protein shakes - to drink or not to drink?
cristaldragan
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I have heard a lot of people say that protein shakes are a key item to any weight loss goal. But there are so many out there!! Some have Whey protein, some have Soy.
What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
What do you drink, would you reccomend it, and where can I buy it?
Thanks!!
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What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
What do you drink, would you reccomend it, and where can I buy it?
Thanks!!
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They're not. They're just another way of getting enough protein in your diet if you can't get there by food alone.0
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necessary? no. But many find them helpful.
the intelligent thing to do would probably be to determine how much protein you want to eat. There is no agreed consensus on how much protein is enough. Most people seem to think around one gram per pound of body weight is about right. do your own research.
See how much protein is in the foods you typically eat. it may be that your getting enough protein already. if thats the case, you don't need the shakes at all really, unless there is some convienience need (i want to get protein immediately after a work out, or at my desk at work etc.)
if you deside you want it, i recommend the cheapest stuff that you think tastes ok. the marginal difference in quality between brands does not justify the substantial difference in price. the only time this doesn't apply is if for some reason you need/want isolate over concentrate. the isolate absorbs a lot faster.0 -
The Difference Between Soy Protein and Whey Protein?
Soy protein comes from soybeans, which are legumes (a source of carbohydrates): making it an incomplete protein.
Also, the processing of soy is done by using hexane and other toxic chemicals that are not safe for the body. The human body does not easily absorb soy protein, giving it a low biological value. This means that a significant percentage of the protein passes through the body unused.
Soy is an inferior source of protein to whey protein. Soy has also been linked to increased estrogen levels.
Whey on the other hand doesn’t go through the harmful chemical processing. Whey comes from cow’s milk and is a complete protein that absorbs quickly and easily in the body.
What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
If it's for weight loss - look for a high quality product (no fillers) that you look forward to drinking everyday. If you don't like drinking it, you won't and it won't help you lose weight.
What do you drink, would you reccommend it, and where can I buy it?
You can find answers to most other questions here: https://www.proteinmilkshakebar.com/what-is-whey0 -
Protein shakes are a supplement when you can't hit your protein from regular diet.
Eating enough protein through whole food does the same exact thing.
They aren't necessary, but helpful if you can't reach your macros0 -
As others have said, its not necessary but does help if you cant reach your protein goals. For me, I find it cheaper to just bring a shake to work for lunch and use the free milk at work, and also it contains 42g of protein for 196 calories, so it helps me stay within my calories goal while getting a loads of protein
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False. Soy protein is actually a complete protein. That sounds like propaganda straight from a marketing department. Soy is an excellent protein source. Whey is an excellent protein source. Eggs are better than both of them.The Difference Between Soy Protein and Whey Protein?
Soy protein comes from soybeans, which are legumes (a source of carbohydrates): making it an incomplete protein.
Also, the processing of soy is done by using hexane and other toxic chemicals that are not safe for the body. The human body does not easily absorb soy protein, giving it a low biological value. This means that a significant percentage of the protein passes through the body unused.
Soy is an inferior source of protein to whey protein. Soy has also been linked to increased estrogen levels.
Whey on the other hand doesn’t go through the harmful chemical processing. Whey comes from cow’s milk and is a complete protein that absorbs quickly and easily in the body.
What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
If it's for weight loss - look for a high quality product (no fillers) that you look forward to drinking everyday. If you don't like drinking it, you won't and it won't help you lose weight.
What do you drink, would you reccommend it, and where can I buy it?
You can find answers to most other questions here: https://www.proteinmilkshakebar.com/what-is-whey
And for the record, whey protein usually needs more processing, whey is a natural liquid after all, not very easy to convert a liquid to a powder...0 -
I actually just really enjoy protein shakes. I'll often have one for breakfast just because it's what I want, will fill me up, and keep me feeling full from the protein.
Everyone definitely has a different idea of how much protein a person needs. For whatever reason, at least in the U.S., the message has been that high protein is good (like the person above saying a gram per pound of body weight or a trainer at my gym saying 200 minimum). However, "According to the World Health Organization (WHO), the average 150-pound male requires only 22.5 grams of protein daily based on a 2,000 calorie a day diet, which means about 4.5 percent of calories should come from protein. (WHO recommends pregnant women get 6 percent of calories from protein.) Other nutritional organizations recommend as little as 2.5 percent of daily calories come from protein while the U.S. Food and Nutrition Board’s recommended daily allowance is 6 percent after a built-in safety margin; most Americans, however, are taking in 20 percent or more." (This comes from engine2diet.com, which is about a plant-based diet.)
So you do have to find what works for you, and if you need -- or just want -- protein drinks to be a part it, enjoy!0 -
They're not. They're just another way of getting enough protein in your diet if you can't get there by food alone.
^This.
And I get mine from BodyBuilding.com0 -
False. Soy protein is actually a complete protein. That sounds like propaganda straight from a marketing department. Soy is an excellent protein source. Whey is an excellent protein source. Eggs are better than both of them.The Difference Between Soy Protein and Whey Protein?
Soy protein comes from soybeans, which are legumes (a source of carbohydrates): making it an incomplete protein.
Also, the processing of soy is done by using hexane and other toxic chemicals that are not safe for the body. The human body does not easily absorb soy protein, giving it a low biological value. This means that a significant percentage of the protein passes through the body unused.
Soy is an inferior source of protein to whey protein. Soy has also been linked to increased estrogen levels.
Whey on the other hand doesn’t go through the harmful chemical processing. Whey comes from cow’s milk and is a complete protein that absorbs quickly and easily in the body.
What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
If it's for weight loss - look for a high quality product (no fillers) that you look forward to drinking everyday. If you don't like drinking it, you won't and it won't help you lose weight.
What do you drink, would you reccommend it, and where can I buy it?
You can find answers to most other questions here: https://www.proteinmilkshakebar.com/what-is-whey
And for the record, whey protein usually needs more processing, whey is a natural liquid after all, not very easy to convert a liquid to a powder...
Complete protein is referring to it's biological value (BV) Whey Protein has a BV of 104, Eggs have a BV of 100, Soy has a BV of 74 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_value
Converting liquid to powder is actually very safe & simple with modern manufacturing (baby formula - one of the most highly regulated products on the market is made from whey protein ) https://www.nestle-baby.ca/en/products/explaining_formula.htm0 -
False. Soy protein is actually a complete protein. That sounds like propaganda straight from a marketing department. Soy is an excellent protein source. Whey is an excellent protein source. Eggs are better than both of them.The Difference Between Soy Protein and Whey Protein?
Soy protein comes from soybeans, which are legumes (a source of carbohydrates): making it an incomplete protein.
Also, the processing of soy is done by using hexane and other toxic chemicals that are not safe for the body. The human body does not easily absorb soy protein, giving it a low biological value. This means that a significant percentage of the protein passes through the body unused.
Soy is an inferior source of protein to whey protein. Soy has also been linked to increased estrogen levels.
Whey on the other hand doesn’t go through the harmful chemical processing. Whey comes from cow’s milk and is a complete protein that absorbs quickly and easily in the body.
What should I be looking for? Is there anything specifically I want in my shake?
If it's for weight loss - look for a high quality product (no fillers) that you look forward to drinking everyday. If you don't like drinking it, you won't and it won't help you lose weight.
What do you drink, would you reccommend it, and where can I buy it?
You can find answers to most other questions here: https://www.proteinmilkshakebar.com/what-is-whey
And for the record, whey protein usually needs more processing, whey is a natural liquid after all, not very easy to convert a liquid to a powder...
Complete protein is referring to it's biological value (BV) Whey Protein has a BV of 104, Eggs have a BV of 100, Soy has a BV of 74 Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_value
Converting liquid to powder is actually very safe & simple with modern manufacturing (baby formula - one of the most highly regulated products on the market is made from whey protein ) https://www.nestle-baby.ca/en/products/explaining_formula.htm
Complete means that is contains all essential amino acids not made in the body. Soy has all these which makes it a complete protein.0 -
I must stay away from soy so I do not drink them, but I get plenty of protein from the food in my diet.0
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Sigh... "Complete" and "incomplete" protein has absolutely nothing to do with bioavailability. A protein is considered complete if it contains all 9 essential amino acids, which soy does. It is incomplete if it is missing one or more. Based on your "definition" beef would be an incomplete protein, as it's bioavailability is about the same as soy. Look, please, if you don't know what you're talking about, please educate yourself before making false claims.
Also, for your hexane fear mongering: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2010/04/is_your_veggie_burger_killing_you.html
Unless your extracting the small amounts of hexane out soy, concentrating it for a few months, and then inhaling it, it's not a problem, the digestive system has this organ you may have heard of called the liver, and it can deal with hexane quite easily.
Also, if you're going to make a claim about how "easy and safe" it is to process whey, you really should link to a site that actually explains the technical process of refining whey protein, not to a page advertising babyfood, that offers absolutely no information about your claim at all. Try this one: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/11/08/164687100/you-can-thank-a-whey-refinery-for-that-protein-smoothie *
Please, learn how to debate.
*I just want to make clear that I was never claiming that whey protein processing is any more or less harmful than soy processing, just that both products are highly processed.0 -
You're probably right. I'm just speaking from what has worked for me in terms of weight loss 0
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I eat mainly vegetarian, and I am a student who has a very busy lifestyle. A protein shake mixed with fresh or frozen fruit and some nut milk is an easy on the go meal while still meeting my macros. I think they are tasty too. But there is nothing magical about them for weight loss, some of them can even hinder it by providing as much calories and sugar as a milkshake!
I like Garden of Life Raw protein and Natures Bounty brands. They are not as high protein as some of the isolates (soy, egg whites, or whey) but I like the overall nutrition profile with their fiber, probiotics, and vitamin contents.0 -
It's also been discovered that complete and incomplete isn't an issue as previously thought. Conventional wisdom used to be that you had to eat a complete protein all at once for it to be effective. However, it's since been learned that the body is smart enough to take what we eat for a day and mix and match it up. So even if two incomplete proteins are eaten hours apart, they're still put together for use.0
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Real 'food' is the best. But if you need to supplement to hit your protein target, then protein shakes work. I think Trutein shakes are amazing! Especially Cinnabon and Chocolate Peanut Butter Cup! YUM!0
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In order to gain/maintain muscle mass it is a generally accepted principle to be consuming between 0.6-1.0g of protein per pound of lean body mass, per day. (A 200lb heavily muscled individual should be consuming between 120-200g of protein per day in order to gain/maintain muscle mass.) Many do their best to focus on the higher end of the spectrum.
The source of such protein is less important than actually getting the bulk protein. If you can do it with straight chicken, fish, beef, broccoli and beans then you have no need for protein powders. If you like drinking protein powders, or in my case, eating protein bars, there is nothing wrong with it as long as it's not the only thing you're eating/drinking.
There are several different sources for protein powders including whey, soy, egg, casein, beef, etc. Many protein powders have different blends of each, or different amino acids, or all sorts of different things. Some have varying benefits to others. However, the main thing to remember is that you first need to satisfy the bulk protein requirement before you focus on min/maxing by specific types and sources of protein.
I hear that Optimum Nutrition and Trutein are probably the two best whey blends with the best flavor and solubility.0
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