No Gallbladder and issues with...Candida.

Hi all,
Recently I had a doc tell me that my entire gut was inflamed and full of gas. News to me. I do feel bloated from time to time, doesn't seem to correlate with anything I eat...but I started to connect dots and BAM. I think I have an issue with sugars. I am feeding an overgrowth of yeast!
I had my gallbladder removed in 2009 - when this happened my chemistry was all thrown off and the lack of bile has allowed an overgrowth to occur. I am thinking of trying the candida free diet..wondering if anyone has had a gallbladder removed and tried this and had success? I am constantly in digestive hell - either diarrhea, or gas, no matter how healthy I eat. It's so much fun. :smooched:
I want to know your stories! the plan looks brutal but im willing to try it.

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  • evileen99
    evileen99 Posts: 1,564 Member
    Why do you think you're full of Candida? A systemic fungal infection has pretty serious symptoms; I doubt that you have them.
  • Lu7681
    Lu7681 Posts: 9 Member
    That's what I was worried about, since I had my gallbladder removed in 2009, I've gained weight, all around tired, Diarrhea all the time, and looked like I was about 5 months pregnant b/c of gas. My doctors tried everything. This doctor I went to go see, is actually a chiropractor - but did xrays. all of the gas showed up on the xray - it was up near my ribs and was literally everywhere, the size of half dollars! we did a saliva test that confirmed candida was present. Most likely due to the lack of bile.
    the CAndida free diet would essentially starve the candida and promote healthy flora in the gut. I am just not sure if anyone else has had a correlation between gallbladder removal and this happening?
  • sdotcurll
    sdotcurll Posts: 9 Member
    I had mine removed, but my only side effect was IBS afterward.
  • SmangeDiggs
    SmangeDiggs Posts: 238 Member
    Im pretty sure you still need to kill the fungus causing the overgrowth first by using an antifungal treatment, but if you don't have any actual fungal infection symptoms aside from the mouth test maybe the diet will work?
  • I was tested for Crohn's, IBS, given meds, etc... I found help using essential oils finally. I was having constant bowel issues for 7 months and I went to several specialists, and several meds, but to no avail. In the last month I've been really diligent with getting good exercise, eating better, and even went gluten free, even though my Celiac's test was negative - between the gluten free and the essential oils, I'm now back to normal.
  • go2grrl
    go2grrl Posts: 190 Member
    Had my gallbladder removed a little over 20 years ago. But I never experienced any negative side effects. I wonder if the candida could have another source. Have you taken lots of antibiotics over the course of your life? Had chronic yeast infections? Eat too much sugar? Good luck on the diet. I tried to get my sister to do it because I always suspect she's filled to the brim with candida, but she refuses to do it.
  • callie006
    callie006 Posts: 151 Member
    Have you seen a gastroenterologist? Did your original doctor rule out some type of Post cholecystectomy syndrome? I'm skeptical of the conclusion that the issues are caused by a fungal infection. I don't know what kind of saliva test he did. The one that is circulating the internet about looking at the spit in water just doesn't work. There is also another one that tests for antibodies. I'm guessing that this might be the one you had. The issue with this one is that we all have some yeast on our bodies, so perfectly healthy people often have anti-yeast antibodies.

    You don't really have a lack of bile. Your liver is still making it just fine. You just don't have a place to store and concentrate it. In fact, some animals, like rats and horses, have no gallbladders. When they take out your gallbladder, you actually have bile- albeit less concentrated bile- continuously draining into your intestines. It acts as a laxative, and many people have issues with fat. Some people also need to eat smaller meals more often because your body doesn't do a release of bile to deal with a big meal. With a smaller volume of food at a time, you get a more appropriate mix with available bile.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    You may want to have some blood work done if you are having that many issues with fungal infections it's possible you could be diabetic. It could also be a number of gastrointestinal problems like celiac's, IBS, Chrohn's, ect. I'd talk to the doctor about doing some further lab work and maybe speaking to a GI doc.

    Anecdotally, after my gall removal no problems.
  • pbl1966
    pbl1966 Posts: 207 Member
    I had my gallbladder out last November and had pretty severe IBS issues, mainly while running. Started back on probiotics and have seen a great improvement. Did a little research and the constant bile drip into our intestines can kill off the good bacteria. Good luck finding what works for you.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    That's what I was worried about, since I had my gallbladder removed in 2009, I've gained weight, all around tired, Diarrhea all the time, and looked like I was about 5 months pregnant b/c of gas. My doctors tried everything. This doctor I went to go see, is actually a chiropractor - but did xrays. all of the gas showed up on the xray - it was up near my ribs and was literally everywhere, the size of half dollars! we did a saliva test that confirmed candida was present. Most likely due to the lack of bile.
    the CAndida free diet would essentially starve the candida and promote healthy flora in the gut. I am just not sure if anyone else has had a correlation between gallbladder removal and this happening?

    A chiropractor told you that you didnt make any more bile?! I thought they were at least required to take a basic anatomy class? Thats a bit scary.

    Again, I'd talk to an MD about your issues and have them do some lab work and maybe get you a referral to a GI doctor.
  • trizzell79
    trizzell79 Posts: 153 Member
    Have you seen a gastroenterologist? Did your original doctor rule out some type of Post cholecystectomy syndrome? I'm skeptical of the conclusion that the issues are caused by a fungal infection. I don't know what kind of saliva test he did. The one that is circulating the internet about looking at the spit in water just doesn't work. There is also another one that tests for antibodies. I'm guessing that this might be the one you had. The issue with this one is that we all have some yeast on our bodies, so perfectly healthy people often have anti-yeast antibodies.

    You don't really have a lack of bile. Your liver is still making it just fine. You just don't have a place to store and concentrate it. In fact, some animals, like rats and horses, have no gallbladders. When they take out your gallbladder, you actually have bile- albeit less concentrated bile- continuously draining into your intestines. It acts as a laxative, and many people have issues with fat. Some people also need to eat smaller meals more often because your body doesn't do a release of bile to deal with a big meal. With a smaller volume of food at a time, you get a more appropriate mix with available bile.

    Great advice here!
  • Lu7681
    Lu7681 Posts: 9 Member
    Thank you all for your responses!!
    I did a trial of no sugar/bread type food for 1 week, I felt good, I noticed that when I gradually brought it in - I started to feel bloated almost immediately? Maybe it's not candida but a new allergy?
    The bile is a constant dribble - it's not being secreted when it needs to be, so there is no efficiency in fat emulsification. I feel like no matter what I eat, depending on what is going on internally, it may or may not be a problem for my body to handle. I have had problems after saltines! it just changes from minute to minute. I have had it out for about 5 years now, so post op syndrome is probably not what the issue is.
    Just frustrating...I was told so many times " you don't REALLY need your gallbladder...." UGH! so not true!
    Thanks everyone for your responses, I really appreciate the advice <3
  • Lu7681
    Lu7681 Posts: 9 Member
    You may want to have some blood work done if you are having that many issues with fungal infections it's possible you could be diabetic. It could also be a number of gastrointestinal problems like celiac's, IBS, Chrohn's, ect. I'd talk to the doctor about doing some further lab work and maybe speaking to a GI doc.

    Anecdotally, after my gall removal no problems.

    Thankfully, I don't have anything that you mentioned. I've done more labwork than I knew existed! It's frustrating to pay so much in copays for them to tell me "everything's fine!" They look at you so strange when you are concerned they didn't find anything. like - you should be happy you are fine!
  • DatMurse
    DatMurse Posts: 1,501 Member
    candida is a normal flora found in the body....