Moderation not clean eating
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I see no shaming in that post.I will say I think clean eating makes loosing weight easier because you tend to eat fewer calories. However I don't believe in "I don't have time to eat clean". You make time for what is important. I've been a college student working two jobs, you either use it as an excuse or make time. Eating clean isn't that big of an inconvenience if you prepare yourself. Don't get me wrong, I eat processed foods as well but I never make an excuse when I do. I'm getting to the point where it is harder to loose my weight and I slacked off on my clean eating and I noticed a difference in how I felt. Processed food makes my stomach hurt and I feel like crap when I eat it.
This is what I am talking about. It is like shaming when others don't/can't want to eat clean. I am very happy you were able to find time. Some of us honestly can't.
This is part of the reason I posted this. I hate when people say oh you won't lose weight or you can always make time. Honestly in my schedule I can't. Everyday even my weekends are schedule out. I have been losing weight fine. I agree with every has different things work for them but enough with the shaming from both sides. And please don't assume people can make time. Sometimes my workout is my dance class for my arts general education credit and that's it. Sometimes my workout is at the gym on the bike studying or researching on my kindle.0 -
My daughter's school is having a fundraiser at Cold Stone Creamery tonight. Dinner will be ice-cream. :drinker: (She will have a healthier dinner with her dad beforehand, but I won't have time for anything else.)
I posted recently about my day where my 2 main meals consisted of a 9" Spicy Black Bean Pita, from the Pita Pit for lunch, a snack or two, and basically... a large Drumstick McFlurry for a late dinner. Shortly after arriving home, I had that feeling in my stomach, that I was in for a quick trip to the bathroom. Which turned into like 3 trips.
After was all said and done... I felt much lighter, and without a before and after scale reading... I figured I'd probably lost about 2 lbs. Regardless, and irregardless.... it was SO worth it. So, enjoy your ice-cream dinner.0 -
While I am a lot older than you, I, too, am on your wagon - EVERYTHING in moderation. I will not feel deprived. We each have to do what is best for us! Our life, our choice!
Totally agree. I strive to eat more fresh stuff, more vegetables, etc. But that does not mean (FOR ME) that my diet has to be 100% "clean"...that is just not realistic for me.
Aldi has a bunch of quick entrees that are supposedly more "natural" but I know they're loaded with sodium and preservatives. However, they're low calorie and delicious (sesame veggie bowl, stuffed Southwest sandwich) and as a busy woman who works full-time and has a bunch of other stuff on her plate, you better believe I'll have one for lunch or dinner a time or two each week.
I used to work with a woman whose idea of dieting meant stocking up on low cal and fat free 100 cal packs, Lean Cuisines, Vitamin Water Zero, etc...then that is all she ate. Everything from a package and most of them individual portions. Now I wouldn't like that, personally. But if it worked for her then it's not my place to say it's bad!0 -
the whole point of this topic, is about using the moderation and also how a clean eater would message me and shame me for eating processed in the context, the mentioned post to me personally felt a bit shaming. The poster, who I am sure is very lovely and did not mean anything by it, said they do not believe the excuse I don't have time. In previous posts I have said that I don't have time. To me at least, it felt that it was bit of shaming. I am not trying to make the poster look like a jerk, I promise. I just felt a little stabbed at and maybe I am just too sensitive but that is how I felt and I tell people when I feel something.
I see no shaming in that post.I will say I think clean eating makes loosing weight easier because you tend to eat fewer calories. However I don't believe in "I don't have time to eat clean". You make time for what is important. I've been a college student working two jobs, you either use it as an excuse or make time. Eating clean isn't that big of an inconvenience if you prepare yourself. Don't get me wrong, I eat processed foods as well but I never make an excuse when I do. I'm getting to the point where it is harder to loose my weight and I slacked off on my clean eating and I noticed a difference in how I felt. Processed food makes my stomach hurt and I feel like crap when I eat it.
This is what I am talking about. It is like shaming when others don't/can't want to eat clean. I am very happy you were able to find time. Some of us honestly can't.
This is part of the reason I posted this. I hate when people say oh you won't lose weight or you can always make time. Honestly in my schedule I can't. Everyday even my weekends are schedule out. I have been losing weight fine. I agree with every has different things work for them but enough with the shaming from both sides. And please don't assume people can make time. Sometimes my workout is my dance class for my arts general education credit and that's it. Sometimes my workout is at the gym on the bike studying or researching on my kindle.0 -
in....for the clean eating debate that never ends...0
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Eating clean is more for those who want to build lean muscle and tone things up. I ate in moderation during my weight loss part, but now cleaning things up but still not 100%, I've noticed a lot of changes since doing this but no you don't have to eat clean to lose weight.
so if you don't eat clean you can't build muscle? whhhhaaaattttt????0 -
Girl you are preaching to the choir! I posted a simple topic earlier and got ripped apart by people saying "your problem is that you you are eating processed foods" annoying. I am happy with eating in moderation, everyone just needs to be supportive
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Girl you are preaching to the choir! I posted a simple topic earlier and got ripped apart by people saying "your problem is that you you are eating processed foods" annoying. I am happy with eating in moderation, everyone just needs to be supportive
but you won't build lean muscle......0 -
I don't even believe in "everything in moderation." I believe in "everything I can eat and still meet my calorie and macro targets."
But the bottom line here is you have to find something you can live with. A lot of people do the "I'm a badass because I don't eat anything I didn't grow/raise/kill with my own two hands" thing for a while, and then when they realize they actually enjoy dirty, icky, God-forsaken PROCESSED foods, they jump off the wagon. I know this because I am one of those people.
If your goal is to lose weight and you have figured out how to do that while still eating the things you like, then forget what everyone else says. In the long run, that's the only way to be successful.0 -
If you are a clean eater and you criticize the people who are using the moderation idea, LEAVE US ALONE! You made your choice and we made ours.
When people used to do that to me, I usually just told them that the moment my food choices started to have a negative effect on their goals, then we could discuss it.0 -
I will say I think clean eating makes loosing weight easier because you tend to eat fewer calories. However I don't believe in "I don't have time to eat clean". You make time for what is important. I've been a college student working two jobs, you either use it as an excuse or make time. Eating clean isn't that big of an inconvenience if you prepare yourself. Don't get me wrong, I eat processed foods as well but I never make an excuse when I do. I'm getting to the point where it is harder to loose my weight and I slacked off on my clean eating and I noticed a difference in how I felt. Processed food makes my stomach hurt and I feel like crap when I eat it.
This is what I am talking about. It is like shaming when others don't/can't want to eat clean. I am very happy you were able to find time. Some of us honestly can't.
I wasn't shaming you, sorry you took it that way. I just don't believe in excuses. All I am saying is it is not harder to grab a banana than it is a bowl of cereal. Not all clean food takes hours to fix. I eat my share of junk, and I know how my body responds to it, but I also understand your different than I am. Just from personal experience it is easier to eat fewer calories/loose weight when eating clean, or at least it is for me.0 -
I think you need to have mfp friends who're doing the same kind of eating plan as you are. If you don't want to eat clean, fine. Befriend 'everything in moderation' people instead.0
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Won't get a rude 'tude from me OP. Moderation and portion control was and still is my mantra.
I Do try to eat cleaner but sometimes it just don't work.0 -
I get it.
the whole point of this topic, is about using the moderation and also how a clean eater would message me and shame me for eating processed in the context, the mentioned post to me personally felt a bit shaming. The poster, who I am sure is very lovely and did not mean anything by it, said they do not believe the excuse I don't have time. In previous posts I have said that I don't have time. To me at least, it felt that it was bit of shaming. I am not trying to make the poster look like a jerk, I promise. I just felt a little stabbed at and maybe I am just too sensitive but that is how I felt and I tell people when I feel something.
I see no shaming in that post.I will say I think clean eating makes loosing weight easier because you tend to eat fewer calories. However I don't believe in "I don't have time to eat clean". You make time for what is important. I've been a college student working two jobs, you either use it as an excuse or make time. Eating clean isn't that big of an inconvenience if you prepare yourself. Don't get me wrong, I eat processed foods as well but I never make an excuse when I do. I'm getting to the point where it is harder to loose my weight and I slacked off on my clean eating and I noticed a difference in how I felt. Processed food makes my stomach hurt and I feel like crap when I eat it.
This is what I am talking about. It is like shaming when others don't/can't want to eat clean. I am very happy you were able to find time. Some of us honestly can't.
This is part of the reason I posted this. I hate when people say oh you won't lose weight or you can always make time. Honestly in my schedule I can't. Everyday even my weekends are schedule out. I have been losing weight fine. I agree with every has different things work for them but enough with the shaming from both sides. And please don't assume people can make time. Sometimes my workout is my dance class for my arts general education credit and that's it. Sometimes my workout is at the gym on the bike studying or researching on my kindle.
You feel stabbed at. You started a thread about it. YOU started a thread on the web.
I saw no shaming in that post. But consider not start threads if you don't want to be disagreed with?
that said: have a look at a thread where someone wants to "eat clean" or is asking for advice how... lot's of mocking of anyone attempting to cut down on highly processed convenience foods.
I guess folks on both sides of the aisle feel judged. Which sucks.0 -
lol? people would message you for eating processed foods?
some people need to get a life.
Moderation is key to overall sustainability.0 -
btw I am someone who did my own VLCD 2.5 years ago and I am still holding the weight loss after I implemented moderation0
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I don't completely understand clean eating. I eat what I want and can when I can. I try to eat more fresh food. But sometimes I eat a bteakfast jack. Nutritionist actually said not too bad for me. Doctore said wendya plain potatoe and chili are ok. Low in fat. Some people are just too critical. Dp whatvworks for you.0
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I am a 44 year old mom of four (ages 7-19, but the college kid lives at home for now to save $$) who works 40 hours per week, teaches Sunday School and is a Cub Scout den leader. I can relate to busy. I also believe in moderation. Everyone is going to die eventually, eating only clean foods won't change that.
If you look at my diary, my processed foods are mostly first thing in the morning and occasionally at lunch, but I really don't sweat it. I grow my own veggies when my garden cooperates and hit the farmers market when it doesn't. during the winter, my lunches usually change to Progresso soups that are GF. And if you think the folks here can be aggressive about clean eating, you should see the celiac listserve I subscribe to. I was told recently that I need to boycott Chex cereal because it isn't non-GMO food. To which I replied, no, I don't. I need affordable GF food that I can eat and my kids will eat. You eat non-GMO if it makes you feel better, though.0 -
Also a moderation eater here! To each there own... as long as it works for you and you're happy. :flowerforyou:0
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I'm with you. One thing at a time, and to each their own! Bad food tastes too good to just give up =P0
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Girl you are preaching to the choir! I posted a simple topic earlier and got ripped apart by people saying "your problem is that you you are eating processed foods" annoying. I am happy with eating in moderation, everyone just needs to be supportive
but you won't build lean muscle......
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I like the Buddhist saying "There are many paths up the mountain". My path may not work for someone else - what I eat may not work for someone who has IBS, lactose intolerance, peanut butter allergies, etc, etc.
I'm into moderation too!
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I just changed to this profile pic earlier today - pure coincidence!0 -
When you are of college age, health consequences are not real to you. They just aren't - because you don't believe that YOU will ever have to deal with that? Why? Because you are healthy now, therefore you always will be. That is the mentality.
As for no time -- plheese!!! I've been through college while working 20 hrs a week, and you only think you are busy.
Let me tell you, wait till you have a family, a house, a husband, a full time job, 2 hour daily commute and a toddler with sleeping issues. You will laugh at your college "busy".
That being said, I don't eat clean. But most days I try my hardest to eat real food. Which in my definition generally means stuff that does not come from a package, a can, a sealed bag, food products that do not need to be refrigerated or have shelf life of weeks. (with obvious exceptions of nuts, whole grains, roots, that can naturally last longer).
Made from whole ingredients without preservatives. Like real baked cake, baked today, by an actual person. Not Entaments that does not even require refrigeration.
Exceptions make life easier. As long as they are exceptions and not rules. Yes, I don't pickle my own jalapegnos in adobo sauce. I don't have that ability. So if I need a spoon of it for my dish, not a big deal. But the dish won't come from a cardboard box under any circumstances.
How did I get here? Reading a lot. If you read how food is made, about food industry in general and specific techniques, you will realize how scary nutritionally poor that those things are. And how important nutrition is to health.
And the difference is - when I have a processed food (a 140 cal of chips with my wine, both of which do no good for me) I KNOW that those are empty entertainment calories and I have to limit those. An average person who is eating cereals for breakfast and hot pockets and pizza rolls, or spam with pasta, thinks of those things as food. That's the dangerous part.0 -
I try my best to cut back on processed foods but I still eat frozen meals sometimes ( I work full time and weird hours- and take care of my toddler ). Oh, and you can pry my coffee mate flavored creamers from my cold, dead hands because I'll never give them up. NEVA!0
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I'm a clean eater & i totally understand.
There's days when i slip up. There's also days where i don't have access to organic non-gmo foods.
It is what it is.
Just continue to do what's best for YOU.0 -
I don't eat clean. Lol I make an attempt most days to make sure we eat stuff that is somehow healthy..... Some days it doesn't happen. My husband is a full time college student, and i take 4 classes at our mosque (which he also takes lol so 8 classes for him) just that alone takes up so much time, but that's not factoring in any other activities. But time aside, its just not a priority. I eat foods i like, and while on Most days thats not so bad, ive had a few that were pretty scary where we went someplace that had food i wouldn't eat (goat and lamb or fish) we get home at midnight and my choice is defrost chicken and cook or walk to the gas station and buy chips and a yoohoo (i was way under calories that day lol) I'm not gonna cook. I cook 3 times a day, on most days, so when i want a meal off or even 3, im perfectly fine with quick easy stuff. As long as i stay on my calorie goals and keep losing weight i don't see Abby issue0
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