Anyone follow WAPF guidelines and losing weight?

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Although I'm just 'back on the wagon' with MyFitnessPal.com, I've only recently begun following the nutrition guidelines as presented in Nourishing Traditions. Adding coconut oil, butter, cream and other similar foods to my diet has been great, but I realize I need to track my calories, as I'm desperately needing to lose weight.

Anyone else following this way of eating and seeing success with weight loss?

(In case anyone is wondering, WAPF = Weston A. Price Foundation, which promotes a diet of nourishing whole foods, abstinence from processed foods, refined grains and sugar products, regular consumption of probiotic-rich lacto-fermented foods and beverages and proper preparation of grains and legumes by soaking.)

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  • BBeccaJean
    BBeccaJean Posts: 453 Member
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    I think WAPF is the BEST. It is very holistic and natural. I lost some weight when I did it, but you feel a lot better too. I should really start following it again since I'm pregnant!
  • binknbaby
    binknbaby Posts: 207 Member
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    WAPF is excellent! The more I read about it and see the obvious results, the more I just love it!!!

    Here's a great book that's free online: http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html
  • julianpoutram
    julianpoutram Posts: 331 Member
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    Although I'm just 'back on the wagon' with MyFitnessPal.com, I've only recently begun following the nutrition guidelines as presented in Nourishing Traditions. Adding coconut oil, butter, cream and other similar foods to my diet has been great, but I realize I need to track my calories, as I'm desperately needing to lose weight.

    Anyone else following this way of eating and seeing success with weight loss?

    (In case anyone is wondering, WAPF = Weston A. Price Foundation, which promotes a diet of nourishing whole foods, abstinence from processed foods, refined grains and sugar products, regular consumption of probiotic-rich lacto-fermented foods and beverages and proper preparation of grains and legumes by soaking.)

    I don't know anything about WAPF, but I can tell you that there is no way to lose weight quickly, especially if you want to keep it off or not gain another 10 lbs as a result of under eating on a crash diet. Whatever reason you desperately need to lose weight fast, think about whether it's worth the expense of your long term health.
  • islandlifenc
    islandlifenc Posts: 107 Member
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    I think WAPF is the BEST. It is very holistic and natural. I lost some weight when I did it, but you feel a lot better too. I should really start following it again since I'm pregnant!

    Thanks for the response! Feeling better is definitely happening, although gradually. I have more energy, but the biggest thing is the loss of my need for snacks all day. I'm so satiated from one meal to the next, I don't think about snacking. Instead, I plan my next meal.

    The biggest challenge is how much more time I'm having to spend in the kitchen (I work from home AND I homeschool!), but I feel so much better about what I'm feeding myself and my son. :-) Not to mention, there's something therapeutic about all of the preparations each day... making kefir, soaking grains, fermenting. It's almost like making natural medicine at home. I never knew you could improve the nutrients that come from your food just by altering the way you prepare them!
  • islandlifenc
    islandlifenc Posts: 107 Member
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    WAPF is excellent! The more I read about it and see the obvious results, the more I just love it!!!

    Here's a great book that's free online: http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/price/pricetoc.html

    Oh wow! Thanks for that link! I've read Nourishing Traditions... I'm reading it a LOT actually. I also have "Eat Fat, Lose Fat" by the same authors, but I've never actually seen WAP's book. Thank you for sharing the link. :)
  • islandlifenc
    islandlifenc Posts: 107 Member
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    I don't know anything about WAPF, but I can tell you that there is no way to lose weight quickly, especially if you want to keep it off or not gain another 10 lbs as a result of under eating on a crash diet. Whatever reason you desperately need to lose weight fast, think about whether it's worth the expense of your long term health.

    I agree. That's why I have my diet/fitness profile set to 1 lb per week.
  • binknbaby
    binknbaby Posts: 207 Member
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    Although I'm just 'back on the wagon' with MyFitnessPal.com, I've only recently begun following the nutrition guidelines as presented in Nourishing Traditions. Adding coconut oil, butter, cream and other similar foods to my diet has been great, but I realize I need to track my calories, as I'm desperately needing to lose weight.

    Anyone else following this way of eating and seeing success with weight loss?

    (In case anyone is wondering, WAPF = Weston A. Price Foundation, which promotes a diet of nourishing whole foods, abstinence from processed foods, refined grains and sugar products, regular consumption of probiotic-rich lacto-fermented foods and beverages and proper preparation of grains and legumes by soaking.)

    I don't know anything about WAPF, but I can tell you that there is no way to lose weight quickly, especially if you want to keep it off or not gain another 10 lbs as a result of under eating on a crash diet. Whatever reason you desperately need to lose weight fast, think about whether it's worth the expense of your long term health.

    WAPF is definitely not a crash diet or anything remotely close to it. It's a lifestyle change that CAN (usually does) bring about immediate changes, but the concept behind it--the purpose, even--has nothing to do with losing weight quickly. It's more like the body suddenly finds itself so nourished that it has no reason to hold onto the fat and releases it easily. It's all about nourishment, traditional foods and cooking methods, and balance (no extremes).

    An example of some WAPF foods:

    Soaked grains (if any)
    Fermented foods like raw sauerkraut, kefir, beet kvass, raw cider
    Slow-cooked meats
    Bone broth
    Variety of vegetables, but only seasonal
    Raw dairy
    Eggs with runny yolk (ie over easy rather than scrambled)
    Minimal (if any) processed foods
    No white flour
    Vinegar
    Organ meats (but only from pastured animals, like free range chickens or grass-fed beef)
  • HomesteadHoney
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    A few years ago I worked very hard on a WAPF/Eat Fat to Lose Fat diet, even to the point of getting dairy goats to have my own raw milk.
    I saw from EFTLF, it was more important to build my health than lose weight. The healthy oils greatly improved my emotional health and stamina. However, I have never lost any weight :(
    Now that my children are grown, there is more time to focus on me and I am trying to improve my health through diet and exercise.
    When looking at WAPF guidelines, I get it as to whole foods in their natural state, etc, but I am not so clear on type and amount of protein, carbs, calories, etc.
    I have also read EFTLF and Schwarzbein Principle. The types of foods make sense, but the details are confusing.
    I am new to MFP (studying it today) and wondering if it is possible to have a WAPF thread or group on here? Maybe there's one and I just haven't found it :)
  • islandlifenc
    islandlifenc Posts: 107 Member
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    I am new to MFP (studying it today) and wondering if it is possible to have a WAPF thread or group on here? Maybe there's one and I just haven't found it :)

    I would LOVE to see a WAPF thread on here. That's a great idea. :)
    I saw from EFTLF, it was more important to build my health than lose weight. The healthy oils greatly improved my emotional health and stamina. However, I have never lost any weight :(

    I've only started adopting the WAPF principles since the beginning of this year, but it's only since I've actually been tracking my calories (for about a week), that I'm losing pounds. I didn't even want to start counting calories while trying to ingest 3T of coconut oil per day! I wanted to get accustomed to finding ways to build up to it, and work it in, first.

    Now that I've seen how satiated I am, having replaced all of my oils with coconut oil and butter (I read EFLF, too! and Bruce Fife's "The Coconut Miracle"), I've lost my sweet tooth and don't feel compelled to nibble and snack all day long.

    In this first week of tracking AND using the WAPF principles (slightly modified, as I'm not as strict as I'd like b/c of no resources for raw dairy and no desire to eat organ meats), I've been losing 0.8 lbs/day on average. That means a 4 lb loss in 5 days.

    Even if it's only like this this week, I'm definitely getting the idea that it's the right thing to do. As 'binknbaby' mentioned on my board, once your body starts getting the nutrients it so desperately needs, it just lets go of the fat.

    I might not be on here often enough to maintain a WAPF thread, but I'd love to participate in one if someone will start it.
  • ThisMichelleJane
    ThisMichelleJane Posts: 6 Member
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    Hi! I'd love a WAPF and EFLF thread. I haven't seen one in all my searches. Perhaps I'll just start one? Would love to have support and ideas from others. Emjay xx
  • tsaalyo
    tsaalyo Posts: 7 Member
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    I know this isn't the point of this thread, but I really feel the need to say something.

    What you eat doesn't matter. Your weight is the simple equation of calories in vs. calories out. That's IT. Yes, there are certain foods that are like 20 calories and yet 40 grams of trans fat, but those are very few and very far between. Mind your saturated fat, try to eliminate trans fat entirely, and set a realistic daily limit for sugar (mine is 134 grams), and you should be fine. Because here's the most important point of all: you WILL lose your weight loss goals if your plan involves changing your diet in a way that you are not comfortable living with FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. Are you really, honestly going to eliminate all processed foods from your diet for the rest of your life? If so, I guess you can just stop reading here. Otherwise, here it is.

    What you need to do is work the numbers, and find a way to eat what you want, and not eat what you hate, while keeping yourself under your daily limits. My diet consists mostly of prepackaged, processed foods, and two servings of soda a day. And when I say "serving", i mean "can" or "591 mL bottle" or "fountain drink". Now, is this the diet of a person who wants to be an Olympic gold medalist? No. My goal is not to have the body of a Greek god. My goal is to be of a healthy weight. Multivitamins for health, and that's it.

    By the way, let me just go on a little rant about "healthy" food. Forgive me if links don't work, I've never tried it before:

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/1f2e86884715638546ec025e1f78c6cb/tumblr_mugxaeLEqU1qf7o51o1_500.jpg

    This is why people gain weight.

    Pictured above is a Zinger combo from KFC. It features a very very breaded chicken breast sandwich, with lettuce and mayo on a sesame seed bun, with individual fries, and either a 20 ounce drink, or you can pay a little extra and upgrade to a bottle. Beside it is a single slice of Swiss cheese, fresh from the deli.

    Why am I comparing these two things?

    They have the same amount of saturated fat.

    The KFC Zinger combo contains a total of 5 grams of saturated fat - 4 from the burger, 1 from the fries. It also contains no trans fats. None. Meanwhile, that single slice of Swiss cheese?

    5 grams of saturated fat.

    Holy bleeping expletive, are you kidding me? Now, maybe I’m a newbie in the cold cuts world for only now realizing how fatty cheese is, but I made the above image so you can really digest what I’m trying to say. If you still had plenty of calories to go in a day, but were watching your saturated fat intake, you might pass off going out to eat, and just make yourself a sandwich at home. Any idiot would tell you it’s gotta be healthier, right? Well, no. You put one slice of cheese on that sandwich, nevermind what your meats and other stuff may have, and you’re already worse off than if you went to KFC, of all places.

    This is the kind of stuff that dietitians don’t tell you. This is the kind of stuff that health food nuts don’t tell you. This is why I’ve lost 19 pounds while still eating out at least once a week. Take another look at the foods you think are healthy, and the foods you think are so terrible for you. You may be in for a surprise.

    Just to conclude, again, I know this wasn't the point of this thread, and I'm not trying to start some huge fight over this. But anytime I see people try some program or diet that drastically changes what they eat, I just know I'm looking at people who are doomed to yoyo. If you can swear off McDonald's and Michelina's and Dempster's sliced bread for the rest of your life, have at it, and I commend you. But if you know in your heart that that's just not realistic, I encourage you to think about what I've said here today. Regardless, best of luck!
  • ThisMichelleJane
    ThisMichelleJane Posts: 6 Member
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    I understand where you're coming from. We take and do what we know will work for us. I still have occasional takeaways and I enjoy going out for a meal. I find some processed food very useful, its about finding your own comfort level on your journey to wellness. For some, certain ingredients in processed food messes with enzyme and hormone productions. I have 3 friends, who under specialist care have needed to eliminate as much as they can processed food for the health of their children.

    We do what we can. I'm not trying to sway anyone to the WAPF/NT camp, I was looking for others who enjoy this style and may have different variations of recipes we share. I haven't been on MFP for long, and I felt it had a supportive atmosphere. I understand you don't want anyone to be deceived, thank you for posting.
  • iechick
    iechick Posts: 352 Member
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    Although I'm just 'back on the wagon' with MyFitnessPal.com, I've only recently begun following the nutrition guidelines as presented in Nourishing Traditions. Adding coconut oil, butter, cream and other similar foods to my diet has been great, but I realize I need to track my calories, as I'm desperately needing to lose weight.

    Anyone else following this way of eating and seeing success with weight loss?

    (In case anyone is wondering, WAPF = Weston A. Price Foundation, which promotes a diet of nourishing whole foods, abstinence from processed foods, refined grains and sugar products, regular consumption of probiotic-rich lacto-fermented foods and beverages and proper preparation of grains and legumes by soaking.)

    I've read it but but was not convinced that it was the healthiest way to eat. Sally Fallon, the author, is also overweight. Not trying to pick on her, but if you're promoting a way of eating for good health and it's making you overweight, which increases your risks for various diseases, how is that healthy?

    Sally-2013
    http://appropriateomnivore.com/detroitwapf2013-otherwapf/
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    you can eat pretty much what you want, and as long as you maintain a calorie deficit you will lose weight.

    Sure if you want to eat the foods listed that is fine, but they are not going to speed anything up; nor, will not eating them slow your weight loss down.

    calories in vs calories out