anyone juicing? juice fast?

Achrya · October 2013

I do 70% green leaf vegetables and 30% fruits to give it the sweetness. I am strictly no sugar, I soak dates in coconut water (take out pits), It becomes thick like honey and thats my sugar.I blend in my vitamix different veggies including kale, spinach, zuchini, cumcumber, carrots, scoop of my Protein powder and flaxeseed. For sweetness apart from the dates, i get sweetness from my fruits like mangoes, peach, oranges, nectarine etc

Just an FYI, sugar from dates, fruit and honey is still sugar so to say you are stricktly no sugar is very misleading. Your body basically breaks it down and uses all sugars in the same way. This is a really good post to read to clear up the confusion

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017237-so-what-s-with-this-sugar-then-faq

natural sugar from fruit is way better than white sugar, so when i say strictly no sugar - i am referring to white sugar as I see some will but in their smoothies or icecream blends to add sweetness to it.. I doubt that the Natural Sugar i get from fruit vs white sugar are the same ( i will read the article)

White sugar is natural too

Ohhh So i guess sugar is sugar no matter what huh? and There is no such thing like healthy sugar whether its white processed or its from fruits. This is like catch 22. Nonetheless, I now prefer the natural sugar from my fruits like dates or orange juice and NOT the grocery store packaged white processed sugar.

Actually it's nothing like a catch 22. And yes sugar is sugar please read the article.

There is nothing wrong on getting your sugar from fruit and veg, but claiming you are strictly no sugar is nonsense, in fact, depending in the amount of fruits and dates you use you may well consume more sugar than if you just ate a healthy balanced diet of food with a daily juice.

(side eye look) Excuse me???? Don't call what I said as NONSENSE, this is not a forum to be using such rude words, its not necessary. So i said strictly no sugar, Okay i rephrase, STRICTLY NO WHITE SUGAR is what i meant, whats the big deal.

You have an opinion or a suggestion you state it and be done with it, but to refer to it as NONSENSe is RUDE in my opinion- choose your words right and show some respect. What works for one may not work for another. I read the article, like the so many other articles so called experts have written and honestly i am tired of reading them - blah blah blah, we have heard it all what else is new. One day this is good for you, the next day that is not good for you. Damn if you do, damn if you dont.

Like everybody else on this forum, I have started a healthy life style and I may not know it all and all I am saying is I still prefer my 4 dates and a peach or strawberry in my daily diet done many grams of white sugar. I am doing what works for me and thats all there is to it.

Do whatever works for YOU - I will do what works for ME: JUICING VS BLENDING, WHITE SUGAR VS SUGAR FROM FRUITS. To each his own. (ps: this is an open forum and we are all here communicate in a civil manner and share some ideas, so All the self proclaimed experts & know it alls, who want to shove their PERFECT ideas down our throats can take a couple of seats,,,,,,,,,over there.). MSchwewwwwwwww

Wow

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

Wow

^this

Full disclosure: I own a Vitamix...have for ~15 years...and absolutely love it...probably because I use it for making smoothies and not for meal replacement. Some day, I may have jaw surgery and need to drink my meals, but until then, no thanks. I'll just keep eating an appropriate amount of actual food.

OP, best of luck to you in your 7, 10, or 30 days of an interesting self-experiment...(and then even more luck to you on the other side of it as you presumably begin a healthy approach to eating).

ryry_ · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

Hey, now...hold up with the name-calling.

You know the saying:

If you can't say anything nice...

...then you can go to hell!

judyde · October 2013

Why are you posting this in "Success Stories"?

AlizaBrandon · October 2013

Yes, I am doing one now. I was inspired by the movie "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". I recommend doing what I did. For a week prior to the offical start of the fast I juiced for two meals (Breakfast and Lunch) then ate alot of raw foods for dinner ie) varieties of salads. I did this the make the withdraw minimum when I did juice 100%. I lost weight just doing this and when I did start the fast I felt fine. Including the I've lost 7 pounds in 10 days! I've done this in the past and averaged a pound a day however you can't think once you are off the fast you can eat like you did in the past. I made that mistake and gained back the weight. First you have to ease your body back eating whole foods just like you need to ease yourself into the fast. Then slowly start adding different food to your regular diet ans see how you body handles it. Basically if you for example, come directly off the fast to eat that Thanksgiving meal your going to end up in the hospital. Hope this helps! And good luck!!

ryry_ · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

Hey, now...hold up with the name-calling.

You know the saying:

If you can't say anything nice...

...then you can go to hell!

Jof, did you have a nice lunch?

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Jem_Girl · October 2013

Mmm Aliza's post made me realize I mentioned that I'd done a juice fast but never gave the results. Completely agree that it is a jumpstart to a lifestyle change of healthier eating and not a quick fix to then resume what you were doing before (assuming you weren't eating healthily before). Have your markers for "am I healthy while on my juice fast?" and remember that if you do it for more than a few days then you have to use soups and the like to work your way back to "real" food at the end. I saw my doctor while on my juice fast and got his [albeit skeptical] approval after I assured him it was predominantly veggie juice.

I think I lost about 10 or so pounds over my 14 days on a juice fast. Might have been slightly more. I probably regained a couple pounds just from putting solid food back in my stomach, but since I continued eating at a deficit, I didn't regain that weight and have lost even more since. It helped to break me of a 2 - 4 soda a day habit (replaced by coconut water and my filtered water bottle). I still have treats now and then and days when I go over target, but it was a turning point. It also helped me to realize that HFCS has an addictive hold on me and the only way to deal with it is to not feed the addiction. You laugh, but I think about it... even now... Anyway, if you want more info on my experience, check out:

http://zaftig.shatterling.com/2013/07/day-3-of-my-reboot-triumphs-and-difficulties/
http://zaftig.shatterling.com/2013/07/rebooting_for_or_against/

Whatever you decide on... be healthy.

Edit: Oh, and in case you want the TL:DR of my Rebooting conclusion post.... at the end I decided that the best thing about juicing was its potential to help people with disorders like gastroparesis and a more balanced approach of juices supplementing real meals was more sustainable and healthier.

MsAkosia · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

Thanks. I am trying my best like everybody else.
And I will utilize my ignore button from here on from all the self proclaim experts who do not know how to communicate.

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

Thanks. I am trying my best like everybody else.
And I will utilize my ignore button from here on from all the self proclaim experts who do not know how to communicate.

You could save everyone in here some time if you would post a list of those individuals so everyone else can ignore them too. I often struggle to differentiate between "self-proclaimed experts who do not know how to communicate" and "people who disagree with my erroneous assertions and who express themselves using a tone of which I do not approve".

Thanks in advance.

:flowerforyou:

joecmoore1 · October 2013

I started out with a juice fast for 16 days and lost 20 lbs. I followed the program on rebootwithjoe.com. It was the kick start to my weight loss efforts.

I would highly recommend that you do your homework before you do a juice fast and make sure that you follow the program to the letter! Going onto only juice or coming off of it too quickly will have rather unpleasant results. Ease onto it and ease off over the course of 4 or 5 days at the beginning and end.

I view a juice fast as a tool to help you get started and to detox every few months...not as a long term solution.

I approached my relationship with food as an addiction which is why I started with the juice fast. I used it to help break my food addiction and cravings. It was very helpful from that point of view. It worked well to also retrain my pallet to some extent to where I could tolerate vegetables. Before, I couldn't eat any raw veg without choking and gagging. Even though I still do not love veggies, I can now eat them without much problem. Hummus helps. lol.

You want to avoid strenuous exercise during the fast as you are not consuming much in the way of carbs and protein. Once you come off of it fully and start to eat a balanced, healthy diet, then incorporate exercise into your routine.

I stopped after 16 days because my body just starting really needing some solid food. I'm not sure about anything beyond a couple of weeks, but listen to your body and be your own judge. It is not a long term solution. I would also recommend that you consult your doctor if you have any major health issues before you start.

After the fast, I still do a smoothie in the morning with Kale, spinach, fruit, etc. But eat light and healthy throughout the day. I also exercise 4 or 5 times a week. Twice a week with full body/core training and two or three times by walking about 6+ miles. Start out where your comfortable and work your way up.

Exercise and watching your calorie intake is key. MFP is awesome for tracking both. So far I have lost 53 lbs with another 80 to go! I have done this before, but this time the difference is that I feel in control as opposed to being a victim of my genetics, appetite, environment, etc.

Good Luck!

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

I'm in the wrong line of work...

http://shop.rebootwithjoe.com/
http://shop.rebootwithjoe.com/collections/juicers

Chrisschumm · October 2013

i did the juice thing for a while... about 40 days... its great for a detox... but is just really a pain washing the damn machine EVERY DAY...

I haven't even looked at that machine in 1 year lol..

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

i did the juice thing for a while... about 40 days... its great for a detox... but is just really a pain washing the damn machine EVERY DAY...

I haven't even looked at that machine in 1 year lol..

Which toxins were you able to eliminate with 40 days of juice?

joecmoore1 · October 2013

You don't have to buy the juicer or the products that Joe endorses at rebootwithjoe.com to juice. I bought one at Wal-Mart for $60 on sale and it works fine. That's about what you'll pay for any moderate to good quality appliance. There are a lot of resources on his site that are in fact, free. Such as the juicing guides etc. The forum and articles were especially valuable to me.

The word "toxins" is probably a misnomer. In fact I say that its mostly getting rid of and getting off of the crap that we eat every day and need to stay away from such as saturated fats, salts, sugar, etc. or rather the excesses of these things.

I agree that the juicer is a big pain to clean. I have since moved to using the nutribullet blender for my smoothies which is a lot faster and easier to clean than a conventional blender. It also is easier to take on the road which I do a lot with my work.

flumi_f · October 2013

A juice fast or any kind of fasting is good to reset your relationship with food.

Just a thought...once you've finished your fast, read up on 5:2 aka the Fast Diet. There is a group on MFP too. Then you only have to count cals on 2 days out of 5, have regular partial fasts and all the health benefits of fasting.

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

You don't have to buy the juicer or the products that Joe endorses at rebootwithjoe.com to juice. I bought one at Wal-Mart for $60 on sale and it works fine. That's about what you'll pay for any moderate to good quality appliance. There are a lot of resources on his site that are in fact, free. Such as the juicing guides etc. The forum and articles were especially valuable to me.

The word "toxins" is probably a misnomer. In fact I say that its mostly getting rid of and getting off of the crap that we eat every day and need to stay away from such as saturated fats, salts, sugar, etc. or rather the excesses of these things.

I agree that the juicer is a big pain to clean. I have since moved to using the nutribullet blender for my smoothies which is a lot faster and easier to clean than a conventional blender. It also is easier to take on the road which I do a lot with my work.

(Which point do I want to challenge in this post...eenie meenie miney moe...saturated fats.)

What's wrong with saturated fats?

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

A juice fast or any kind of fasting is good to reset your relationship with food.

Just a thought...once you've finished your fast, read up on 5:2 aka the Fast Diet. There is a group on MFP too. Then you only have to count cals on 2 days out of 5, have regular partial fasts and all the health benefits of fasting.

Consuming nothing but juice or even consuming no foods at all for a time is a good way to "reset your relationship with food"???

Hang on...I want to ponder this for a moment...

...still pondering...

...almost...

...okay, done.

jofjltncb6 · October 2013

Look Dude....if your so smart then say what you mean and quit the smart *kitten* comments.

If you don't buy into it, fine...don't. I really don't give a **** what your opinion is. The original poster asked about juicing, and I gave my point of you. I am not an expert, I can only relay my experiences, what I've learned and what has worked for me. If it works for her, great! If not, then ok. She can try another avenue.

If you have something to contribute, then lay the knowledge on us, if not, then shut up and stop being a douche.

Thank you for the feedback.

:flowerforyou:

PikaKnight · October 2013

Look Dude....if your so smart then say what you mean and quit the smart *kitten* comments.

If you don't buy into it, fine...don't. I really don't give a **** what your opinion is. The original poster asked about juicing, and I gave my point of you. I am not an expert, I can only relay my experiences, what I've learned and what has worked for me. If it works for her, great! If not, then ok. She can try another avenue.

If you have something to contribute, then lay the knowledge on us, if not, then shut up and stop being a douche.

I think someone needs to take a break.

Cranquistador · October 2013

NO.

redheaddee · October 2013

In for stupid.

ETA I meant in before the lock. Yeah.

rawfull · October 2013

I'm not juice fasting, but I try to juice several times a week...
I'm eating 100% raw vegan foods, and my health has improved a great deal...
I saw the movie, "Sick, Fat, and Nearly Dead" and was impressed with the results...

Good luck in your journey to health...

SoDamnHungry · October 2013

Bunch of bullies and internet gangstaz up in here.......OP you're doing great! Good luck on your Quest!

Hey, now...hold up with the name-calling.

You know the saying:

If you can't say anything nice...

...then you can go to hell!

Jof, did you have a nice lunch?

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:laugh:

Rays_Wife · October 2013

This thread delivers.

Thanks for the early morning laughs

JaxDemon · October 2013

Really don't know why anyone would want to deprive themselves of having to actually chew food for 30 days. Maybe 7 but 30 just no lol. Each to their own though.

anyone juicing? juice fast?

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