Feeding a young child enough protein?

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  • Iron_Duchess
    Iron_Duchess Posts: 429 Member
    My five-year-old daughter does not like to eat to eat meat (chicken, beef, or pork) because she says it takes too long to chew. Yeah, she doesn’t like chewing. On the other hand, she has no problems with beans, lentils, or other grains. So, she ends up eating a lot of rice and some kind of stewed bean most nights. I also try to “mask” the protein within the meal; for example, I take the fish and “flake it” real small, stir it with her beans and she doesn’t even notice it. I also give her vanilla Greek yogurt (cause is the only one she likes), chicken nuggets, string cheese, and scrambled eggs (and yes with her rice and beans.) When she gets really picky, and starts to cry that she doesn’t like it, I ask her to close her eyes and just taste it once; it works every time! She ends up eating most of her meal without a problem because now she knows that it’s about the taste and not the “look” of the meal.
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    - Costco sells Chobani Champions for kids in a tube. It's kinda like Go-Gurt but it's greek yogurt. My kids love this stuff. They love it even more when the yogurt is frozen.

    good luck!

    Ooh, he has actually requested that we buy yogurt tubes "because mommy has them". This is a great idea!

    Also, I remembered he likes bacon... I've cooked kale with bacon before in the hopes that it would make him like it(it didn't work; when I wasn't looking he dumped it in the garbage. lol). Perhaps combining some new proteins with bacon or processed meats that I know he likes would be a good way to introduce them?

    Mmm, never thought about ricotta cheese. I've used it in recipes before and loved it. Don't think he's ever really eaten nuts, although I've noticed that he takes particular interest in foods when I'm eating something different than he is and he hasn't been offered any. Sometimes he asks to try whatever it is, or he asks what it is, or he just stares at me when I'm eating(which makes me feel pretty awkward and uncomfortable. lol). Perhaps that would also be a good way to present new foods? Monkey see, monkey do and so forth?

    It's happened on numerous occasions where he has tried something that we didn't think he'd like because daddy had it on his plate and he wanted to try it because daddy was eating it. I would have thought this would work better with meat, but it hasn't so far. Bacon is the only thing that's worked with.
  • jules77az2004
    jules77az2004 Posts: 24 Member
    Your little guy sounds just like my 3 1/2 year old. Since he's my 2nd. I've learned to quit stressing over "what" he does and doesn't eat. I still get a nagging thought in my head sometimes, but I squash it. His Dr says he's healthy... so I don't stress it. He pretty much eats PB&J every day for at least 1 meal. If he could he'd eat cheese every hour on the hour. He's what I know about him. He eats better when he PICKS what's on his plate (I give him the choices to choose from). he eats better when he helps make his plate. And believe me I know what a time sucker it is. But I try to give him at least 2 meals a day where he gets to do these things. For dinner. I make my kids a "version" of what we are having. So if we are having spaghetti w/ meat sauce I make my oldest plate without the sauce (don't ask she's weird too :) ) and his without large chunks of hamburger. I try to be sure the hamburger is finally mashed or he will throw a fit and tell me he doesn't like hamburger. Sometimes I make a meal for us I can't do this with. So those nights it's something they can make like PB&J or whatever I have planned. And sometimes it all backfires and he refuses to eat any of it. So I refuse to give him anything to eat until the next meal. Cause he is a stubborn little bird and will go all day without eating just because he's testing me. And I just put his plate in the fridge and let him know it's there any time he wants it, but that's all there is. And he's just stubborn enough not to eat it. hahahaha!!! Kids can not control a lot of things, but anything they can put in their bodies is something they CAN control, so they do. I give them a limited amount of time to eat because an hour and 1/2 will not get any more in their bellies than 30 minutes will. If they honestly will eat they'll do it quickly. And I don't have a set time, it honestly depends on them. Sometimes they honestly eat in 20 minutes, sometimes they honestly take an hour with no playing. Once the playing starts I give them 1 reminder to eat and not play. After that meal time is over. Every kid is different and you might have a lot more on your hands than just the normal pickiness because of your family situation (2 households for him). Find healthy options for the things he does like (there are tricks to make plain yogurt taste better without sugar) and find a way to get him to agree to TRY what you're eating. I require 1 bite before I make something else, but I always have a backup plan for the times they won't or end up not liking it :) And I smother lots of things with a serving of cheese to mask it :) Good luck :)
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    I give them a limited amount of time to eat because an hour and 1/2 will not get any more in their bellies than 30 minutes will. If they honestly will eat they'll do it quickly. And I don't have a set time, it honestly depends on them. Sometimes they honestly eat in 20 minutes, sometimes they honestly take an hour with no playing. Once the playing starts I give them 1 reminder to eat and not play. After that meal time is over.

    I think this is the something I'll try. Like I said, he picked at the plate of food for an hour without eating more than a few bites, but he inhaled TWO grilled cheese sandwiches in under 20 minutes. It was very impressive, I will admit. I also have to accept that he's a lot more strong-willed than I am. :wink:
  • gabbygirl78
    gabbygirl78 Posts: 936 Member
    http://www.heartspring.net/list_of_vegetarian_protein_foods.html

    here is a list of high protein foods besides meat...Maybe there are some foods he likes on here
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    Greek yogurt! My brother eats plain greek yogurt with honey and chocolate chips. Remember that little kids dont really need that much

    True. More than anything, it's a matter of trying to introduce foods now so they're not a surprise when he does start to need more protein. So yeah, I suppose a piece here and there makes the most sense.

    His mom finally got back to me about it. I texted her this morning to ask about mealtimes in their house and she gave me some suggestions. She has two older kids, so this ain't her first rodeo. She says he's probably just going through a phase because the stuff he won't eat with me he has eaten with them recently. She also suggested not giving him a snack after he comes home from daycare and only giving him water between then and supper. Usually when he comes home, I serve supper right away, but perhaps waiting is a good idea because he'll be a little hungrier and more willing to try something new. I asked her what time they serve supper at their house so we can make it consistent at both houses.
  • 9thChakra
    9thChakra Posts: 141 Member
    Hello, shininglight.

    Your stepson does not sound "weird" to me at all. In fact, he seems to be a wonderfully healthy eater as of right now. Fat and sugar are acquired (and addictive) tastes that are hard to reverse once started. By eating healthy carbs (i.e. sugars) like broccoli, his brain and body can function really well.

    Some other things to consider:

    1 cup of broccoli has 5.1% RDA (recommended daily allowance) of protein (and that's likely an adult recommendation) along with a TON of other good benefits:

    http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=9

    Also, it is extremely rare for Americans to be protein deficient:

    http://www.livestrong.com/article/498112-how-common-is-protein-deficiency/

    Also, doctor's actually know very little about nutrition:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/16/health/16chen.html

    If you have concerns you may want to get some recommendations from a nutritionist, specifically one that specialized in pediatric nutrition.

    Here an interesting site I just found that may give you more educated answers than what you'd find in a forum:

    http://www.healthychildren.org/english/healthy-living/nutrition/Pages/default.aspx

    Best to you!

    9thChakra
  • elliej
    elliej Posts: 466 Member
    Ulimately you and his dad should be talking to his pediatrition. While vegetarian is an ok way to go, it's hard to get "complete" proteins where you're getting all the amino acids so although you may pick higher protein alternatives, he could still be missing out on some vital nutrients. I only know a little about this because one of my co-workers has a daughter that's a vegetarian and they need to be conscious of making sure she's eating correctly.

    Okay, I don't want to start a fight here, but I've been vegetarian since birth and never had any nutrition or health issues. My parents did not struggle with, or have to be concious of, feeding me in anything other than a normal parental way. I ate a lot better than friends who were given a macdonalds for dinner. Also they got to be certain that I wasn't going to get BSE when that beef scare happened in the 90s. Also there is nothing 'incomplete' about the protein that comes from non meat sources.
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    Ulimately you and his dad should be talking to his pediatrition. While vegetarian is an ok way to go, it's hard to get "complete" proteins where you're getting all the amino acids so although you may pick higher protein alternatives, he could still be missing out on some vital nutrients. I only know a little about this because one of my co-workers has a daughter that's a vegetarian and they need to be conscious of making sure she's eating correctly.

    Okay, I don't want to start a fight here, but I've been vegetarian since birth and never had any nutrition or health issues. My parents did not struggle with, or have to be concious of, feeding me in anything other than a normal parental way. I ate a lot better than friends who were given a macdonalds for dinner. Also they got to be certain that I wasn't going to get BSE when that beef scare happened in the 90s. Also there is nothing 'incomplete' about the protein that comes from non meat sources.

    Yeah. Frankly, I don't care about vegetarian vs. not. If that's what he'll eat, then of course that's fine with me. Like people above have said, they don't need much protein at this age. The issue is him eating what the family eats. When he's old enough to make his own food choices and prepare his own food, he can eat however the hell he wants.

    I don't find vegetarianism to be all that difficult, really. I have my days where I don't eat meat at all because it's a pain to prepare it. I eat enough cheese, eggs, and yogurt to more than make up my protein requirements, as well as things like chickpeas. That's out of pure laziness, though. Like I say, it has nothing to do with me wanting him to eat a certain way or a certain diet and everything to do with me thinking he has to accept the social aspects of eating, and often that means eating what other people eat. I have a cousin who, at 10 years old, went to a buffet with us and ate nothing but tater tots. Yeah... that ain't gonna be my kid.
  • fromnebraska
    fromnebraska Posts: 153 Member
    Vegetables do have protein. And he doesn't need as much protein as an adult would. Why don't you start keeping track of his protein intake? You might be surprised how much protein he is actually getting from his diet.
  • fromnebraska
    fromnebraska Posts: 153 Member
    Cooking for a family with different nutritional needs is so complicated... His dad complains that the food is too high in some macronutrient, usually fat(make your own damn food if you're not happy with it), but if it's higher in protein due to the addition of meat, his son won't eat it, and I can't eat the pasta/bread-based dishes that they both can. >.<

    I eat a plant-based diet and my husband does not. Most of my meals that I prepare are made up of a grain (usually brown rice or quinoa), a veggie protein (black beans or chickpeas usually), vegetables, and then a piece of meat for my husband. That way my husband feels like he is getting a non-vegetarian meal and I am more than satisfied with my meal. These meals can be quick to prepare too--frozen brown rice, a can of black beans, frozen vegetables and 2 sausages. With a meal like the one I described, your whole family should be happy because they can choose the foods that they would like to eat.
  • Lleldiranne
    Lleldiranne Posts: 5,516 Member
    You can check out the WHO guidelines/recommendations for protein if you are worried. But I seem to remember that the essential protein, at least to avoid kwashiorkor (malnutrition from inadequate protein) is actually quite low. Chances are he gets enough protein from other sources.

    Peanut butter, cheese, nuts, beans, etc. All have good protein. It's completely possible to get sufficient protein without eating meat (vegetarians do it all the time). Look into complementary proteins, but I think the consensus now is that as long as he gets the different sources through the day (not necessarily just one meal) he should be ok. And I wouldn't worry about the fats from these protein sources unless he is overweight. Eating fat isn't going to make him fat, and even some saturated fats are okay.
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    Vegetables do have protein. And he doesn't need as much protein as an adult would. Why don't you start keeping track of his protein intake? You might be surprised how much protein he is actually getting from his diet.

    You know, I've never actually asked what he gets fed when he's at daycare. They serve the kids lunch, and I've been meaning to ask what he eats there. I have to assume it's heavily bread-based because that's cheap and kids will eat it, but it wouldn't hurt to ask. Everyone on the thread has certainly alleviated my concerns, and as I said, I got some great advice from his mom.
  • abeare
    abeare Posts: 504 Member
    I was the same way as a child, drove my parent nuts because they were of the generation where you had to have on your plate a protein, starch, and a vegetable (steak, potato, peas). Never liked meat though and became a vegetarian an my teens. Now my son seems to be the same (my husband eats meat and so he`s tried to feed it to our son). There are many protein alternatives, legumes are my favorite source of protein. Don’t worry too much about protein, there’s lots of it in many other sources, but do pay attention to B vitamins as those are harder to find in non-meat alternatives.
  • shining_light
    shining_light Posts: 384 Member
    But do pay attention to B vitamins as those are harder to find in non-meat alternatives.

    Off topic: Have you ever seen someone who's had basically an overdose of B-vitamins? It's hilarious because everything is sunshine and rainbows like they're high. My sister was raving about how she "f***ing loves egg whites!!". I don't remember how we figured out that it was the excessive amount of B-vitamins that she was consuming that was doing this to her, but she was a lot of fun to be around because she was so unbelievably excited about everything...
  • rbcrawford1
    rbcrawford1 Posts: 29 Member
    I have a five year old and an almost three year old, so I get having them eat what the family eats, but that usually means I cook something I know they should like or at least have liked in the past (it can definitely change day to day and it can take a while to figure out what is a go and what is a no-go!). Remember their little palates are more sensitive to ours and textures can be problematic. I think I survived on cheese alone for a good three years as a kid, and I am an adventurous eater these days. My general rule is that if I am preparing something that they have liked in the recent past or whose components I know they like, they don't get a different option. If I am presenting something for the first time, I ask that they try it and I'll make a PBJ or offer a bowl of cereal if they genuinely don't like it.

    Whole grain pasta has great protein, as does high quality bread (Dave's Killer Bread is a favorite around here).

    Also, think of dishes you can easily add meat to for the grown ups. My older one went through a vegetarian phase because he didn't want to eat animals--I didn't want to override his perfectly legitimate conviction, so it would be, say, cheese and spinach quesadillas for him while we had chicken, cheese, and spinach quesadillas.

    I've had great success with using tortillas, whole grain pasta, or Annie's mac & cheese as bases for complete meals. We just add a veggie, cheese, and some sort of meat (pepperoni, ham, cubed chicken breast, flaked salmon, or good ol' canned tuna). Everybody wins, and it's easily customizable.

    Good luck!