Binge Eating Officially Classified as an Eating Disorder

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  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
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    I know the Daily Fail isn't exactly a scientific/academic source, however the headline bothers me a lot. 'Binge eat? You don't lack will power, dear, you have a psychiatric illness!' I have had an eating disorder since I was 12, and I've shifted for restriction, to bulimia, to binge eating, etc., and I do believe a lack of willpower is a part of binge eating. Willpower comes from the ability to rationalise our thoughts and put emotions to one side, to think logically and realise that our habits aren't right.

    Eating disorders ignore rational willpower and focus on destructive willpower, i.e. someone who says 'I will eat 200 calories a day' succeeds due to willpower, but it is destructive willpower. It is having the will and self-loathing to maintain self-destructive habits on a daily, weekly, monthly and yearly basis. To say binge-eating isn't about a lack of willpower will just fuel the people who use 'I have an eating disorder, not lack of willpower' as an excuse to continue their habits.

    Again, it's the Daily Fail. So no surprise that their article is bullsh*t. However, I'm happy that BED is getting medical recognition. Now time to actually focus on treating all EDs, because it's only going to get harder now that everyone who binge eats will believe they have a mental illness. Ugh.
  • Zombielicious
    Zombielicious Posts: 246 Member
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    Yeah, that was really what I thought was interesting about the article...that it's actually being recognized as a disorder. Unfortunately, I think you're right in saying that a lot of people will use it as an excuse. I will say, however, that they did try and put forth that there is a difference between binge eating and comfort eating....I just think people won't pay attention to that part.
  • watcheronthewall
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    Why do you think people will use it as an excuse? An excuse for what exactly? There is an enomous amount of stigma attached to overeating/binge eating and sufferers are likely to be mocked, labelled as greedy and told "why don't you just stop eating?" Noone wants an excuse to eat themselves into oblivion. It's awful and life-ruining. It's not like people are going to start announcing it as a reason to stuff their faces. Binge eating disorder is quite complex and can manifest itself in different ways. In my case it came about largely as a response to long-term restriction as well as a form of self-medicating.

    I'm not sure what the 'ugh' is for. Do you think bed sufferers are undermining the 'real' ed sufferers?
  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
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    Why do you think people will use it as an excuse? An excuse for what exactly? There is an enomous amount of stigma attached to overeating/binge eating and sufferers are likely to be mocked, labelled as greedy and told "why don't you just stop eating?" Noone wants an excuse to eat themselves into oblivion. It's awful and life-ruining. It's not like people are going to start announcing it as a reason to stuff their faces. Binge eating disorder is quite complex and can manifest itself in different ways. In my case it came about largely as a response to long-term restriction as well as a form of self-medicating.

    I'm not sure what the 'ugh' is for. Do you think bed sufferers are undermining the 'real' ed sufferers?

    I think you should re-read the part where I wrote 'I'm happy that BED is getting medical recognition. Now time to actually focus on treating all EDs' until you understand it, it obviously didn't work the first time
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    TL; DR: Binge eating disorder will now have the same psychiatric importance as anorexia and bulimia.

    IMO, our general approach to these types of issues is fundamentally flawed. The human body evolved specifically to handle cycles of binging/fasting - instead of fighting our natural biology, we should be teaching people with problems how to accept it and work with it.
  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
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    TL; DR: Binge eating disorder will now have the same psychiatric importance as anorexia and bulimia.

    IMO, our general approach to these types of issues is fundamentally flawed. The human body evolved specifically to handle cycles of binging/fasting - instead of fighting our natural biology, we should be teaching people with problems how to accept it and work with it.

    ...So you're saying we should allow people whose eating disorder causes them intense self-hatred and depression, on a daily basis, to just 'accept and work with it' because of our ancestral biology? Oh

    Also, we adapt to our environment. Are (most) of us in the position where we must not eat for days when we scavenge, then finally find food and binge on it to sustain ourselves until our next hunt?
  • LiminalAscendance
    LiminalAscendance Posts: 489 Member
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    Food "addiction."

    Eating to ridiculous excess classified as an eating "disorder."

    Let's see...how many more ways can society find to minimize accountability for overeaters?
  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
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    Food "addiction."

    Eating to ridiculous excess classified as an eating "disorder."

    Let's see...how many more ways can society find to minimize accountability for overeaters?

    There is a difference between overeaters and compulsive binge eaters. I agree that this will cause problems when overeaters start labelling their greed as an eating disorder, but you're forgetting that there are people out there whose binge eating is just as disordered as someone else's bulimia or anorexia
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
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    . double post
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
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    Food "addiction."

    Eating to ridiculous excess classified as an eating "disorder."

    Let's see...how many more ways can society find to minimize accountability for overeaters?

    Far from "minimizing", this diagnosis will allow doctors and patients to set up proper treatment plans. That's the entire point of a diagnosis. If someone gets diagosed and then says "Eh, screw it, nothing to be done," the fault is with them personally, not the diagnosis.

    If you do not understand that a diagnosis is a precursor to developing a proper treatment plan, then you understand nothing and should not be in this discussion.
  • selfepidemic1
    selfepidemic1 Posts: 159 Member
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    It makes sense, a lot of people who are bulimic tend to have the same traits, except they purge it afterwards. A lot of people are addicted to food. I find it annoying how people in this post are like "uh no you have no control!" Except, you don't give an alcoholic a drink every day, but tell him not to drink.

    It happens and it IS disordered eating, it isn't "normal"
  • poesch77
    poesch77 Posts: 1,005 Member
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    Food "addiction."

    Eating to ridiculous excess classified as an eating "disorder."

    Let's see...how many more ways can society find to minimize accountability for overeaters?

    So its "ok" to not be accountable for undereaters or Anorexics? I binge eat....its not overeating. Its binge-ing ALOT. I don't want to put blame on anyone but myself BUT it actually is a sickness I would rather NOT have.
  • kirstenmaria
    kirstenmaria Posts: 112 Member
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    It's been considered an eating disorder in the US for years.
  • lua_
    lua_ Posts: 258 Member
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    It's been considered an eating disorder in the US for years.

    So how's that working out for America, then? Mental illness awareness and treatment is inadequate everywhere, unfortunately
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
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    I thought BED had been on the DSM list for some time now?
  • kirstenmaria
    kirstenmaria Posts: 112 Member
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    I underwent treatment, and feel I'm cured. I can emote normally, and don't rely on binging and crazy chemical imbalances to prevent or deal with emotions. My statement was only to suggest that insurance companies have recognized it and cover treatment and counseling.
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
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    I thought BED had been on the DSM list for some time now?

    Just added as an actual disorder in DSM-5 this year.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
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    ...So you're saying we should allow people whose eating disorder causes them intense self-hatred and depression, on a daily basis, to just 'accept and work with it' because of our ancestral biology? Oh

    I never said anything even remotely like that, and don't appreciate being grossly mischaracterized like that.
  • quirkytizzy
    quirkytizzy Posts: 4,052 Member
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    ...So you're saying we should allow people whose eating disorder causes them intense self-hatred and depression, on a daily basis, to just 'accept and work with it' because of our ancestral biology? Oh

    I never said anything even remotely like that, and don't appreciate being grossly mischaracterized like that.

    Then what did you mean?
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
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    I thought BED had been on the DSM list for some time now?

    Just added as an actual disorder in DSM-5 this year.

    Huh, I must of had "ahead of their time" psychiatrists. I wonder what they were billing for..interesting.