Self Discipline and motivation are not the same.

I saw somebody post this on reddit's fitness community when asked what to do when you lose motivation:

"Don't use motivation. It's useless and it comes and goes. Self discipline and responsibility keep you going when you don't want to."

I think it's really important to separate motivation and self discipline. It's one thing to go out and exercise because you are motivated to be healthy and attractive. But for most people, this motivation isn't consistent enough to keep them putting the effort in regularly. Sometimes you just don't feel like exercising, whether you're tired or don't feel like driving to a gym or you whatever, and you aren't really tempted enough by the prospect of a future healthy you. You lose motivation, even if only temporarily. And you lose your consistency just like that.

When that happens (and it does) it's self discipline that catches you. It's not enough to rely on motivation alone. Motivation is helpful--like a bonus force that makes you feel better about putting yourself in the gym or abstaining from eating too much. It's nice when it's there. But self discipline is always available. It's ultimately what you have complete control over, even though it's tough to draw on it sometimes.


Ever since I read this I feel like I understand a lot more about taking action. I didn't really think about it before, and I guess I kind of conflated the two. But now I know that previously, when I went to work out, I was pretty much only guided by motivations that, while admirable, were quite long term. For long term goals like overall health, I needed more than just that motivation, because after a few weeks of tepid results, I'm pretty bummed and my motivation is mostly gone. I needed to summon the self discipline to push on anyway. I didn't consciously think of them as different, so I struggled.

Anyway, my point is that it's important to be self conscious of self discipline for the times when you feel unmotivated. I usually remind myself when feeling unmotivated that my self discipline is being tested, and I then decide to be responsible. Maybe instead of just searching for further motivation when we feel down, we should focus on drawing on our discipline instead.

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  • besaro
    besaro Posts: 1,858 Member
    great post!
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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,057 Member
    I'll disagree here. I've known lots of self disciplined people who hit the gym everyday, eat the same every day and their bodies don't change for the better. Why? Because they lack motivation to be better than they are now.
    A TRULY MOTIVATED person doesn't let any obstacles stop them. There will be days that they aren't up to the energy level or focus needed for improvement and may do a lackluster workout (everyone has gone through this), but move on to the next day.
    People can lose self discipline too. It's rare that anyone doesn't indulge on "no-no" foods they normally don't eat or even skip workouts due to lack of energy or are burned out. What happens to them if they fail with self discipline in those instances? That's where true motivation takes over again.
    I believe they work together in tandem. Self discipline doesn't lead to motivation IMO. I believe it's the other way around.

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  • kayleighlang5
    kayleighlang5 Posts: 34 Member
    Thank you so much for this post!

    I've been feeling a little down because of the so-called "tepid" results I've been experiencing the past couple of weeks. But this concept of self-discipline is something that I haven't thought I was doing. Ironically, the fact that I HAVE self-discipline is a motivation in and of itself for me. :)
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  • besaro
    besaro Posts: 1,858 Member
    I'll disagree here. I've known lots of self disciplined people who hit the gym everyday, eat the same every day and their bodies don't change for the better. Why? Because they lack motivation to be better than they are now.
    A TRULY MOTIVATED person doesn't let any obstacles stop them. There will be days that they aren't up to the energy level or focus needed for improvement and may do a lackluster workout (everyone has gone through this), but move on to the next day.
    People can lose self discipline too. It's rare that anyone doesn't indulge on "no-no" foods they normally don't eat or even skip workouts due to lack of energy or are burned out. What happens to them if they fail with self discipline in those instances? That's where true motivation takes over again.
    I believe they work together in tandem. Self discipline doesn't lead to motivation IMO. I believe it's the other way around.

    go away!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,057 Member
    In my opinion everything starts with motivation, you develop the self disclipline after you have been motivated to do something. It is however a two way street though as I mentioned above. If for some reason you do lack motivation, but still have self discipline, that self discipline will get you through the rough times and as you stated, and tomorrow will be a brand new day.
    It has to start with motivation since if someone was already self disciplined, they wouldn't be embarking on a weight loss plan. I don't disagree that self discipline is needed to be consistent, but it's based on control. Some things people can't control. You get stuck in traffic and that time in it cuts into your gym time and now you have to go home to keep to a routine you have. Or maybe it's one of your kids special games/recital/performance and it's right at your gym time. I don't think we're totally disagreeing, but I believe a truly motivated person will break barriers when self discipline falters. It happens in sports all the time. People with great talent do fine and are average and then you have those who have the odds against them, but are so motivated to be at the top they supercede those who are more talented. It can also happen with people who are attempting weight loss with hormonal or health issues who stay self disciplined and get no results for long periods of time. That's where true motivation comes in to help them persevere and continue even though results aren't what they were hoping for.
    Does motivation falter at times? Definitely, but many don't realize the difference between true motivation and desire. When things aren't going their way, even with great self discipline, they quit. Their motivation wasn't high enough for them to continue.
    I do believe they go hand in hand, but I do believe that true motivation is a bigger factor over self discipline.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,057 Member
    go away!
    Why, because you disagree? Public forum for discussion. Don't like it, don't read it.

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