How do you American men feel about this?

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  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    I'm 5'11" 215, so I'm therefore a lard *kitten* and look chunkier than the men pictured as normal for the US.

    I'm mortified. Time to starve myself to get down to an ideal weight.
  • I weight 247 and wear size 34 jeans.
  • crackur
    crackur Posts: 473 Member
    I didnt even read it......but who cares? LOL I can't get over the idea people try to look good for society or other people.
  • _noob_
    _noob_ Posts: 3,306 Member
    I didnt even read it......but who cares? LOL I can't get over the idea people try to look good for society or other people.

    it's not like you can just go club a mate in the head anymore (legally), so even before there was looking good for society one still had to make oneself attractive for someone else (or forego contributing to the gene pool and thus "success" in the natural world).
  • exmsde
    exmsde Posts: 85 Member
    Right data, wrong conclusion. All those other countries have massive starvation problems and the average American male is how we're supposed to look if you are healthy ;-)

    It is sad how badly we've skewed things so that the average is approaching Homer Simpson. I'm now on a personal quest to be able to blend in with a crowd in Amsterdam. Because I can't possibly look Japanese and I have no desire to be mistaken for a Frenchman.
  • crackur
    crackur Posts: 473 Member
    I didnt even read it......but who cares? LOL I can't get over the idea people try to look good for society or other people.

    it's not like you can just go club a mate in the head anymore (legally), so even before there was looking good for society one still had to make oneself attractive for someone else (or forego contributing to the gene pool and thus "success" in the natural world).
    hahaha so I should mold myself in efforts for lady friends?

    how about I be happy with how I want to look and they just want me?
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    I have better taste is underwear, fo shurr.

    180 cm, 89kg. 47 years old and "better" BMI than the "average" American 30-39.
    Size 34/33 jeans.

    But then I'm not American.

    But really - I prefer to compare myself to who I was yesterday and who I will be tomorrow, not a poorly drawn, out of shape statistical model.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    All those other countries have massive starvation problems

    You must be joking.
  • SoDamnHungry
    SoDamnHungry Posts: 6,998 Member
    Why is everyone wearing a diaper?
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  • beekay70
    beekay70 Posts: 214 Member
    While I think that it would be accurate to say that we are more overweight than our counterparts in other countries, I think that this particular exercise is flawed, as he uses BMI to develop the illustration. As has been discussed at length on this site, BMI is a flawed indicator, particularly for men because it does not take differences in lean mass into account. My BMI is in nearly 28, which is "overweight" and nearly "obese", yet my body fat percentage is 16%: "athletic".
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    All those other countries have massive starvation problems

    You must be joking.

    No it's true, I live in France and we have starvation everywhere. The new Marshall Plan of placing a McDo on the Champs has helped but it's still a struggle.
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Current BMI, 30. 5'7, 195 pounds. Medium T-shirt and size 32 jeans. Yeah, I'm definitely fat...
  • wild_wild_life
    wild_wild_life Posts: 1,334 Member
    Honestly I'm surprised it's not worse. I really hope they don't do a female one.
  • wolverine66
    wolverine66 Posts: 3,779 Member
    of course i'm fat, why do you think i'm here?
  • emergencytennis
    emergencytennis Posts: 864 Member
    All those other countries have massive starvation problems

    You must be joking.

    No it's true, I live in France and we have starvation everywhere. The new Marshall Plan of placing a McDo on the Champs has helped but it's still a struggle.

    That's the real reason Depardieu left France. Not enough food. For shame.
  • KBjimAZ
    KBjimAZ Posts: 369 Member
    The whole BMI thing is ridiculous in my mind. A reference number? Fine. But it is by no means an accurate depiction of the health and wellness of every individual. We are all as different as our fingerprints. To judge my life based on a number that is decided with such limited input data is shortsighted at best.
  • SkinnyFatAlbert
    SkinnyFatAlbert Posts: 482 Member
    I think what we really need to focus on is fueling the female obsession with weight so end up with more hot chicks. It's OK for guys to be a little pudgy. After thousands of years of hunting and killing sabertoothed tigers, etc we've earned it.
  • KBjimAZ
    KBjimAZ Posts: 369 Member
    I think what we really need to focus on is fueling the female obsession with weight so end up with more hot chicks. It's OK for guys to be a little pudgy. After thousands of years of hunting and killing sabertoothed tigers, etc we've earned it.

    .....for the win
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  • emergencytennis
    emergencytennis Posts: 864 Member
    The whole BMI thing is ridiculous in my mind. A reference number? Fine. But it is by no means an accurate depiction of the health and wellness of every individual. We are all as different as our fingerprints. To judge my life based on a number that is decided with such limited input data is shortsighted at best.

    BMI is a generalisation, of course. Generally, people who have a BMI that falls within the healthy range have a lower chance of developing a suite of diseases. Step outside that range and you are, generally, at risk of developing weight-related illnesses.

    One may be the special snowflake that defies the statistics and lives a long and healthy life despite being overweight. May the odds be ever in your favour.
  • beekay70
    beekay70 Posts: 214 Member
    The whole BMI thing is ridiculous in my mind. A reference number? Fine. But it is by no means an accurate depiction of the health and wellness of every individual. We are all as different as our fingerprints. To judge my life based on a number that is decided with such limited input data is shortsighted at best.

    Well, the study was looking at large populations, which is what BMI was designed for. So, it is the correct measurement. I wouldn't dismiss it. It is information about the state of things. It may or may not apply to you directly.

    When someone talks about the homeless problem, I'm just like, what homeless problem. I have been employed since I was 15 years old. It's not that I'm insensitive, but I don't see a problem. However, that doesn't mean it's not there. This is similar to that. By you sort of dismissing it, you're saying, it doesn't apply. It might not apply to you. But, it's still a growing issue. (Pun intended).

    The problem with an index used to evaluate a population is that culture and genetics have everything to do with body composition.
  • jeffd247
    jeffd247 Posts: 319 Member
    We're fat, and your women are still mail ordering themselves to us as wives...



    I'll be right back, I'm off to get some fried chicken.
  • beekay70
    beekay70 Posts: 214 Member
    The whole BMI thing is ridiculous in my mind. A reference number? Fine. But it is by no means an accurate depiction of the health and wellness of every individual. We are all as different as our fingerprints. To judge my life based on a number that is decided with such limited input data is shortsighted at best.

    BMI is a generalisation, of course. Generally, people who have a BMI that falls within the healthy range have a lower chance of developing a suite of diseases. Step outside that range and you are, generally, at risk of developing weight-related illnesses.

    One may be the special snowflake that defies the statistics and lives a long and healthy life despite being overweight. May the odds be ever in your favour.

    Falling outside of an index that by definition is a generalization does not make one a "special snowflake".
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  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    I would like that same experiment to be done correlating BMI and GDP per capita.

    For the lulz.
  • emergencytennis
    emergencytennis Posts: 864 Member
    Falling outside of an index that by definition is a generalization does not make one a "special snowflake".

    Yes, it does. It is the definition of a special snowflake. Those that do not conform to the general. Outliers.
  • beekay70
    beekay70 Posts: 214 Member
    The whole BMI thing is ridiculous in my mind. A reference number? Fine. But it is by no means an accurate depiction of the health and wellness of every individual. We are all as different as our fingerprints. To judge my life based on a number that is decided with such limited input data is shortsighted at best.

    Well, the study was looking at large populations, which is what BMI was designed for. So, it is the correct measurement. I wouldn't dismiss it. It is information about the state of things. It may or may not apply to you directly.

    When someone talks about the homeless problem, I'm just like, what homeless problem. I have been employed since I was 15 years old. It's not that I'm insensitive, but I don't see a problem. However, that doesn't mean it's not there. This is similar to that. By you sort of dismissing it, you're saying, it doesn't apply. It might not apply to you. But, it's still a growing issue. (Pun intended).

    The problem with an index used to evaluate a population is that culture and genetics have everything to do with body composition.

    Culture? What does culture have to do with body composition?

    Culture influences diet. Diet influences body composition. I spent almost two years in India around some very skinny-fat people. A diet rich in quick-digesting carbs and low in protein makes for no real lean muscle mass and a population at higher risk of heart disease and diabetes than would be expected considering where they fit in the BMI scale.
  • beekay70
    beekay70 Posts: 214 Member
    Falling outside of an index that by definition is a generalization does not make one a "special snowflake".

    Yes, it does. It is the definition of a special snowflake. Those that do not conform to the general. Outliers.

    No, falling outside of a generalized index based on averages does not make one special. And an index developed more than 150 years ago probably needs to be re-evaluated for applicability.
  • myprana
    myprana Posts: 66
    New question: How do you American men feel about being drawn with a microscopic penis?