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I was doing another free app but noticed online many people were doing MFP....so I logged on today and I must say I am highly impressed. But I started off two weeks ago at 273 and I am now down to 263... I looked and saw I was really low in the net area (averaging between 700-900) after workouts. I am 5'6 and just turned 40. I am tired of being a big woman and really want to shape my body and start loving myself again.
I burn between 600-800 calories a day working out/ weight training and I would eat over the recommended (1385) on the other app so I could reach 1500... No more than 1600 (ok my birthday I did not calculate a thing....hey it was my birthday!) and I usually end up with a low net but after my tablespoon of peanut butter and apple after a workout I am not hungry. I drink nothing but water (180-220 oz a day)and I stay full.
I am confused because I keep reading....eat your net no matter what.....but even if you are full? Also, I am a firm believer in eating well but I will not lie.....I purposely add one cheat food per day that is no more than 200 calories for I think one has to be honest....but I also make sure that in calorie burning I burn that amount no matter what by the end of the day.
Why must I eat back what I work so darn hard to work off? I'm losing...and I believe a big part of the first drop was water for my sodium intake is lower ( by the way I love that part of MFP). So why in the world must I eat that back? I purposely workout at night so I won't eat much afterwards.
Though I move around throughout the day I put SEDENTARY because it gave me a lower calorie intake....so how in the WORLD does this work? Also, I am looking for good circuit recommendations to help get a great butt a get rid of my lower pooch and tone my triceps. I love squats and have seen my bottom lift....so any suggestions. 190 is the BRICK HOUSE goal.....so helpppppp! LOL
I burn between 600-800 calories a day working out/ weight training and I would eat over the recommended (1385) on the other app so I could reach 1500... No more than 1600 (ok my birthday I did not calculate a thing....hey it was my birthday!) and I usually end up with a low net but after my tablespoon of peanut butter and apple after a workout I am not hungry. I drink nothing but water (180-220 oz a day)and I stay full.
I am confused because I keep reading....eat your net no matter what.....but even if you are full? Also, I am a firm believer in eating well but I will not lie.....I purposely add one cheat food per day that is no more than 200 calories for I think one has to be honest....but I also make sure that in calorie burning I burn that amount no matter what by the end of the day.
Why must I eat back what I work so darn hard to work off? I'm losing...and I believe a big part of the first drop was water for my sodium intake is lower ( by the way I love that part of MFP). So why in the world must I eat that back? I purposely workout at night so I won't eat much afterwards.
Though I move around throughout the day I put SEDENTARY because it gave me a lower calorie intake....so how in the WORLD does this work? Also, I am looking for good circuit recommendations to help get a great butt a get rid of my lower pooch and tone my triceps. I love squats and have seen my bottom lift....so any suggestions. 190 is the BRICK HOUSE goal.....so helpppppp! LOL
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Yes you are suppose to net your calorie goal, if you can't eat them all, use them the next day.
Unless you are on your feet very busy all day at your job, like a nurse, or waitress, I think Sedentary is fine.
I know it seems like less calories = more weight loss, but the problem is that it will end up being a lot of muscle, not fat, so while it seems great right now, you will eventually stall out and have a lower metabolism, which takes a really long time to repair.
The calorie goal MFP gives you already contains your calorie deficit, you don't even need to exercise to lose the weight per week that you currently have it set to. So if you do exercise you absolutely should eat those calories on top of your goal.
Also please note that MFP tends to over estimate some calorie burns such as the Elliptical and Zumba, consider eating 80% of those calories.0 -
The calorie goal MFP gives you already contains your calorie deficit, you don't even need to exercise to lose the weight per week that you currently have it set to. So if you do exercise you absolutely should eat those calories on top of your goal.
Also please note that MFP tends to over estimate some calorie burns such as the Elliptical and Zumba, consider eating 80% of those calories.
Agreed.
I know it might seem counterproductive to eat your calorie goal and your workout calories, but creating an enormous calorie deficit is not the best choice. Food is fuel, and although we all want fast results, it's important to create a healthy and sustainable process that will lead to a better lifestyle that you can continue long term.
Make sure your calorie intake is adequate for your body and your lifestyle, and eat enough to get the proper fuel and nutrition.
For reference, I'm 5'6" and 27 years old. I started in January at 235 pounds and have ALWAYS eaten back my exercise calories, which means I have consistently net around 1500 calories a day and may have eaten anywhere from 1500-1800 or more depending on my exercise for the day.0 -
I bought a polar heart rate watch......that thing better work for $100! It's the greatest investment I've purchased. Love it!!!0
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How has your journey been?0
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Also please note that MFP tends to over estimate some calorie burns such as the Elliptical and Zumba, consider eating 80% of those calories.
The MFP burns are crazy high.....I would say eat back 60%, personally.0 -
How has your journey been?
Personally, I am loving my lifestyle change!
The key is sustainability. I believe in eating as much food as possible to reach my weight loss and fitness goals. I also believe in eating a balanced and moderate diet, which means I try to eat as many whole and nutritious foods as possible to satisfy my macro goals... but my diet also includes things like pizza, cake, and beer. I love food, and I know I'm never going to stick to a restrictive diet. As long as it fits my calorie and macro goals, I'm going to eat it!
This is truly a way of eating that I can happily stick to for the rest of my life.0 -
I burn between 600-800 calories a day working out/ weight training
Just a note that a HRM won't be accurate for weight training. They are made for steady state cardio like running, brisk walking, elliptical, etc. Your HR isn't elevated enough during weight training or sustained long enough for it to be accurate and you will get elevated untrue burns.0 -
Kind of have to disagree with the HRM inaccuracy....that thing is major low when weight training like no more than 6 calories a minute.....LOL0
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Eating too little may work well for a few weeks but eventually it takes its toll either on your spirits or your actual health. Many folks on MFP (me included) have a whole lot to lose and are looking to change to an eating pattern we can sustain long term. Yes, I have days I eat well under my calories for that day but there is usuallly some kind of overeating preceding it so in the long run, I lose 1 lb a week.
So, I would say the thing to do is figure out what the proper number of calories and activity are to loose at about 1 to 2 pounds a week long term and do that. MFP's generic/default figures might not be for you. Lots of us on here can show you how to make other number choices and why.
I'd be pleased to help you make some preliminary decisions. You may well not want to do what I do but I can show you where the info is for making the choices.
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Kind of have to disagree with the HRM inaccuracy....that thing is major low when weight training like no more than 6 calories a minute.....LOL
Weight training burns virtually nothing beyond your regular burn from just existing. Weight training is meant to build and strengthen muscle which in turn will burn more calories 24/7 but I doubt it burns anywhere near 6 calories a minute.
I didn't pull the info on HRM's out of thin air. It's a known fact and supported by Polar.0 -
I need ALLLLLLLL the help I can get. I am open.....please help0
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Not being argumentative. I wore it one time during weight training. Jillian Michaels always says you don't burn calories during weight training. As long as it reads my cardio well I'm fine.0
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I was doing another free app but noticed online many people were doing MFP....so I logged on today and I must say I am highly impressed.
It's the honeymoon phase.
You'll get over it.0 -
"ya know......I feel the same way too about eating within the calorie limitations......but do you feel bad sometimes when you eat 'bad calories'?0
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"ya know......I feel the same way too about eating within the calorie limitations......but do you feel bad sometimes when you eat 'bad calories'?
there aren't "bad calories" so I don't feel bad when I have food. Also, since you're new here:
1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.
pretty much that.
...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:
the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.
Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.
I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.
Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.
Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
Take the tips, links, and info above and make the cart more manageable.0 -
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Thanks. I'll be honest......1200 sounds ridiculous to 'me'. I never understood the NET but I get it now. I took this breathing test to help me figure out my RMR and I believe it's pretty accurate. I am going to stay around 1400 NET after exercise and see how that works for me.....but never lower than 1300......I will look at your link you shared. Thanks!0
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1. I measure EVERYTHING....LOL. I didn't know how important that would be. I measure, pour, tablespoon, teaspoon, cup it and ounce it alllllll day.
2. The twinkie Vodka diet was funny.....nasty combo.....but funny.
3. I love my polar HRM.....the chest strap can be irritating at times but I love that thing with all my heart. I love it! It really helps me.
4. Thanks for the don't over do it with the cardio.....I swear I was killing myself and it wasn't fun.....
5. PATIENCE.....it didn't take a day to put it on and it will not take a day to get it off.
6. I am going to base things on how my clothes fit. I am going to measure. I will not become a slave to the scale. I was going crazy the first few weeks on that thing 4-5 times a day.....that is for the birds.
7. I will eat in portions and healthy simply because I need to but I will have my cake.....even it I do weigh only two ounces of it....LOL. Two ounces it will be.
8. Not falling for everything I read.....I have to do what fits 'me'.
9. Thanks for everything you wrote0
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