"Regular Women" in Lingerie....Opinions?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/20/regular-women-lingerie-photos_n_4308760.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-living&ir=Canada+Living&icid=maing-grid7|canada|dl1|sec1_lnk2&pLid=409853


Thoughts?

Snort :laugh:

I'm so inspired to be regular now, so glad they reminded me of that, anybody have a cupcake or three?

Oh. I thought this would be 'average' sized women (You know, size 6-8-10-12? The often over looked 'inbetween' sizes? Because you're either teeny tiny or large, but that middle ground can't get so much as an acknowledgement let alone a lingerie campaign) but it's actually women on the larger size. I see.


Average sized chicks, forgotten again. /kicks rocks

We're freaks! What's wrong with us for exercising and eating reasonable amounts of food? How did we let it get this bad?!

That's why my goal is a size 2 or 4! Then I can be real and important and stuff! No longer will I be a woman rendered invisible because I'm actually average!

I'm a size 4 and I'm still pretty dang average.

:laugh:

This is horrible. Women are either photoshopped to look anorexic (and even models that are already super thin YES...I work in fashion and I have seen it first hand!) or we are now perpetuating the idea that obesity is "normal"? What is wrong with our society? It makes me sick. Either extreme is very unhealthy. Why can't we promote real women in all of our pear, apple, mix-matched shaped bodies that we have? THAT would be real and healthy, not ads like these that are obviously a joke.

FYI not only are photographs photoshopped but also videos and film! YES all those actresses and actors are not as perfect as they seem on camera or on film. When I learned this, I was shocked because I thought at least with film that it was capturing something real. Nope. Wrong , once again.

Oh. I thought this would be 'average' sized women (You know, size 6-8-10-12? The often over looked 'inbetween' sizes? Because you're either teeny tiny or large, but that middle ground can't get so much as an acknowledgement let alone a lingerie campaign) but it's actually women on the larger size. I see.


Average sized chicks, forgotten again. /kicks rocks

We're freaks! What's wrong with us for exercising and eating reasonable amounts of food? How did we let it get this bad?!

That's why my goal is a size 2 or 4! Then I can be real and important and stuff! No longer will I be a woman rendered invisible because I'm actually average!

I'm a size 4 and I'm still pretty dang average.

A 2 then!

....*ahem*

I'm actually pretty content with a 6. Which I guess means I've been complacent with my irregularity? Oh no!

I just can't help wondering if you woke up with all your muffins this morning. :laugh:

My 2cents. Obese women (like myself) have to go through endless messages of not being "regular" every day. Go to your local mall, how many stores actually hold clothes bigger than a large? No really, go check! It's not many at all. So if people REALLY think that this one article (which is from a plus size clothing store btw) is going to suddenly change the stereotype and make skinny people feel ostracized in the same way that fat people feel every day, you're dead wrong. Also, I'm tired of hearing the term "glorifying obesity" when we literally worship fashion models in this country (and all over the world) even though it's estimated that up to 40% of them have an eating disorder. What's the difference? People find skinny people to be attractive, and fat people to be unattractive, because that's what the culture has trained you to see. No, you don't care about the "obesity epidemic", no you aren't actually worried about these women's health, no you don't have good intentions for saying that fat people shouldn't be in the media because it "glorifies obesity"..you just don't want to see it because you think it's ugly (even if you don't realize it).

That all being said. The average woman in America is a size 14, so our models should be around that size. The models in fashion now are not close to a size 14 and the women in this article are not close to a size 14. If you want to show "regular women" in lingerie show women from about a 12 to a 16 size.

I think it was focusing on what is left out. Bigger bodies aren't shown much while fit and thin is what is "ideal". Like a campaign showing same sex couples but leaves out straight because the point is to show the under privileged party. I think the name 'regular women" is misleading

Yeah, I understand the purpose, but they need a new title. And show a variety of women, not just bigger bodies.

If you read the article or watched the video, you will see that the mission was:

"Inspired by a customer, I wanted to show that women with rolls, bumps, lumps, scars, stretch marks, surgery scars and natural breasts that have nursed babies can be stunning and beautiful."

I don't see any fit/thin shaming there.

What is not 'regular' is a size 4 being considered "plus size".

Oh. I thought this would be 'average' sized women (You know, size 6-8-10-12? The often over looked 'inbetween' sizes? Because you're either teeny tiny or large, but that middle ground can't get so much as an acknowledgement let alone a lingerie campaign) but it's actually women on the larger size. I see.


Average sized chicks, forgotten again. /kicks rocks

We're freaks! What's wrong with us for exercising and eating reasonable amounts of food? How did we let it get this bad?!

That's why my goal is a size 2 or 4! Then I can be real and important and stuff! No longer will I be a woman rendered invisible because I'm actually average!

I'm a size 4 and I'm still pretty dang average.

A 2 then!

....*ahem*

I'm actually pretty content with a 6. Which I guess means I've been complacent with my irregularity? Oh no!

I just can't help wondering if you woke up with all your muffins this morning. :laugh:

Ah, I made brownies last night. He never eats those.

Why is there an assumption that allowing fat people to feel good about there bodies will discourage them from losing weight? I didn't start taking control of my weight because I felt like crap, it was the opposite, I had to start feeling good about myself, to start feeling worth something, before I could start losing weight. I hear a lot of stories of people who felt the same way. So why are we so afraid of letting people love themselves? It will only help.

Meh, I don't like it. It seems to me they are saying if you are in shape, or thin then you aren't "regular". Maybe if they showed women of all body types.

exactly

Personally, I'd be happy to live the rest of my life without anyone describing me as "regular." I can't think of a less flattering adjective.

I'd love to be called normal... I mean... regular... Just once. ONCE!

It's on now!

Glorifying obesity and alienating women with smaller body types. Really inspirational. Thanks Huff Post!

That seems to be the new thing now. When you think about it, people who take care of themselves are the minority. Hell, a lot of the times it is frowned upon. "You don't need to eat that, you are already thin", but they don't think that the reason you are thin is because you are eating "that" and not junk.

Agreed! Same with exercise. I'm told that I don't need to exercise so much because I'm already healthy (I don't even think I do exercise a lot). It seems to escape people that I'm healthy because I exercise. It drives me crazy.

Claiming something is degrading skinniness in today's photoshop society sounds, quite frankly, a little....weird to me.

Skinny is obviously what everyone is told they have to be in order to be attractive (health benefits aside - obviously; since I'm here and you should be able to tell by my ticker that I believe strongly in healthy change). Saying they're discriminating against thin people with this is kind of like the people who are saying the rich white male is in danger of losing his rights if everyone else gets equality. Um...no - not in the current American cultural environment.

The privileged/idealized few aren't made lesser by a celebration of a different group of people. I don't care if we're talking about a gay pride parade or black history month (and i'm neither homosexual or African American); also I'm fairly sure the 'regular' in the title was meant to reference the non-lingerie models out there - which is pretty much 99% of women no matter how fit we are;.that's what I took from the statement about plus sized models still being models. Did they chose the least model-y images for their ad to increase the impact of the message? Probably - that's what marketing/journalism is supposed to do.

I don't want to generalize, but I think we can all agree that the modeling industry is a pretty competitive career track that probably leads some people to participate in fairly unhealthy practices to stay within a very narrow, sometimes unrealistic, set of physical parameters and then enhances the illusion of perfection beyond what is actually physically possible with an inordinate amount of retouching and airbrushing. Is promoting impossibilities as the gold standard of attractiveness really worse than letting obese people into a lingerie ad?

Just my two cents.