How to get enough protein?
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A research study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association produced a report by the Board of the Institute of Medicine to determine optimal intake of the macronutrients protein, carbohydrates, and fats.
I know my level is overkill, but it works for me and I'm losing weight just fine. My body can use protein for energy just as it can use fats and carbs. In fact, it'll waste a bit more energy to turn it into usable energy through the process of gluconeogenesis, so there is an efficiency cost to eating my calories in protein vs. carbs. Short version: 100 calories of carbs =/= 100 calories of protein (in terms of available ATP).
I also refuse to lose any muscle while I'm losing fat, so I want to be damned sure that my body has available amino acids on hand whenever it needs to repair muscle.
I don't advocate my way for anybody else. Everybody has to find what works best for them.0 -
AS an avid lifter, my protein comes from egg whites, Chicken, and Tuna, Skim Milk....
I bake chicken every other day, only enough to last 2 days.( I hate left overs)
You might consider cutting you protein needs in half, so you don't hurt your kidneys. Only a few times a year boosting to the level your trying to achieve0 -
I also wholeheartedly believe there is no need to consume "supplemental" protein such as highly processed powders etc. to lose weight....
I have never had a protein shake and I have lost more than 80 pounds now. I find that is IS necessary to change one's eating habits and make gradual, sustainable changes, and find a way to manage "trigger foods" and treat foods, but there is no need to drink nasty protein powders.
It's not for weight loss, it's for muscle retention while losing weight. All you need for weight loss is calorie deficit.0 -
Whey protein (more of it), Greek yogurt, canned tuna.0
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A research study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association produced a report by the Board of the Institute of Medicine to determine optimal intake of the macronutrients protein, carbohydrates, and fats. Regarding protein intake, they determined the recommended daily allowance (RDA) for those 18 years of age and older was 0.8 g of protein per kilogram body weight per day. In plain English, this means .36 grams per pound of body weight.
It was also noted the dietary guidelines published by the U.S. Department of Agriculture and Governmental programs, such as the school lunch program for children and Meals on Wheels for elderly persons, use the .36 grams/pound/day as well. Same for dietary guidelines published in the dietetic literature, the popular press, and various nutritional computer programs - a recommend protein intake of .36 grams/pound/day.
In example, a 190 pound person would need only 68.4 grams of protein per day. That requirement could be met by ingesting a 4 ounce skinless chicken breast, half a cup of low-fat cottage cheese, and half a cup of crushed walnuts in one day.
Any more protein than this is likely to be superflous - but if you want energy you could do no better than eating starch. Potatoes contain all the vitamins and minerals needed - because they are the storage system of the plant. Likewise with rice
Are you measuring your carb intake? This may deserve your attention. Heres a thought - Carbs are the way to Nirvanah without feeling hungry
Yeah, everything I've read outside of mfp recommends lower amounts of protein. WHO, CDC etc etc all have recommendations that are much lower than what's popular on mfp. For my age it's recommended that I get in around 46 grams a day. The above calculation puts me at around 44 grams. Here's a good site from the CDC with some basic info on protein/how much you should be consuming http://www.cdc.gov/nutrition/everyone/basics/protein.html
We're all at different places for our weight/health, and have different macro needs, but there's many of us who just don't need extra protein.0 -
kinda disappointed that all the anti-protein vegetarians and vegans have jumped in to bad mouth protein, but i'm not surprised...
don't listen to them. they are full of you-know-what.
read these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/823505-research-on-protien-intake
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/869015-fundamental-flaws-with-rda-recommendations-for-protein0 -
LBM is figured out by bf%....ie I am 167lbs and appx 26% bf%...leaves me with appx 128lbs of LBM....so I try to get in 128g of protien a day as I do lift and my calories are at 1600 as well...
I eat the following:
Greek yogurt
Salmon
Chicken
Extra lean burger
cheese (cottage, marble, parmesan)
Eggs
Milk
Protien powder
Protien shakes
Protien bars....0 -
kinda disappointed that all the anti-protein vegetarians and vegans have jumped in to bad mouth protein, but i'm not surprised...
don't listen to them. they are full of you-know-what.
read these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/823505-research-on-protien-intake
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/869015-fundamental-flaws-with-rda-recommendations-for-protein
I'm not a vegetarian or anti-protein, but mfp is the only place I've seen the big push for a high protein diet, and that goes against everything that I've read elsewhere, from pretty reputable sources. I will read the links you've given though and see what they say0 -
kinda disappointed that all the anti-protein vegetarians and vegans have jumped in to bad mouth protein, but i'm not surprised...
don't listen to them. they are full of you-know-what.
read these:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/823505-research-on-protien-intake
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/869015-fundamental-flaws-with-rda-recommendations-for-protein
I'm not a vegetarian or anti-protein, but mfp is the only place I've seen the big push for a high protein diet, and that goes against everything that I've read elsewhere, from pretty reputable sources. I will read the links you've given though and see what they say
Eta- just read through the first link and since I don't fall into any of the categories listed there, I still don't believe a higher protein diet would be beneficial in any way for me. Maybe I'm in the special snowflake category on this one, as I'm not trying to lose weight/eat at a calorie defecit and I'm not doing intense exercise/training. I'm a pretty 'average' person, which is what the recomendations from the CDC and such are for.0 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week0 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week0 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week
What is the expectation? Keep in mind I have no desire to get big or ripped.
ETA: I've done the high protein thing in the past, when I tried every fad diet that came down the pipe. On the plus side, my joints felt more .. lubricated? .. less knee pain. On the minus side, my cholesterol went from 160 to 3000 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week
What is the expectation? Keep in mind I have no desire to get big or ripped.
ETA: I've done the high protein thing in the past, when I tried every fad diet that came down the pipe. On the plus side, my joints felt more .. lubricated? .. less knee pain. On the minus side, my cholesterol went from 160 to 3000 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week
What is the expectation? Keep in mind I have no desire to get big or ripped.
ETA: I've done the high protein thing in the past, when I tried every fad diet that came down the pipe. On the plus side, my joints felt more .. lubricated? .. less knee pain. On the minus side, my cholesterol went from 160 to 300
I'm preserving all of it, and building some ..0 -
Im sure eyes glossed over after looking at an actual scientific study so I highlighted the relevant part.Eating more than RDA of protein is recommended for maintaining lean body mass in a calorie deficit.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23739654Abstract
The purpose of this work was to determine the effects of varying levels of dietary protein on body composition and muscle protein synthesis during energy deficit (ED). A randomized controlled trial of 39 adults assigned the subjects diets providing protein at 0.8 (recommended dietary allowance; RDA), 1.6 (2×-RDA), and 2.4 (3×-RDA) g kg(-1) d(-1) for 31 d. A 10-d weight-maintenance (WM) period was followed by a 21 d, 40% ED. Body composition and postabsorptive and postprandial muscle protein synthesis were assessed during WM (d 9-10) and ED (d 30-31). Volunteers lost (P<0.05) 3.2 ± 0.2 kg body weight during ED regardless of dietary protein. The proportion of weight loss due to reductions in fat-free mass was lower (P<0.05) and the loss of fat mass was higher (P<0.05) in those receiving 2×-RDA and 3×-RDA compared to RDA. The anabolic muscle response to a protein-rich meal during ED was not different (P>0.05) from WM for 2×-RDA and 3×-RDA, but was lower during ED than WM for those consuming RDA levels of protein (energy × protein interaction, P<0.05). To assess muscle protein metabolic responses to varied protein intakes during ED, RDA served as the study control. In summary, we determined that consuming dietary protein at levels exceeding the RDA may protect fat-free mass during short-term weight loss.-Pasiakos, S. M., Cao, J. J., Margolis, L. M., Sauter, E. R., Whigham, L. D., McClung, J. P., Rood, J. C., Carbone, J. W., Combs, G. F., Jr., Young, A. J. Effects of high-protein diets on fat-free mass and muscle protein synthesis following weight loss: a randomized controlled trial.0 -
I usually shoot for 100g protein a day. sometimes I miss. sometimes I go as high as 130 or so. In 20 months, this has not hindered weight loss, muscle retention, strength increases, or minor muscle gain.
That 1gm/lb lbm is just ridiculous.
ETA: 5'9", 225 lbs, Run 2.5 miles 3x/week, Strength Train with a personal trainer 3x/week0 -
Cheese
Beef Jerky.0
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