Atkins

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  • thegilly6
    thegilly6 Posts: 137 Member
    I guess you have never heard of bodybuilders bulking on a ketogenic diet

    Okay. That makes sense.
  • CardiacKev28
    CardiacKev28 Posts: 172 Member
    Atkins is great as long as you stay on it. Once you stop the weight is coming back. There are better ways out there!
  • Carnivor0us
    Carnivor0us Posts: 1,752 Member
    You're going to gain it back.

    From what I have seen from people that have tried it .. this is exactly what happens. Just seems like a lot of work for a lot of heartache in the end.

    You gain back weight when you stop adhering to any diet. No diet is exempt from this.
  • thmgoodw
    thmgoodw Posts: 49
    I guess you have never heard of bodybuilders bulking on a ketogenic diet

    A bodybuilder bulking on a ketogenic diet would be an extremely rare occurrence. Now, a CKD (cyclical ketogenic diet) is another story. I had a copy of Dan Duchaine's BodyOpus back in the day, and that is exactly what that is. Sites like T-nation also often recommend a CKD. Of course, for a typical CKD where you might carb load for 1.5-2 days a week, you would be in ketosis for only 1-2 days every week.
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    I guess you have never heard of bodybuilders bulking on a ketogenic diet

    A bodybuilder bulking on a ketogenic diet would be an extremely rare occurrence. Now, a CKD (cyclical ketogenic diet) is another story. I had a copy of Dan Duchaine's BodyOpus back in the day, and that is exactly what that is. Sites like T-nation also often recommend a CKD. Of course, for a typical CKD where you might carb load for 1.5-2 days a week, you would be in ketosis for only 1-2 days every week.

    that is beyond the point. the point was you can gain weight on a ketogenic diet.
  • lindustum
    lindustum Posts: 212 Member
    Am I right in hearing you (f) and two men are competing? I hope you measure your loss relative to your bodyweight or the change in difference to the suggested weight- I mean the person who's 50lbs overweight will lose more than someone who's 5lbs overweight, given the same deficit and time period.

    Having to cook dinner because someone else is simply fatter and wins easier would surely bother me- but that said I am competitive :p
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    Am I right in hearing you (f) and two men are competing? I hope you measure your loss relative to your bodyweight or the change in difference to the suggested weight- I mean the person who's 50lbs overweight will lose more than someone who's 5lbs overweight, given the same deficit and time period.

    Having to cook dinner because someone else is simply fatter and wins easier would surely bother me- but that said I am competitive :p

    same deficit by percentage or by number?

    a man who is 235 lbs can have a daily calorie expenditure of 3000 calories. a woman who is 115 can have one of 1500.
    that man if he goes on a 20% deficit will lose lbs faster than the woman at a 20% deficit.

    he can lost a little over a 1 lb a week while still consuming 2400 calories. the woman at a 20% deficit will lose a lb about every 2 weeks.

    If they go as high lets say 1750 deficit (which I have done). Can lose a lb every 2 days. the woman even at a near 50% deficit will be about 1.5 lb a week.


    Now if you take look at the numbers. a 200 lb man losing 20 lbs does not hold as much of an visual impact as a 120 lb woman losing 20 lbs

    one lost 10% of his original weight the other one lost 17%.

    On top of other factors women's weight loss is not as linear as men due to estrogen affecting sodium retention. A competition based off of lbs lost is not fair between a male and a female
  • WyrimoB
    WyrimoB Posts: 1 Member
    I have been on Induction for two weeks. I have done the Atkins 5years ago when I lost 4 stone in a year and stopped, I never regained the same weight I was. I found it helps with curbing the craving for sweet things (my downfall is biscuits) and once I start Atkins the urge just goes away. I am now doing a modified Atkins version with protein and vegetables and I find the weight is coming off though at a slower pace and this is sustainable in the long run.
  • Sharkstamsaw
    Sharkstamsaw Posts: 3
    As far as I know, none of the people in my family that have lost weight on Atkins/low-carb paid any attention to calories either...

    If you understand the explanation behind it, it does make sense, though I doubt most people would realistically need to eat Atkins/low-carb to loose weight.

    As for whether it is or isn't a healthy diet - uhm...how healthy is a low-calorie diet if you only eat s****? It comes down to what you eat, no surprises there. And it's not that hard to get enough fiber and still stay below recommended carb-intake.


    I could never eat that way, I'm too much of a carbojunkie.
  • redladywitch
    redladywitch Posts: 799 Member
    I was on Atkins and lost weight. When I stopped, I gained it all back plus another 35 pounds.

    It was hard on my kidneys. I had some blood work done that told me this.
  • skullshank
    skullshank Posts: 4,323 Member
    You're going to gain it back.

    especially if you're gonna decide to not continue after the first 2 weeks (which sounds like a distinct possibility).

    caloric deficit.
    caloric........deficit.
  • tamiesue2
    tamiesue2 Posts: 149 Member
    I am in the two week induction period of Atkins and I am not seeing what the bad vibe is about, I eat plenty of carbs, just healthy carbs. No breads, pasta, sugars, etc, the diet is based on meats, and veggies, then slowly adding in fruits and dairy. It is a great concept. There are four stages of the program, and while the induction stage is the strictest, it is not set up to be long term. Everyone must take responsibility for what they put into their bodies, if you are shoving fried, breaded foods down your throat, no matter what diet you are on, you are going to fail. The goal is to pick healthier foods over high sugar, high carb processed foods, in a calorie range that works for you, add healthy exercise and say hello to a healthier you. Most people who "stopped" doing something and gained weight generally are the ones, myself included, who stopped eating healthy, who quit exercising regularly. You cant pick up your bad habits and not expect to go back to where you started.
  • Kathryn41057
    Kathryn41057 Posts: 181 Member
    WyrimoB.... you say now that you are doing a modified version of Atkins... can you tell me what you are doing differently? Kat
  • maryRNtobe
    maryRNtobe Posts: 9
    I just wanted to pop in. I had some stressors occur in my life recently and faltered. Gained four lbs back by not following atkins religiously. Trying to get back on track and would appreciate some support
  • ChelleBalady
    ChelleBalady Posts: 204
    Consult with your doctor.
  • mmipanda
    mmipanda Posts: 351 Member
    You're going to gain it back.

    From what I have seen from people that have tried it .. this is exactly what happens. Just seems like a lot of work for a lot of heartache in the end.

    You gain back weight when you stop adhering to any diet. No diet is exempt from this.

    That's silly, are you saying that people need to be on a diet of some form for their entire life?

    I dropped over 20kg when I was 17-18. I am 26 now. I admit that weight started creeping back on in the last year because of a lot of factors coming together (started sedentary desk job, moved in with people who fed me too much pasta and bread, bad reactions to the pill, stress over building house, etc etc). But I managed to keep it off for about 8 years without sticking to any kind of diet.

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