if I want to still save calories but enjoy pizza, I don't put bacon on it. I double up on the vegetables on it, etc.
You can still enjoy your foods but you want to avoid extremes in either direction. I use the 80 20 rule as my motivation as it is what allows me to have my 20% and enjoy it. I definitely might have a day where I'm higher in calories but I have a day where I am lower too. It should balance out at the end of the week and never be an extreme. You want to build healthy habits for life and find something that works for you.
Overall I find this helps me control my eating and keep portions proper as well as have something to look forward to. I no longer feel like I'm never going to have something I enjoy again. I enjoy every meal now and everything is balanced!
Maybe this will work for you
I was introduced to this 80 20 rule by my nutritionist and it has proved to be amazing.0 -
I was wondering the same thing :O0
-
80/20 flexible dieting it. eat 80% clean and 20% dirty. enjoy something late in the evening. ice cream, a snickers bar, whatever just watch for the calories, carbs, and fats though.0
-
Thumbs upI would say probably to avoid having a full day of cheat but consider this:
80 20 rule
It means 80% of the time you eat really well and you make all the proper and best choices you can. I follow canada food guide and a calorie limit set by my nutritionist, but I allow 20% of my food to be not so healthy.
For example, most of the time I eat fresh vegetables (raw, you don't have to go this far though, I do it because it's fast), a 3 ounce piece of meat, I get my grains and dairy in. But on fridays, I allow myself to have something like pizza or a burger for dinner.
I also try to plan ahead, so I eat less grains earlier or meat/alternatives earlier in the day. I don't put the pepperoni on my pizza, but some days if I want to still save calories but enjoy pizza, I don't put bacon on it. I double up on the vegetables on it, etc.
You can still enjoy your foods but you want to avoid extremes in either direction. I use the 80 20 rule as my motivation as it is what allows me to have my 20% and enjoy it. I definitely might have a day where I'm higher in calories but I have a day where I am lower too. It should balance out at the end of the week and never be an extreme. You want to build healthy habits for life and find something that works for you.
Overall I find this helps me control my eating and keep portions proper as well as have something to look forward to. I no longer feel like I'm never going to have something I enjoy again. I enjoy every meal now and everything is balanced!
Maybe this will work for you
I was introduced to this 80 20 rule by my nutritionist and it has proved to be amazing.0 -
This content has been removed.
-
the proper new age, participation trophy generational, don't hurt my feelings, term is "refeed".
I'm slow, what the hell does that mean?
Cheat is a word with a negative connotation. Refeed implies purpose to overindulgence.0 -
Or eat nothing but full fat dairy, ice cream, pudding, pizza, fresh Serbian loaf
, black pudding, cheese and strawberries to lose weight! C'mon, pull me! 0 -
Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
This. I eat what I want, when I want, and have lost weight. It's about moderation not deprivation.0 -
pfff... stop making sense.Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
This. I eat what I want, when I want, and have lost weight. It's about moderation not deprivation.0 -
pfff... stop making sense.Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
This. I eat what I want, when I want, and have lost weight. It's about moderation not deprivation.
I know right?!?1 What was I thinking?!?!?!0 -
So I guess I used the wrong words when I asked my question. I am pretty happy with the way I'm eating now. My loss is slow an steady . What I was wondering was, if you have a day every 2 to 3 weeks that you eat more calories than your baseline to loose, do you think this might decrease the amount of loose skin that stays behind after a quick and large weight loss? The whole eating more to loose and resetting your metabolism.0
-
Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
Because..
A: Crap food is more calorie dense
B: You're more then likely to binge after due to crap food not filling you up
C: Nutritional values in processed crap junk food are of hardly any benefit to you.0 -
This content has been removed.
-
Please stop.Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
Because..
A: Crap food is more calorie dense
B: You're more then likely to binge after due to crap food not filling you up
C: Nutritional values in processed crap junk food are of hardly any benefit to you.
To the OP. A refeed and a cheat meal are not the same. Refeed are targeted over feeding for a slight physical and mental boost. Cheat days, meals, etc are used by those who deny themselves of certain foods.0 -
So I guess I used the wrong words when I asked my question. I am pretty happy with the way I'm eating now. My loss is slow an steady . What I was wondering was, if you have a day every 2 to 3 weeks that you eat more calories than your baseline to loose, do you think this might decrease the amount of loose skin that stays behind after a quick and large weight loss? The whole eating more to loose and resetting your metabolism.
Loose skin is mostly based on total amount lost and genetics. If your loss is slow and steady, refeeds will help for psychology and/or hormonal reasons but won't much affect loose skin. Loose skin will take longer to readsorb (perhaps even a year or two after going to maintenance) or if the loss is large and long require surgery - if you are concerned about loose skin then exercising, keeping active, eating a nutrional variety are all good things.0 -
Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
Because..
A: Crap food is more calorie dense
B: You're more then likely to binge after due to crap food not filling you up
C: Nutritional values in processed crap junk food are of hardly any benefit to you.
A. Even non crap food food can be high in calories.
B. Depriving yourself of things the way you say is more likely to lead to a binge than practicing moderation. No one is telling you to have pizza and ice cream all day. It's about learning to have a balance in life. Allowing yourself the room to have foods that you might consider "crap" eliminates the psychological torture so many people put themselves through which leads to failure.
C. I'm sure the crap food you speak of combined with the "good" foods lead to a well balanced day.
Maybe your issue isn't that you can't rind a balance. Maybe it's that you don't know how to practice self control.
A: Maybe but it's not that many tbh and you can eat far more filling meals with a good range of foods compared to one crap food which will still leave you hungry due to what's in it.
B: Depriving yourself teaches you self control it also breeds new habits and breaks old ones that have kept you fat in the past. The bs excuse people use to eat whatever they want as nothing to do with torture they just don't have no self control and clearly do not want to change the bad habits which have made em fat in the first place. (I've been there and done it)
C: It depends on what you class as bad foods though and it also needs to fit into you goals. But tell me why would anyone go have some chocolate after a nice clean deal just to get hit by a big sugar rush that then leads to hunger pans again as they come crashing down from the insulin spike?
As for me not finding right balance I've found it perfect and I hardly ever eat crap now and that's because I've broke the psychological barrier associated with eating crap. It's not that I don't want it either it's just that I'm far more happier eating a big plate of chicken and broccoli with a pepsi max rather than going Mcdonalds and eating a burger with fries and a coke. it's also cheaper. In fact my food bills have halved pretty much. No more spending £10-20 a day at the shop buying junk or take aways.
As for self control I have plenty of that and that's down to breaking those psychological barriers associated with junk food. I went in cold turkey on a very strict keto diet to break the habits and one of the reasons I choose the strict keto diet is because I knew for a fact it stops cravings within a few days I actually lost 21lb in a month on it, broke every bad habit I had and 4 months on I'm down 65lbs.0 -
Please stop.Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
Because..
A: Crap food is more calorie dense
B: You're more then likely to binge after due to crap food not filling you up
C: Nutritional values in processed crap junk food are of hardly any benefit to you.
To the OP. A refeed and a cheat meal are not the same. Refeed are targeted over feeding for a slight physical and mental boost. Cheat days, meals, etc are used by those who deny themselves of certain foods.
The problem with the "cheat" and "refeed" is they may mean different things to different people.
These terms are often used when carb loading after a time period of low carbs
Sometimes "cheat" just means eating whatever you want for one meal (or one day, etc).
Manipulating your carbs may help if you find your fat loss is slowing/stalling.0 -
cheat and refeed shouldn't mean different to people though..
a refeed and a cheat day are not a like0 -
This content has been removed.
-
This content has been removed.
-
I'm at my goal weight so what I do is I cheat on days I can't really control what I'm gonna have like a family get toghether, party etc. When I went on vacation I ate whatever I wanted the entire week and yes I gained a few pounds but now I have the tools to get them back off. I think instead of a whole cheat day it's better to have a cheat meal or desert trying not to go too far over your calories because you will gain some most likely. I eat sweets whenever I want them I just manage them into my calories so that I don't have to have cheat days often.
You have to do what works for you. I don't think cheat days will help you with your lose skin :{. You can however lift weights, starting out with however much you can lift and this should help you some.
Hope this helps0 -
Instead of having a cheat day every 2-3 weeks why not have a cheat meal (Starter/Main/Dessert/Drink) every 7 days?
If I had a cheat day I could easily go over 20k calories compared to a cheat meal I rarely hit 2k
Instead of having a cheat meal every 7 days why not eat stuff you love every day and call it IIFYM and be happy while still losing weight?
Because..
A: Crap food is more calorie dense
B: You're more then likely to binge after due to crap food not filling you up
C: Nutritional values in processed crap junk food are of hardly any benefit to you.
A. Even non crap food food can be high in calories.
B. Depriving yourself of things the way you say is more likely to lead to a binge than practicing moderation. No one is telling you to have pizza and ice cream all day. It's about learning to have a balance in life. Allowing yourself the room to have foods that you might consider "crap" eliminates the psychological torture so many people put themselves through which leads to failure.
C. I'm sure the crap food you speak of combined with the "good" foods lead to a well balanced day.
Maybe your issue isn't that you can't rind a balance. Maybe it's that you don't know how to practice self control.
A: Maybe but it's not that many tbh and you can eat far more filling meals with a good range of foods compared to one crap food which will still leave you hungry due to what's in it.
B: Depriving yourself teaches you self control it also breeds new habits and breaks old ones that have kept you fat in the past. The bs excuse people use to eat whatever they want as nothing to do with torture they just don't have no self control and clearly do not want to change the bad habits which have made em fat in the first place. (I've been there and done it)
C: It depends on what you class as bad foods though and it also needs to fit into you goals. But tell me why would anyone go have some chocolate after a nice clean deal just to get hit by a big sugar rush that then leads to hunger pans again as they come crashing down from the insulin spike?
As for me not finding right balance I've found it perfect and I hardly ever eat crap now and that's because I've broke the psychological barrier associated with eating crap. It's not that I don't want it either it's just that I'm far more happier eating a big plate of chicken and broccoli with a pepsi max rather than going Mcdonalds and eating a burger with fries and a coke. it's also cheaper. In fact my food bills have halved pretty much. No more spending £10-20 a day at the shop buying junk or take aways.
As for self control I have plenty of that and that's down to breaking those psychological barriers associated with junk food. I went in cold turkey on a very strict keto diet to break the habits and one of the reasons I choose the strict keto diet is because I knew for a fact it stops cravings within a few days I actually lost 21lb in a month on it, broke every bad habit I had and 4 months on I'm down 65lbs.
A. You are not understanding that I'm not saying have "crap" meals all the time. If a bro diet is what works for you by all means go ahead and do it. Doesn't affect me. I'm content with my pizza.
B. Deprivation actually teaches the exact opposite off teaching self control. It's extremism. Many do that and put the weight right back on because they never teach themselves food selection, moderation. Then life happens.
So you're saying you will do keto for the rest of your life? What's your plan for re incorporating carbs into your life if and when you choose to?
This guy can explain it much better than I will bother to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6H2edyPLU8 Lane Norton IIFYM vs Clean eating
Maybe it's the way you put it across as in it sounded to me like 'Eat crap all the time it don't matter'
I don't agree with B at all because I've been there and done it many times and I failed because I had no self control, I want a quick fix, I could not be arsed to read up on info, I wanted to be spoon fed and told what to do. I was a thinker not a doer.
No one says these people have to deprive themselves of anything, they just have to work to a reward. They have to get self control and they have to go out and do it. I don't care what anyone says I've been fat I know the bull**** excuses I've used them loads of times in the past.
I still maintain it's a complete lifestyle change and breaking bad habits will be the main cause of anyone's success on here.
I'm not on Keto anymore. I added carbs back a few weeks ago. I just added them back slowly. If I want to go out and eat Pizza I will but I really don't crave that kind of food anymore because I've changed my habits for the better. Enjoy your pizza 0
Categories
- All Categories
- 1.4M Health, Wellness and Goals
- 393.6K Introduce Yourself
- 43.8K Getting Started
- 260.3K Health and Weight Loss
- 175.9K Food and Nutrition
- 47.5K Recipes
- 232.5K Fitness and Exercise
- 431 Sleep, Mindfulness and Overall Wellness
- 6.5K Goal: Maintaining Weight
- 8.6K Goal: Gaining Weight and Body Building
- 153K Motivation and Support
- 8K Challenges
- 1.3K Debate Club
- 96.3K Chit-Chat
- 2.5K Fun and Games
- 3.8K MyFitnessPal Information
- 24 News and Announcements
- 1.1K Feature Suggestions and Ideas
- 2.6K MyFitnessPal Tech Support Questions