How to inc. carbs but not sugar

nancyjm1022
nancyjm1022 Posts: 1
edited November 2023 in Getting Started
How can I inc. carbs and calories but not increase sugars?

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  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    How can I inc. carbs and calories but not increase sugars?

    You can't, carbs are sugars
  • strick1982
    strick1982 Posts: 75 Member
    How can I inc. carbs and calories but not increase sugars?

    You can't, carbs are sugars

    Yup, what he said. Are you asking about "added" sugars?
  • cheryl3660
    cheryl3660 Posts: 182 Member
    A common misconception is that sugars and carbs are different things. They are not. Even if you are eating a carb from say, corn, and not white sugar, your body will process that corn into glucose, the same way it will process white table sugar into glucose and whole wheat toast into glucose.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    You can't, carbs are sugars

    actually not all carbs are sugar.
    But sugar is a specific Type of carb.

    There are 3 types of carbohydrates:
    1- Fiber. Great stuff ! Soluble & insoluble.
    2- Starch. Good stuff (complex carbs)- in veggies, bieans, lentils, peas, grains.
    3- Sugar. The one to keep to a minumum. Natural such in milk & fruit. Added, such as table sugar or corn syrup.

    Per Diabetes. org site :
    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/carbohydrates.html


    And some more info at.....

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/types-carbohydrates-turn-sugar-3322.html

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/fiber-health-benefits-11/insoluble-soluble-fiber

    .
  • cheryl3660
    cheryl3660 Posts: 182 Member
    You can't, carbs are sugars

    actually not all carbs are sugar.
    But sugar is a specific Type of carb.

    There are 3 types of carbohydrates:
    1- Fiber. Great stuff ! Soluble & insoluble.
    2- Starch. Good stuff (complex carbs)- in veggies, bieans, lentils, peas, grains.
    3- Sugar. The one to keep to a minumum. Natural such in milk & fruit. Added, such as table sugar or corn syrup.

    Per Diabetes. org site :
    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/carbohydrates.html


    And some more info at.....

    http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/types-carbohydrates-turn-sugar-3322.html

    http://www.webmd.com/diet/fiber-health-benefits-11/insoluble-soluble-fiber

    .

    Yes! How can we forget the fiber! The only good carb in my opinion. For some of us, especially those of us with Type 2 Diabetes and other diseases and problems associated with carb absorbtion, Starch is not "good stuff." It doesn't matter how complex your carb, in the end your body will convert it to sugar in order to use it. It might take longer, but in the end it's all the same.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member

    Yes! How can we forget the fiber! The only good carb in my opinion. For some of us, especially those of us with Type 2 Diabetes and other diseases and problems associated with carb absorbtion, Starch is not "good stuff." It doesn't matter how complex your carb, in the end your body will convert it to sugar in order to use it. It might take longer, but in the end it's all the same.


    mmm... I think of starch as "good' (opposed to "Great" like the fiber). Fruits & veggies are made up MOSTLY of starch & water. have some very very nutritional stuff in them !! vitamins, minerals, Phytochemicals, etc.

    If you consume fruits & veggies that have alot of fiber in them, the starch convert slower than if you didn't have the fiber. so with the fiber included, you can reap more the nutritional value more, and doesn't run as much havoc with blood sugar).

    Not all carbs are equal :
    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/grains-and-starchy-vegetables.html

    I understand that diabetics have to watch their carbs, sugars, starches, but aren't they still encouraged to consume some fruits & veggies. or are the fruits and veggies considered 'bad', and they should only consume protein and fat ?
  • DawnOBRN
    DawnOBRN Posts: 290 Member
    Are you worried about how carbs or sugar will affect your blood sugar?
    The ADA has great info on gylcemic index of carbs and how they affect your blood sugar

    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/glycemic-index-and-diabetes.html
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    Are you worried about how carbs or sugar will affect your blood sugar?
    The ADA has great info on gylcemic index of carbs and how they affect your blood sugar

    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/glycemic-index-and-diabetes.html

    thanks for the link. great stuff.
  • myfbil
    myfbil Posts: 31 Member
    For my daily recommended values, I am usually UNDER for carbs and OVER for sugar. I don't understand this at all. I always thought carbs converted to sugar so why two categories - carbs & sugar. How can one be under and one over?
  • keflexxxx
    keflexxxx Posts: 25 Member
    sugar is a sub-classification of carbohydrates, the overarching macronutrient category. that's why there's two targets; all sugars are carbs but not all carbs are sugars.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    For my daily recommended values, I am usually UNDER for carbs and OVER for sugar. I don't understand this at all. I always thought carbs converted to sugar so why two categories - carbs & sugar. How can one be under and one over?

    Sugar is only ONE type of carb. There are 2 other types of carb.
    Sounds like you need to get more Fiber and more starch, and less sugar.

    Per my previous post today:
    There are 3 types of carbohydrates:
    1- Fiber. Great stuff ! Soluble & insoluble.
    2- Starch. Good stuff (complex carbs)- in veggies, bieans, lentils, peas, grains.
    3- Sugar. The one to keep to a minumum. Natural such in milk & fruit. Added, such as table sugar or corn syrup.

    Per Diabetes.org site :
    http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/what-can-i-eat/carbohydrates.html
  • MityMax96
    MityMax96 Posts: 5,778 Member
    Stay away from the simple/processed sugars/carbs like candy bars and sweets.

    Also remember for every 1 gr of fiber, that cancels out 1 gr of carbs......
    So I like eating Quest protein bars, they have 21 grams of carbs, but have 17 grams of fiber, so net carbs is ~4 gr

    So for my carb intake I do veggies, swt potatoes, and white rice.

    Stay away from sodas, candy bars, jelly beans, etc...
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member

    Also remember for every 1 gr of fiber, that cancels out 1 gr of carbs......
    So I like eating Quest protein bars, they have 21 grams of carbs, but have 17 grams of fiber, so net carbs is ~4 gr


    Carbs break down into 3 catagories.
    fiber + sugar + starch
    = TOTAL carbs.

    You mentioned Quest has 21 carbs. And 17 fiber. That leaves +4 unaccounted for.

    If your Quest label doesn't list any sugar (which would be unusual), then the missing 4 must be starch (which isn't required on the label)

    sorry, but your quest does not have a "minus net carb".

    but gotta say 17 grams fiber is great !!

    See last paragraph:
    http://thescienceofeating.com/carbohydrates/carbohydrates-fiber/
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    How can I inc. carbs and calories but not increase sugars?

    You can't, carbs are sugars

    Yup, what he said. Are you asking about "added" sugars?

    no, no, no.
    Carbs are not a type of sugar.
    It's the other way around.
    SUGAR is a Type of CARB.
    Try to consume less sugar (some people call it simple carbs)

    Try to consume more Fiber, which is a type of Carb.
    or consume more starch (some people call it complex carbs)
  • Deborah100660
    Deborah100660 Posts: 45 Member
    Simply put carbohydrates convert into sugar in your body to provide energy. What you want to do is to avoid complex carbohydrates such as processed breads, table sugar, corn syrup, and honey or limit the amounts. Look up and read about the glycemic index on the internet. The carbohydrates you want to consume contain simple sugar and fiber which helps to keep you full and decrease your hunger. You can try to eat foods that have a low glycemic index. My diet strategy is to indulge in my favorite treats, but only once per month.
  • Stage14
    Stage14 Posts: 1,046 Member
    I believe the poster meant less than 4 carbs, not minus 4 carbs. But that math still doesn't add up because a Quest bar has right at 4 net carbs.

    And those are NET carbs, not total carbs which is an important distinction. Net carbs are what are generally counted by Type 2 Diabetics because that is what affects the blood sugar most directly. But they do still have to watch total carb intake, and the trade off is per food or meal. You can't eat a candy bar in the afternoon and then drink a glass of Medimucil before bed and expect the fiber from one to cancel out the sugar in the other.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    What you want to do is to avoid complex carbohydrates such as processed breads, table sugar, corn syrup, and honey or limit the amounts.


    table sugar, corn syrup, honey are Not COMPLEX CARBS.
    They are SIMPLE carbs.
  • Debbie_Ferr
    Debbie_Ferr Posts: 582 Member
    The carbohydrates you want to consume contain simple sugar and fiber which helps to keep you full and decrease your hunger.

    I think you meant to say COMPLEX carbs, not simple sugars.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    How can I inc. carbs and calories but not increase sugars?

    You can't, carbs are sugars

    Yup, what he said. Are you asking about "added" sugars?

    no, no, no.
    Carbs are not a type of sugar.
    It's the other way around.
    SUGAR is a Type of CARB.
    Try to consume less sugar (some people call it simple carbs)

    Try to consume more Fiber, which is a type of Carb.
    or consume more starch (some people call it complex carbs)

    Saccharides are?
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