Water fasting has anyone tried it?
pinkpiggy02
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I'm looking into changing up my diet. I recently cut out process food sugars salt breads and red meat. I eat baked chicken breast or fish. But lately the chicken just hasn't been so appetizing and I'm looking into going vegetarian or vegan. I still struggle with bread, chocolate, and sweet cravings. And I noticed if i give in to junk food just a little the next few days I just crave even worse foods like fried fast food, chips, soda, and bread. I also get headaches and become grouchy especially if i ate processed food. I really want to control my cravings so i started looking into cleanses and fasting. I notice when i cut out processed foods my body really reacted positively. I'm looking into water fasting and reading that it helps you with will power and mind over matter. People also talk about how it can be a spiritual experience. So Im asking for advice or if anyone has tried this? And if so what was the experience like? Do you have to prepare yourself before you start a water fast with some kind of other fast or cleans? I feel like a water fast is something i need to detox my body from all of the unnatural crap that could still be residing in my body also to help me with mental control about food. I have noticed that going on a short walk or drinking water when i have cravings helps but not all the time. Any advice would be great?
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All the unnatural crap in your body is a mental image. In reality, it's all natural.
If you're seeking spiritual experience, that's not the place for guidance.
For weight loss, water fasting does not do anything. If you have cravings all the time, you can be just hungry. Eat at a deficit, but not too little, and exercise, but don't overtrain.
Also, search function works here just fine, you should try it.0 -
I recommend doing some research, there are also lots of people posting their progress on youtube. Here are two links that might be of interest.
http://www.gaianstudies.org/articles4.htm
http://www.howtofast.net/
What I can tell you from my own experience are things that I learned help me, they might not work for you. Before starting quite things like coffee, smoking and any other bad habits a few weeks in advance. Then you can get over that first. Empty the fridge, kitchen from foods. The first 3 -4 days are difficult, I avoid social gatherings as it's too much hassle explaining why one does not eat to people who like to judge but have no real knowledge. On the 3rd or 4th day I do the salt water cleanse thing. I never did 30 or 40 days, normally 12 - 15 days feels right for me. After day 10 I notice that I have sharper sight, better hearing and I can smell things from a distance. Once complete one needs to phase back in foods carefully, preferably low or no carb natural foods. Don't go to a fast food joint the day you finish!. While you will probably loose weight, after it your body may be more efficient so you'll eat less and adsorb the same amount of nutrients. Many people regain the weight right after it by going back to the same habits they had before. Hope this helps, and good luck. There are lots of good books out there, check out Ketosis articles on the web.
Your body doesn't become more efficient, your metabolism is slowing down......:grumble:
Cleanses/fasts are useless and probably do more harm than good. Your body needs food to survive.0 -
It's a "spiritual experience" because starving yourself will make you hallucinate eventually.0
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I'm looking into changing up my diet. I recently cut out process food sugars salt breads and red meat. I eat baked chicken breast or fish. But lately the chicken just hasn't been so appetizing and I'm looking into going vegetarian or vegan. I still struggle with bread, chocolate, and sweet cravings. And I noticed if i give in to junk food just a little the next few days I just crave even worse foods like fried fast food, chips, soda, and bread. I also get headaches and become grouchy especially if i ate processed food. I really want to control my cravings so i started looking into cleanses and fasting. I notice when i cut out processed foods my body really reacted positively. I'm looking into water fasting and reading that it helps you with will power and mind over matter. People also talk about how it can be a spiritual experience. So Im asking for advice or if anyone has tried this? And if so what was the experience like? Do you have to prepare yourself before you start a water fast with some kind of other fast or cleans? I feel like a water fast is something i need to detox my body from all of the unnatural crap that could still be residing in my body also to help me with mental control about food. I have noticed that going on a short walk or drinking water when i have cravings helps but not all the time. Any advice would be great?
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/821828-detoxes-and-cleanses
2. Have you considered incorporating the foods you enjoy into your life, so you can make it a lifestyle change, not a restrictive diet that is making you have cravings all the time? I have not cut out anything and I still lose weight. 121lbs to date and I eat ice cream and processed food every day.0 -
It's a "spiritual experience" because starving yourself will make you hallucinate eventually.
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It's a "spiritual experience" because starving yourself will make you hallucinate eventually.
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Popcorn ready.
And if you actually want legitimate information and science, don't look at any website titled 'Gaian studies' that is the opposite of science.0 -
I recommend doing some research, there are also lots of people posting their progress on youtube. Here are two links that might be of interest.
http://www.gaianstudies.org/articles4.htm
http://www.howtofast.net/
What I can tell you from my own experience are things that I learned help me, they might not work for you. Before starting quite things like coffee, smoking and any other bad habits a few weeks in advance. Then you can get over that first. Empty the fridge, kitchen from foods. The first 3 -4 days are difficult, I avoid social gatherings as it's too much hassle explaining why one does not eat to people who like to judge but have no real knowledge. On the 3rd or 4th day I do the salt water cleanse thing. I never did 30 or 40 days, normally 12 - 15 days feels right for me. After day 10 I notice that I have sharper sight, better hearing and I can smell things from a distance. Once complete one needs to phase back in foods carefully, preferably low or no carb natural foods. Don't go to a fast food joint the day you finish!. While you will probably loose weight, after it your body may be more efficient so you'll eat less and adsorb the same amount of nutrients. Many people regain the weight right after it by going back to the same habits they had before. Hope this helps, and good luck. There are lots of good books out there, check out Ketosis articles on the web.
Your body doesn't become more efficient, your metabolism is slowing down......:grumble:
Cleanses/fasts are useless and probably do more harm than good. Your body needs food to survive.
And sharper sight, better hearing and smelling things from a distance.
Nope.
Starving yourself doesnt make you Wolverine.
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So basically you are going to starve yourself of food and just drink water?:huh: For how long? What happens when you start to eat again? I am intrigued...0
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I have done a water fast for spiritual and religious reasons...I wouldn't really recommend as a viable weight loss/dietary approach. Yes, I did lose a few Lbs...but they came right back when I started eating food...again, I wasn't doing it for the purpose of diet. It was also hell, and only 3 days...and I was incredibly weak and emotionally and mentally drained afterwards.
How about just eating more nutrient dense whole foods and getting plenty of fluids...seems to work for lots of folks.0 -
cravings for carbohydrates (i.e. sweet foods or carbs generally), fats (including "junk" food) or protein (including fast food that's high in protein like burgers) is not a problem that you have to fix with "cleanses" or other rubbish. It's a normal, healthy survival response to eating too little (either too little overall, or too little of any particular nutrient, especially the macronutrients). Millions of years of natural selection in favour of individuals who don't starve to death has led to our bodies having a whole arsenal of ways to survive food shortages. Cravings and obsessing about food is one such weapon in this arsenal.
The solution to it is to feed your body properly. Water fasting or any other kind of restriction is only going to make the cravings etc worse. It's not an addiction, you can't go cold turkey from nutrients that your body needs to function properly. There is no "detox" from being a member of the animal kingdom and needing to eat foods to feed your body.0 -
I watched this for way toooo long.
Anywho... carry on.
Don't do the water only thing, there is no magic shazam pow thing to making cravings go away, you just have to work with yourself and you have to realize that when you do start eating, which you DO plan on doing right?, the weight will come back because, well, solids.0 -
First of all, bread is not junk food. Especially whole grain bread. Carbs are not evil. Nor is meat. Or fat. Or sugar. (Or sodium, but I hate to admit that out loud for my own sanity.) Secondly, cleanses and fasts don't work. You should chuck the junk science before you chuck the junk food. It has more substance than these fads you're talking about.0
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There is no "detox" from being a member of the animal kingdom and needing to eat foods to feed your body.
Can we get this on a t-shirt? I want this on a t-shirt.0 -
I agree.0
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Just here for the comments!
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Water fast, dafuq?0
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It's a "spiritual experience" because starving yourself will make you hallucinate eventually.
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I tried a water fast once. I was miserable. It was years ago, before I went back to school to study nutrition. At the time I was buying into the idea of "clean eating" and detox diets. I subjected my body to a lot of really rigorous, unneccessary procedures like extended fasts, colonics, nasal flossing (Google it! It's horrible) and induced vomiting. I did all of this under the direction of my yoga instructor at the time, who was really hardcore and was suffering from her own eating disorder.
Water fasts and the ilk are unnecessary at best and possibly quite dangerous. I won't repeat what's already been said about them in this thread, but feel free to message me if you would like more information or want to talk. I can help.0 -
I have a pretty good idea where this thread is going...
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It's very effective if you're protesting British colonialism in India.0
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Do you have to prepare yourself before you start a water fast with some kind of other fast or cleans?
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Do you have to prepare yourself before you start a water fast with some kind of other fast or cleans?0
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I posted this on another thread on liquid diets, but to say again: I will never again voluntarily go on a liquid/no solid diet of any sort after the experiences I had after surgery. No energy, hair and nail loss, gastrointestinal issues, etc. I got through it with the help of a Morphine drip and Vicodin, because at least I could sleep through how bad I felt.
Now, as for the junk food I can totally relate. So, I set out to specifically find a way to eat that is something I can do for the rest of my life. I still eat chips and bread and chocolate, just a lot less and of higher quality. I haven't given up a thing, just learned moderation. My last physical was good and my already normal blood tests were even better than last year. My cholesterol is high, but its because my "good" cholesterol is so high it pushes up the overall number. All of which indicates that my internal organs responsible for cleansing crap out of my body are working just as designed. And, I've lost 65 pounds this way (look around this site, there are people here that have lost literally hundreds without going to any sort of extreme).0 -
I recommend doing some research, there are also lots of people posting their progress on youtube. Here are two links that might be of interest.
http://www.gaianstudies.org/articles4.htm
http://www.howtofast.net/
What I can tell you from my own experience are things that I learned help me, they might not work for you. Before starting quite things like coffee, smoking and any other bad habits a few weeks in advance. Then you can get over that first. Empty the fridge, kitchen from foods. The first 3 -4 days are difficult, I avoid social gatherings as it's too much hassle explaining why one does not eat to people who like to judge but have no real knowledge. On the 3rd or 4th day I do the salt water cleanse thing. I never did 30 or 40 days, normally 12 - 15 days feels right for me. After day 10 I notice that I have sharper sight, better hearing and I can smell things from a distance. Once complete one needs to phase back in foods carefully, preferably low or no carb natural foods. Don't go to a fast food joint the day you finish!. While you will probably loose weight, after it your body may be more efficient so you'll eat less and adsorb the same amount of nutrients. Many people regain the weight right after it by going back to the same habits they had before. Hope this helps, and good luck. There are lots of good books out there, check out Ketosis articles on the web.
No real knowledge, like scientific evidence to support such fasting?
It is the very definition of charlatanism and it's reckless.0 -
NO
do this instead
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
Oh and get over the good food / bad food nonsense, all things in moderation.0 -
I'm looking into changing up my diet. I recently cut out process food sugars salt breads and red meat. I eat baked chicken breast or fish. But lately the chicken just hasn't been so appetizing and I'm looking into going vegetarian or vegan. I still struggle with bread, chocolate, and sweet cravings. And I noticed if i give in to junk food just a little the next few days I just crave even worse foods like fried fast food, chips, soda, and bread. I also get headaches and become grouchy especially if i ate processed food. I really want to control my cravings so i started looking into cleanses and fasting. I notice when i cut out processed foods my body really reacted positively. I'm looking into water fasting and reading that it helps you with will power and mind over matter. People also talk about how it can be a spiritual experience. So Im asking for advice or if anyone has tried this? And if so what was the experience like? Do you have to prepare yourself before you start a water fast with some kind of other fast or cleans? I feel like a water fast is something i need to detox my body from all of the unnatural crap that could still be residing in my body also to help me with mental control about food. I have noticed that going on a short walk or drinking water when i have cravings helps but not all the time. Any advice would be great?
I wouldn't do the water fast, but what I would do is read the somersize old school books regarding sugar. how to quit it specifically. i found those ideas to ring true and it sounds like you might as well.
that's if you are bent on quitting sugar though. it's really not necessary unless you are a diabetic. if you truly feel you must eliminate foods to lose weight why not make a list of all the foods you absolutely hate. just can't stand the taste of. then eat all the other foods in moderation and count your calories. if you PM me the list of foods you decided NOT to eat I will come up with a fancy new name for your diet and you can be well on your way to writing the next food eliminating diet book.0
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