Eat half your exercise calories

astronomicals
astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
edited February 6 in Fitness and Exercise
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  • FrnkLft
    FrnkLft Posts: 1,821 Member
    Huh? lol

    So is this supposed to be a compromise?
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    No, just an illogical approach.
  • RunBrew
    RunBrew Posts: 220 Member
    So it's illogical to only eat back half your exercise calories, yet somehow its ok for alot of people advocate logging 1.1 servings for the overestimation of calories.

    Interesting.
    ::Chin-stroke::

    For the record, there's no way I'm eating back all my calories.
    I eat what I feel I need to be satisfied. Right now I've eaten 840 total and after an 8-mile run I've burned 875, so I'm in negative calories at 4:30pm . I'm not gonna gorge on a 1900 calorie dinner so it all squares at the end.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    So it's illogical to only eat back half your exercise calories, yet somehow its ok for alot of people advocate logging 1.1 servings for the overestimation of calories.

    Interesting.
    ::Chin-stroke::

    For the record, there's no way I'm eating back all my calories.
    I eat what I feel I need to be satisfied. Right now I've eaten 840 total and after an 8-mile run I've burned 875, so I'm in negative calories at 4:30pm . I'm not gonna gorge on a 1900 calorie dinner so it all squares at the end.

    how did you not realize that was sarcasm when I said go ahead and count it as 1.1 or 1.2? If you read my other posts in that thread, its obvious that I didn't condone it. Both are equally illogical.
  • guroprincess
    guroprincess Posts: 140 Member
    Not understanding the point of being nasty about techniques that might work for people.
  • Sovictorrious
    Sovictorrious Posts: 770 Member
    Oh SNAP!
  • candiceh3
    candiceh3 Posts: 379 Member
    So this thread is just a space for you to be a sarcastic *kitten*?

    Got it.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
    So MFP does not grossly overestimate calories burned? Unless this is just a ****ty way to convince more people to use TDEE -20% I am missing your point.
  • Rage_Phish
    Rage_Phish Posts: 1,507 Member
    swimmingly
  • BeachGingerOnTheRocks
    BeachGingerOnTheRocks Posts: 3,927 Member
    Do you seriously think that calorie counting and exercise burns are numerically accurate? There's a margin of error in all calculations.

    You do the best you can after trial and error, and for a lot of women on here, the exercise calorie burn is way overestimated. I've seen lots of 2000 calorie entries for 2 hour walks. All I can hope is that the people aren't eating those back.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    So MFP does not grossly overestimate calories burned?

    You think it doubles what you realistically burn?
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    No, just an illogical approach.

    i think choosing 50% is completely random, but i don't find it illogical. you've got to set the number somewhere, and as long as people are willing to adjust either their target cals or exercise cals (basically, their total cals) based on results, starting at 50% is as logical as 100% or 25% or 130%.

    This stuff is all much more about guessing and making adjustments than people wish to believe.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    Do you seriously think that calorie counting and exercise burns are numerically accurate?

    No. I don't.


    I've seen lots of 2000 calorie entries for 2 hour walks. All I can hope is that the people aren't eating those back.

    Really? 2000

    @250# and walking 4mph you should burn approximately ~1500 calories in two hours...

    @250# and walking 3mph you should burn approximately ~1100 calories in two hours...
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member

    and as long as people are willing to adjust either their target cals or exercise cals

    This stuff is all much more about guessing and making adjustments than people wish to believe.

    Id prefer target cals/daily goal adjustment. Its a constant.

    Choosing to eat half your exercise calories is a flexing variable. When doing large amount of cardio you're pretty likely to be significantly increasing your deficit when eating at 1/2 of your exercise calories.
  • Lifelink
    Lifelink Posts: 193 Member
    Not understanding the point of being nasty about techniques that might work for people.

    From what I've seen, most posts are like this. I'm with you on this.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    MFP says id burn 551 calories walking 6 miles in 120 minutes at 185#... That sounds like underestimating, not overestimating.

    In contrast runnersworld.com's calculator says I'd burn 839.

    Perhaps I should start eating 52% extra.
  • astronomicals
    astronomicals Posts: 1,537 Member
    Not understanding the point of being nasty about techniques that might work for people.

    If your goal is weightloss and not fatloss, than by all means, a lot of techniques "work".

    I think its a bad approach and that changing your target calories makes more sense. I described why. If you'd like some math and examples I could provide that.
  • DopeItUp
    DopeItUp Posts: 18,771 Member
    So it's illogical to only eat back half your exercise calories, yet somehow its ok for alot of people advocate logging 1.1 servings for the overestimation of calories.

    Interesting.
    ::Chin-stroke::

    For the record, there's no way I'm eating back all my calories.
    I eat what I feel I need to be satisfied. Right now I've eaten 840 total and after an 8-mile run I've burned 875, so I'm in negative calories at 4:30pm . I'm not gonna gorge on a 1900 calorie dinner so it all squares at the end.

    Great plan! I wish you the best of luck in your future hospital stays.
  • RunBrew
    RunBrew Posts: 220 Member

    Great plan! I wish you the best of luck in your future hospital stays.

    Sure thing bud. :drinker:

    Edit: I ate just over 1100 calories in Chkcken Pesto and bowtie pasta, including a slice of pie for dinner.
    What should I eat to fill up the remaining 750 cals so I don't end up in the hospital? :laugh:
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    So MFP does not grossly overestimate calories burned?

    You think it doubles what you realistically burn?

    I've seen tons of people on MFP posting, literally, 10x their actual burns. IMO, for the heavier, newer MFPers, the advice most likely to lead to success is to not eat back any exercise calories at all. I agree that it isn't "logical", on a certain level, but given the demonstrated inability of so many people to get their burns even close to accurate, it is a reasonable solution to the problem.

    Yes, they should learn to do it right. But if they're not going to, then it's alright to show them an alternate path that at least approximates reality.

    IMO, etc.

    I also think MFP makes this needlessly complicated with the whole "net" calories thing - it simply requires too much math for most users. And it's also not correct mathematically, because it means the more you exercise (and eat back), the smaller your deficit becomes as a percentage of TDEE.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    If I only do half the exercise should I eat all of the calories?
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member

    Great plan! I wish you the best of luck in your future hospital stays.

    Sure thing bud. :drinker:

    Edit: I ate just over 1100 calories in Chkcken Pesto and bowtie pasta, including a slice of pie for dinner.
    What should I eat to fill up the remaining 750 cals so I don't end up in the hospital? :laugh:

    What kind of calorie deficit are running on a daily basis? JMO but I don't find running negative calories by 4:30 in the afternoon to be something to giggle about.
  • RunBrew
    RunBrew Posts: 220 Member

    Great plan! I wish you the best of luck in your future hospital stays.

    Sure thing bud. :drinker:

    Edit: I ate just over 1100 calories in Chkcken Pesto and bowtie pasta, including a slice of pie for dinner.
    What should I eat to fill up the remaining 750 cals so I don't end up in the hospital? :laugh:

    What kind of calorie deficit are running on a daily basis? JMO but I don't find running negative calories by 4:30 in the afternoon to be something to giggle about.

    Im not really. I'm basically at maintenance. MFP suggests 1950/day for me at 145lbs...that's proven to be a little more than I need, I usually shoot for 1850-1900.
    My diary is open, but dinner isn't logged yet.
    375 cal B'fast
    380 cal lunch
    280 cal snack.
    -875 cal run
    1100cal dinner.
    short 713 cals.
    NOT HUNGRY.

    Now dinner is logged.
  • cdahl383
    cdahl383 Posts: 727 Member
    I eat the treadmill after I'm done exercising.
  • generallyme2
    generallyme2 Posts: 403 Member
    I wonder how many calories it is if you just eat the desk. Fiber right?
  • DavPul
    DavPul Posts: 61,406 Member
    If I only do half the exercise should I eat all of the calories?

    only if you gave 110% effort
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