Plateau Busting for the Clean Eater.

TheNewJessieMae
TheNewJessieMae Posts: 767
edited September 22 in Health and Weight Loss
I eat clean, Primal Blueprint.
I have HIT A BRICK WALL over the last couple of weeks. Starting to weigh on me. Leave me any and all ideas please to bust through this hump and quickly!!!!! I only have 10-15 more to go!!! Wanted to be there by Christmas but at this rate I won't. Do I need to step up my exercise? Fast for a day? Eat more cals/less cals? UGH. I'm just frustrated-but I have to admit I haven't been getting much exercise except for cleaning my house........... Maybe that's it......
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  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    how many calories are getting right now? these last 10-15 pounds are the hardest to get. I know, I am right there with you. Trying to eat Primal Blueprint and get my last 15 now. It took me 2 weeks to drop 1 pound on the scale. Make sure you are measuring yourself. The scale is not the only measure of our success. Are you also exercising according to the Primal Blueprint?
  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    Another idea: Cycle in one day a week of eating at or over maintenance by 200-300 calories.
  • meggonkgonk
    meggonkgonk Posts: 2,066 Member
    Idk a lot about clean eating but you could try to incorporate natural diuretics into you fruits and veggies- leeks and grapes. If you eat it with your balanced meals, it might help you push along.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    I found the best way to bust a true plateau (6 weeks or more of a stalled scale) is to change my menu around.
    Maybe it's time to give up on the primal blueprint diet and just eat well.
  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    Eating per the Primal Blueprint is eating well. You do bring up a good point, though, regarding timeframe for a true plateau (2 vs 6 weeks.) Again I urge the OP to measure other things - body measurements, or new PRs (personal records) when exercising.
  • I found the best way to bust a true plateau (6 weeks or more of a stalled scale) is to change my menu around.
    Maybe it's time to give up on the primal blueprint diet and just eat well.

    Well the primal eating style is no my way of life. I wouldn't have it any other way....... I really believe I'm eating how my body wants me to eat.
  • Eating per the Primal Blueprint is eating well. You do bring up a good point, though, regarding timeframe for a true plateau (2 vs 6 weeks.) Again I urge the OP to measure other things - body measurements, or new PRs (personal records) when exercising.

    Just read marks daily apple, and they talk about intermittent fasting...and another girl told me that her paleo nutritionist told her that would help.....

    what do you think?
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    I eat whole, fresh foods. The only thing you'll find in my freezer is ice cubes.
    I guess I don't need a meal plan set out for me, I follow Michael' Pollan's wisdom, it's simple
    and it makes sense:

    "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

    "Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize as food."

    "Don't eat anything incapable of rotting."

    I've found that switching my diet up is what helps me break through a plateau.
  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    I'm personally on the fence regarding intermittent fasting. I've heard pros and cons from those who have done it. I wish I could offer you more on that subject, but I've not done it myself to give firsthand feedback.

    It's taken me a couple months to ease into a primarily grain-free, non-processed diet ala Primal. I had been following MarksDailyApple.com via RSS for a while and just now borrowed the book from a friend. About 3 chapters in and have not finished. I do plan to buy my own copy after next payday =)

    Like you I recently went through a couple weeks where the scale wouldn't go down... it even crept up 1-2 pounds at times. I know that what I am putting into my body is high quality and sub-maintenance in terms of calories, so I just figured this was a brief period where my body needed to work it out. This morning I had a 1 lb drop so I think I was right.
  • hill242
    hill242 Posts: 412 Member
    Croaker, you are pretty much on principle with what is called Primal blueprint. When eating primal/paleo, you eschew processed foods including grains, and eat quality meats, vegetables, nuts, and fruits. I eat a lot of eggs, beef, chicken, pork, veggies of all kinds, almonds, pecans, apples, just to highlight a few things. I would not consider this a fad diet at all. It's definitely the most natural "diet" I've ever done for weight loss, and I really feel like I can stick to it.

    One thing the Primal Blueprint advocates is an 80/20 approach. 80% clean, 20% "cheat". This can mean different things to different people. Some still have to have their beer (guilty). Or maybe it's just having one meal and a snack per week that isn't truly primal.
  • Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    I eat whole, fresh foods. The only thing you'll find in my freezer is ice cubes.
    I guess I don't need a meal plan set out for me, I follow Michael' Pollan's wisdom, it's simple
    and it makes sense:

    "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

    "Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize as food."

    "Don't eat anything incapable of rotting."

    I've found that switching my diet up is what helps me break through a plateau.


    Check it out before calling it a fad!!! It's how cavemen ate!!!! K? No processed foods, lean meats, fruits, veggies, nuts and berrys.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Good to know, thanks for the info. Sounds sort of like the maker's diet to me.
    I just did a little reasearch, it's nice that the primal dude doesn't advocate killing yourself at the gym, that's kind of cool.

    I've been eating whole for a few years now, I guess clean eating is the new buzzword?
    I could never give up grains, just wouldn't work. BUT, I do try and stay away from GMO grains and opt for small production
    batches of flours, for example, to make my own bread. My general rule of thumb is, if I can't make it, I won't eat it.
    Of course, there are exceptions to that rule, like when I get invited over to a friends house for dinner.

    To the original poster, try switching up your menu, add more protein, for example, or add less.
    Change up your snacks, or your breakfasts.
    I'm not an advocate for fasting or cleanses (not that you mentioned a cleanse) really.

    The less you have to lose, the slower it is to come off.
  • Good to know, thanks for the info. Sounds sort of like the maker's diet to me.
    I just did a little reasearch, it's nice that the primal dude doesn't advocate killing yourself at the gym, that's kind of cool.

    I've been eating whole for a few years now, I guess clean eating is the new buzzword?
    I could never give up grains, just wouldn't work. BUT, I do try and stay away from GMO grains and opt for small production
    batches of flours, for example, to make my own bread. My general rule of thumb is, if I can't make it, I won't eat it.
    Of course, there are exceptions to that rule, like when I get invited over to a friends house for dinner.

    To the original poster, try switching up your menu, add more protein, for example, or add less.
    Change up your snacks, or your breakfasts.
    I'm not an advocate for fasting or cleanses (not that you mentioned a cleanse) really.

    The less you have to lose, the slower it is to come off.


    My average protien intake is around 120-150........... you think I'm getting too much?
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    Mark's Daily Apple suggests intermittent fasting: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting/

    Good luck, Girlie! You got this! :-)
  • Mark's Daily Apple suggests intermittent fasting: http://www.marksdailyapple.com/fasting/

    Good luck, Girlie! You got this! :-)


    I saw that!! And if you saw........I said you suggested it.!!!
    I think that's what I'm going to do.... I have my nutrients in for the day....... I'm already good on protien and fiber. I think I'm done until tomorrow at pm snack. that fits right into my today and tomorrow schedule too, because I will be busy and won't think about it anyhow!!!! I'm actually excited!

    Now........... question............ do you drink anything while doing it? water? crystal light? anything?
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    I *think* the daily protein recommendation is somewhere around .36 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight.
    But, I'm not a doctor so I can't speak to what's appropriate for you.

    Processing protein can be hard on the body, even if it's lean & not all animal derived. It just takes more work, that's why we're fuller for longer. It's important, in my opinion, to drink a ton of water to move everything along. Try easing up on your protein, you're clearly getting enough, so it's not going to hurt you if you get a little less for a week or two. You may be suprised by the results.

    I really don't think fasts are necessary, BUT, that's just my opinion.
  • Ely82010
    Ely82010 Posts: 1,998 Member
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    I eat whole, fresh foods. The only thing you'll find in my freezer is ice cubes.
    I guess I don't need a meal plan set out for me, I follow Michael' Pollan's wisdom, it's simple
    and it makes sense:

    "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

    "Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize as food."

    "Don't eat anything incapable of rotting."

    I've found that switching my diet up is what helps me break through a plateau.

    For more information about the Primal Diet (no, I don't follow it), copy and paste the attached link in your browser. You can also go to google.com for more information. Basically, and for what I read, this diet encourage eating raw foods.

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/diet_and_fitness/article5940774.ece
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Now........... question............ do you drink anything while doing it? water? crystal light? anything?
    [/quote]

    You shouldn't ever really deprive your body of hydration. But if you're eating clean, I wouldn't recommend crystal light.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    I eat whole, fresh foods. The only thing you'll find in my freezer is ice cubes.
    I guess I don't need a meal plan set out for me, I follow Michael' Pollan's wisdom, it's simple
    and it makes sense:

    "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants."

    "Don't eat anything your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize as food."

    "Don't eat anything incapable of rotting."

    I've found that switching my diet up is what helps me break through a plateau.

    For more information about the Primal Diet (no, I don't follow it), copy and paste the attached link in your browser. You can also go to google.com for more information. Basically, and for what I read, this diet encourage eating raw foods.

    http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/diet_and_fitness/article5940774.ece

    Thanks for the info, I sort of already did a preliminary search, I'm not really interested in it beyond that.
  • Now........... question............ do you drink anything while doing it? water? crystal light? anything?

    You shouldn't ever really deprive your body of hydration. But if you're eating clean, I wouldn't recommend crystal light.
    [/quote]


    true
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    I've only done the fast once: today. I went from 7 pm last night to 11 am this morning. Wasn't too bad, considering I had my workout during it. 18 hours. I drank water and sugar-less, cream-less coffee...

    I can't speak to its success yet; Won't know until 10/31 - my next weigh-in.

    BUT I've heard that varying your calorie intake can shake a plateau. I'm still fairly new, and am only relating what I've heard and read, so please take my thoughts with a grain of salt - preferably, sea salt, for those Primals. Be well! :-)
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    Everything "different" or "extreme" is not a fad, Sweetie. :-)
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    Everything "different" or "extreme" is not a fad, Sweetie. :-)

    (Sweetie, for real? Ick!)

    I guess you didn't read what else I wrote Platoon?
    Just so we're clear, the primal diet is neither "different" OR "extreme to me"

    I also said it sounds like the Maker's Diet to me, it's not THAT unique of an eating approach as there are other similar diets
    out there.

    I also said I eat "clean" (even though I've never called it that) and have been for a while and when I posted quotes about my style of eating, someone else said that is pretty much what the Primal diet is about.

    But, thanks for your input?
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    Alrighty then... I've never heard of the Primal Diet (or whatever it is, sounds kind of fad-like to me).

    Everything "different" or "extreme" is not a fad, Sweetie. :-)

    (Sweetie, for real? Ick!)

    I guess you didn't read what else I wrote Platoon?
    Just so we're clear, the primal diet is neither "different" OR "extreme to me"

    I also said it sounds like the Maker's Diet to me, it's not THAT unique of an eating approach as there are other similar diets
    out there.

    I also said I eat "clean" (even though I've never called it that) and have been for a while and when I posted quotes about my style of eating, someone else said that is pretty much what the Primal diet is about.

    But, thanks for your input?

    I was not trying to be nasty. I was just stating a fact about a lifestyle that I've embraced. Apparently, written text breeds miscommunication.

    It seems that you were quick to state your opinion; I'm entitled to the same liberty.

    I read your subsequent comments... just stating my 2 cents.

    Good luck with you and yours.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    I didn't see you state any lifestyle preferences, all I saw you state was that some website recommended a fast and that you've tried one fast to day. I didn't know fasting was a lifestyle, muchless that I was knocking it? The only thing I DID say was that I wouldn't recommend fasting. Never said you couldn't, never said the Luv couldn't.

    You, however, took what I said out of context and tried to make it about me saying clean eating, specifically the primal diet, was extreme or different. When in fact, if you had quoted the ENTIRE post, you would see that that wasn't the case.

    *shrugs*
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    Both Luv and I follow the primal lifestyle, which you dismissed almost immediately... ugh. Nevermind.

    Like I said - good luck to you and yours.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    At no point did you say you were a follower of the primal diet, just sayin'.
    You said you tried a fast for the first time today and Luv should try it too. From that, I'm supposed to read between
    the lines and take that to mean you're following the primal diet? Whatever.
    Clearly, you're taking it personally, though, that's not my problem.

    And, to be clear, the FIRST thing I told Luv to do was to try switching up her menu.

    If you want to misquote me and not read my comments in their entirety (you know, the part where I thanked TWO PEOPLE for information about the primal diet), go for it, I can't control what you do.
    But don't pretend like I'm making this about something it's not, when you're the one doing that.
  • platoon
    platoon Posts: 340
    Listen - I'm really not trying to argue with you. Really, I'm not.

    My response (about fasting) was to the original poster, Luv, who is my friend, and knows that I follow the primal lifestyle - which includes fasting at one's discretion...

    I didn't feel it necessary to provide context or explanation to another reader who already expressed disinterest with the primal lifestyle.

    My response to you was a general statement about any "diet" or lifestyle change; it was triggered by your initial response to the primal way. I understand that your statement was made prior to your preliminary research and receipt of information from other posters, BUT I took the liberty of essentially saying that just because something doesn't make sense or appeal to you, doesn't mean that it's temporal in nature, thereby, being ineffective.

    We are all on this journey. And I'll be the first to admit that I don't have everything figured out. But it is and will always be offensive to be judged or criticized because of a certain lifestyle. MFP is not the forum for that.

    Good day.
  • CroakerNorge
    CroakerNorge Posts: 165 Member
    Well, I think if you're going to misquote me, you better be prepared to be judged.
    And, since you conveniently pick and chose those parts of what I said to respond to,
    you should expect it. I back what I said up, you backpedal.
  • edorice
    edorice Posts: 4,519 Member
    Luv - you might want to dial back on the protein. Maybe up the servings for you low glycemic fruits and more veggies.

    Also, cycle your calories each day. 1200, 1600, 1400, 2200, 1200, 1600 then 1400.

    Maybe increase your cardio, do some jogging or your favorite cardio.

    Take care.
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