IHOP Buttermilk Pancakes

I'm going to IHOP tomorrow for breakfast and I checked the nutritional info here: http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx and it says that 3 buttermilk pancakes are 470 calories. However, I'm not sure if this calorie amount includes the butter or not that comes on top of the pancakes. I called customer service and asked them but I never got a definitive answer. Two people said it does and two people said it does not. I called the IHOP location by me and they said it does not, but I'm confused at this point. Depending on who makes the pancake, there can be a good amount of butter on top of them. I know it's all an estimate, but I'd rather not be off by a couple hundred cals if I can help it. Does anyone here know this?
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  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I'm an IHOP addict. I'm there just about every other week. It's really my biggest downfall, lol. On their own nutrition guide, it says that items like Omelettes do not include other things like toast, pancakes, or whatever. I've always extended this to think that the pancake entry does not include syrup. Also, on the bottom of that list is a section devoted to their syrups. So, to me, that means that they are calculated separately. I always remove the butter, because I'm just not a fan of butter at all. And you can ask for a sugar-free syrup,but it isn't really very yummy :-(


    By the way, I've found that the 2x2x2 breakfast may be the most bang for the buck, lol.


    http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    How exciting. I've been on MFP for almost a year, and I finally get to be the person with the answer to a question. Yay, IHOP!
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    I'm an IHOP addict. I'm there just about every other week. It's really my biggest downfall, lol. On their own nutrition guide, it says that items like Omelettes do not include other things like toast, pancakes, or whatever. I've always extended this to think that the pancake entry does not include syrup. Also, on the bottom of that list is a section devoted to their syrups. So, to me, that means that they are calculated separately. I always remove the butter, because I'm just not a fan of butter at all. And you can ask for a sugar-free syrup,but it isn't really very yummy :-(


    By the way, I've found that the 2x2x2 breakfast may be the most bang for the buck, lol.


    http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx

    Yes, finally! Someone else who loves IHOP just as much as I do! Hah. I know the pancakes do not include the syrup, but I'm so confused on the butter. The Belgium waffle is listed at 400cals and says it includes the butter, but the pancakes do not specify. So do you think the butter is not included in the 470 calorie count then?

    I'm not a fan of sugar-free syrup, but I absolutely love Walden Farms pancake syrup. I always drench my pancakes in syrup, so I have 1/4 cup of real syrup and then WF pancake syrup if I need more hah. BTW, have you tried the Cinn-a-stack pancakes? They are ridiculously good, it's like continuously eating the center of a cinnamon roll! Thanks for the tip about the 2x2x2 breakfast, I have a coupon for a free short stack so I'm most likely getting that tomorrow with some eggs and bacon.
  • StacyReneO
    StacyReneO Posts: 317 Member
    Don't know about the butter, but I know that they put pancake batter in their omelettes and scrambled eggs. So much for healthy eggs!
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    I'm an IHOP addict. I'm there just about every other week. It's really my biggest downfall, lol. On their own nutrition guide, it says that items like Omelettes do not include other things like toast, pancakes, or whatever. I've always extended this to think that the pancake entry does not include syrup. Also, on the bottom of that list is a section devoted to their syrups. So, to me, that means that they are calculated separately. I always remove the butter, because I'm just not a fan of butter at all. And you can ask for a sugar-free syrup,but it isn't really very yummy :-(


    By the way, I've found that the 2x2x2 breakfast may be the most bang for the buck, lol.


    http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx

    What's in the 2x2x2 breakfast?
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Don't know about the butter, but I know that they put pancake batter in their omelettes and scrambled eggs. So much for healthy eggs!

    I know that, that's why I get sunny-side up eggs! I couldn't believe it when I first learned about that, but it doesn't matter since I love runny yolks.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I'm an IHOP addict. I'm there just about every other week. It's really my biggest downfall, lol. On their own nutrition guide, it says that items like Omelettes do not include other things like toast, pancakes, or whatever. I've always extended this to think that the pancake entry does not include syrup. Also, on the bottom of that list is a section devoted to their syrups. So, to me, that means that they are calculated separately. I always remove the butter, because I'm just not a fan of butter at all. And you can ask for a sugar-free syrup,but it isn't really very yummy :-(


    By the way, I've found that the 2x2x2 breakfast may be the most bang for the buck, lol.


    http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx

    What's in the 2x2x2 breakfast?

    2 eggs, any style. 2 pieces of meat (bacon or sausage). 2 pancakes. For me, it's a little bit of everything I want without going overboard. However, it isn't decadent and sinful so sometimes it's hard to remember to push myself in that direction.
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    Don't know about the butter, but I know that they put pancake batter in their omelettes and scrambled eggs. So much for healthy eggs!


    That must be why the Garden Omelet is always so much higher in calories and carbs than I expect it to be! Holy wow! No more of that for me! If I want pancake batter, I'm going for an actual pancake!
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    I'm an IHOP addict. I'm there just about every other week. It's really my biggest downfall, lol. On their own nutrition guide, it says that items like Omelettes do not include other things like toast, pancakes, or whatever. I've always extended this to think that the pancake entry does not include syrup. Also, on the bottom of that list is a section devoted to their syrups. So, to me, that means that they are calculated separately. I always remove the butter, because I'm just not a fan of butter at all. And you can ask for a sugar-free syrup,but it isn't really very yummy :-(


    By the way, I've found that the 2x2x2 breakfast may be the most bang for the buck, lol.


    http://www.ihop.com/-/media/ihop/PDFs/nutritionalinformation.ashx

    Yes, finally! Someone else who loves IHOP just as much as I do! Hah. I know the pancakes do not include the syrup, but I'm so confused on the butter. The Belgium waffle is listed at 400cals and says it includes the butter, but the pancakes do not specify. So do you think the butter is not included in the 470 calorie count then?

    I'm not a fan of sugar-free syrup, but I absolutely love Walden Farms pancake syrup. I always drench my pancakes in syrup, so I have 1/4 cup of real syrup and then WF pancake syrup if I need more hah. BTW, have you tried the Cinn-a-stack pancakes? They are ridiculously good, it's like continuously eating the center of a cinnamon roll! Thanks for the tip about the 2x2x2 breakfast, I have a coupon for a free short stack so I'm most likely getting that tomorrow with some eggs and bacon.



    Hmmmm, I have no idea about the butter. It's served *on* the pancake... so it might be included, since the calorie count should be for the dish as served. But it's not an ingredient in the pancake, it's just plopped on the top... so it might not be considered in the count.

    Way too confusing. I wonder, on the site that has the nutrition menu, is there a way to contact anyone?
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Now totally craving their chocolate chip pancakes thanks to this thread! Are they good?
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Hmmmm, I have no idea about the butter. It's served *on* the pancake... so it might be included, since the calorie count should be for the dish as served. But it's not an ingredient in the pancake, it's just plopped on the top... so it might not be considered in the count.

    Way too confusing. I wonder, on the site that has the nutrition menu, is there a way to contact anyone?

    It is confusing. I called their customer service number on the IHOP website and there is not a consensus. I've gotten three people tell me the butter is included in the 470 calories because the nutritional info reflects the dish "as served," but then two other people said that it does not include butter. I then called the IHOP that I am going to and the woman who answered the phone said the butter does not count. I just called again and a guy said it does, so I'm baffled lol. I think I may just use half the butter that comes with it and not worry about it, probably like 60-70 cals in the grand scheme of things. I'm bulking too, so it's not like I'm trying to limit cals, I just have to watch how much fat I consume in a meal because I suffer from a stomach disease and too much fat wrecks my stomach. Hence why I'm wondering about the butter being included.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Now totally craving their chocolate chip pancakes thanks to this thread! Are they good?

    I have not had the chocolate chip pancakes, although they do look good. I'm more of a blueberry pancake guy, but I don't think I would like IHOP's blueberry pancakes because it seems like they drown the pancakes in the blueberry compote. Might get it on the side if I decide to try it.
  • Why would anyone eat at IHOP when there are many other, better restaurants to go to. I don't care where you live, there just are.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Why would anyone eat at IHOP when there are many other, better restaurants to go to. I don't care where you live, there just are.

    Because I enjoy eating the pancakes there, who really cares where it is? I also love Outback because they make a really good prime rib. Yea I go to nice restaurants too, but I honestly enjoy the pancakes there and will continue to go there. IHOP also has really great customer service, something that surprised me. Thanks for contributing absolutely nothing to this thread.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Just don't eat there all the time. It's very difficult to accurate nutritional information from restaurants because they will never be as careful as you can be at home with a food scale.

    IHOP also happens to make some rather delicious whole grain pancakes. For some reason, I like them better than the buttermilk ones. Personal taste preferences . . .

    Pro tip: get the real bacon. You don't save many calories with the turkey bacon.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Just don't eat there all the time. It's very difficult to accurate nutritional information from restaurants because they will never be as careful as you can be at home with a food scale.

    IHOP also happens to make some rather delicious whole grain pancakes. For some reason, I like them better than the buttermilk ones. Personal taste preferences . . .

    Pro tip: get the real bacon. You don't save many calories with the turkey bacon.

    Actually, fast food restaurants are very accurate with their portions and calories because they make everything uniform so it can be made quickly and be reproduced to taste the same way across all stores. The only variable here is the amount of butter, but other than that it's pretty accurate. It even beats things you buy from a store because not only can the manufacturer round up/down the macros, but there could also be fattier cuts of meat in the package, throwing off your calorie amount despite weighing and measuring.

    I've never tried their whole grain pancakes, not a fan of whole grain since I don't eat grains much at all and whole grains mess up my stomach. I always get real bacon, turkey bacon is a sin to the culinary world.
  • BeachIron
    BeachIron Posts: 6,490 Member
    Just don't eat there all the time. It's very difficult to accurate nutritional information from restaurants because they will never be as careful as you can be at home with a food scale.

    IHOP also happens to make some rather delicious whole grain pancakes. For some reason, I like them better than the buttermilk ones. Personal taste preferences . . .

    Pro tip: get the real bacon. You don't save many calories with the turkey bacon.

    Actually, fast food restaurants are very accurate with their portions and calories because they make everything uniform so it can be made quickly and be reproduced to taste the same way across all stores. The only variable here is the amount of butter, but other than that it's pretty accurate. It even beats things you buy from a store because not only can the manufacturer round up/down the macros, but there could also be fattier cuts of meat in the package, throwing off your calorie amount despite weighing and measuring.

    I've never tried their whole grain pancakes, not a fan of whole grain since I don't eat grains much at all and whole grains mess up my stomach. I always get real bacon, turkey bacon is a sin to the culinary world.

    Good luck with all your fitness endeavors. :flowerforyou:
  • NaomiJFoster
    NaomiJFoster Posts: 1,450 Member
    The whole grain pancakes also have nuts in them. Pancakes should not crunch. They're good, but not as good as I wish they were.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    Good luck with all your fitness endeavors. :flowerforyou:

    I do agree that using a food scale at home is the best, and I do that when I can, but I like to treat myself to a good meal out. Part of the fitness lifestyle is being able to go out to eat with people and not sweat it, so I can do that without worrying about it (for the most part heh). I actually have to force myself to eat enough to gain weight, and bulking sucks, I'd much rather be cutting but can't. Thanks and good luck to yourself as well!
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    The whole grain pancakes also have nuts in them. Pancakes should not crunch. They're good, but not as good as I wish they were.

    Nuts? not for me then, I do not digest nuts well; thanks for the heads up. Thanks for all your help Naomi, I appreciate it! IHOP rules, who cares about the naysayers hah.
  • RetiredAndLovingIt
    RetiredAndLovingIt Posts: 1,395 Member
    I usually trade the sausage or bacon in the 2x2x2 for ham. It comes in 2 little slices & I'm sure less fat than the other 2 choices.
  • I haven't eaten IHOP in awhile but I have big breakfast once a week for Sundays dinner. My kid and I love pancakes, bacon , and eggs but he likes mine the best. I even think I do a better job making breakfast.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    I haven't eaten IHOP in awhile but I have big breakfast once a week for Sundays dinner. My kid and I love pancakes, bacon , and eggs but he likes mine the best. I even think I do a better job making breakfast.

    If I could make pancakes better than IHOP does I'd be all over them and not worry about going there, but unfortunately I cannot. I can make pretty good ones from oat flour, 2 egg whites, a banana, and some blueberries, but not close to IHOPs. Nice job with the cooking, home cooking is always better for you. How do you make your pancakes? Do you use a pre-made mix or make your own?
  • I just use a pre-mix, It is all about the water amount and how it flows on the griddle. I only use cast iron so that might be a reason also. I tried on an electric one and they never turn out right. It has taken me some time to learn how to get the batter right and the temp of the griddle perfect. I cook the bacon first to get the temp right. Then scrape off the leavens and grease and a simple dry paper towel wipe down. Then flow the pancake batter and wait till the bubbles are just right and flip. My griddle takes up two burners and I only cook 2 cakes at a time right over the flame. My griddle is so well seasoned that I cook the eggs last and do not need any oil thru the whole cooking process.
  • All this talk of pancakes make me happy tomorrow is Big Breakfast Day.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    I just use a pre-mix, It is all about the water amount and how it flows on the griddle. I only use cast iron so that might be a reason also. I tried on an electric one and they never turn out right. It has taken me some time to learn how to get the batter right and the temp of the griddle perfect. I cook the bacon first to get the temp right. Then scrape off the leavens and grease and a simple dry paper towel wipe down. Then flow the pancake batter and wait till the bubbles are just right and flip. My griddle takes up two burners and I only cook 2 cakes at a time right over the flame. My griddle is so well seasoned that I cook the eggs last and do not need any oil thru the whole cooking process.

    Which pre-mix do you use? I've tried Aunt Jemima's complete buttermilk mix and it is good, but like you said it depends on the amount of water. I have not tried making it in a cast iron pan, so I may try that some time and see how it goes.
  • I am using Hungry Jack Buttermilk complete. If you have never used cast or are not used to using it be careful. I find it gets hot fast and is hard to get it to cool. Go with a lower temp and work your way up. I also find cast works better with gas. If I had a electric stove I would use my Colman camp stove to make my pancakes. Yes I love pancakes and my son thinks mine are the best.
  • MyJourney1960
    MyJourney1960 Posts: 1,133 Member
    I also make my own - i find that not overbeating and yes letting the batter sit in the fridge overnight really help. also - let the griddle/pan get really hot but when you start to cook them, lower the flame to medium

    (I use this recipe as my base, http://www.joyofbaking.com/breakfast/ButtermilkPancakes.html but i change things - i use some quick oats instead of flour, sometime i'll add almond meal for extra protein or i'll use spelt flour instead of AP)
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    I am using Hungry Jack Buttermilk complete. If you have never used cast or are not used to using it be careful. I find it gets hot fast and is hard to get it to cool. Go with a lower temp and work your way up. I also find cast works better with gas. If I had a electric stove I would use my Colman camp stove to make my pancakes. Yes I love pancakes and my son thinks mine are the best.

    I have never used my cast iron before so I will make sure to not let it get too hot. I only have an electric stove in my apartment, so I will see how it goes. That's cool that your son enjoys yours the best, I'm the same way with my Dad and his steaks; much rather have one of them than go out.
  • jbgolf52
    jbgolf52 Posts: 210 Member
    I also make my own - i find that not overbeating and yes letting the batter sit in the fridge overnight really help. also - let the griddle/pan get really hot but when you start to cook them, lower the flame to medium

    (I use this recipe as my base, http://www.joyofbaking.com/breakfast/ButtermilkPancakes.html but i change things - i use some quick oats instead of flour, sometime i'll add almond meal for extra protein or i'll use spelt flour instead of AP)

    Thanks for the site! I don't think letting a pre-mix sit overnight would do anything, but if I try the one out that you linked I will do so. Never heard of that technique with the pan, may have to give it a shot some time. Good thing breakfast is everyday, and sometimes for dinner as well! hah