Gym help please!!
jesstaylor21
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Hi Everyone *Waves*
My names Jess and I'm a complete gym addict.... tehehe no on a serious note once i start i want to go everyday for as long as possible but my little one has to come first so i usually go 3 times a week for a couple of hours. I try and mix it up a little but i am struggling to know what to do in terms of reaching my goals, if anyone could help it would be much appreciated as i don't want to waste what little time i get to work out doing the wrong things
Current Gym routine
Monday - Spin 45 minute class & toning exercises such as squats, planks, squat holds, leg raises, glute bridge things!!
arm exercises with weights. V-sit holds, crunches, bicycle abs, V-sit twists.
Wednesday - 45 min Legs bums and tums class (normally circuits involving weights and a bit of cardio) & 45 minute spin class
Friday - 20 Mins on treadmill changing between jog & fast walk (recovering from knee injury) 15 mins on stationary bike doing intervals of fast and medium, toning exercises same as Monday.
My Goal is to loose weight from 176.6lbs down to 140lbs and tone my inner thighs, stomach and arms.
Thanks in advance x
My names Jess and I'm a complete gym addict.... tehehe no on a serious note once i start i want to go everyday for as long as possible but my little one has to come first so i usually go 3 times a week for a couple of hours. I try and mix it up a little but i am struggling to know what to do in terms of reaching my goals, if anyone could help it would be much appreciated as i don't want to waste what little time i get to work out doing the wrong things
Current Gym routine
Monday - Spin 45 minute class & toning exercises such as squats, planks, squat holds, leg raises, glute bridge things!!
arm exercises with weights. V-sit holds, crunches, bicycle abs, V-sit twists.
Wednesday - 45 min Legs bums and tums class (normally circuits involving weights and a bit of cardio) & 45 minute spin class
Friday - 20 Mins on treadmill changing between jog & fast walk (recovering from knee injury) 15 mins on stationary bike doing intervals of fast and medium, toning exercises same as Monday.
My Goal is to loose weight from 176.6lbs down to 140lbs and tone my inner thighs, stomach and arms.
Thanks in advance x
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I think guidelines work better then just providing a breakdown of routines. These are what I find to provide the best results for both maintaining/gaining muscle as well as dropping the body fat.
1) Lift Heavy, shooting for set/rep ranges of 3-5 sets of 6-10 reps. (The goal is to fail on the last 1 or 2 of each set)
2) Incorporate as many compound lifts as you can. The more compound lifts, the better.
3) Ever heard of supersets? They are pretty much amazing. Incorporate these into every routine. For instance, do Back and Chest on the same day. A Compound Superset would look like Bench Press followed immediately by Bent Over Rows.
4) Safe cardio for after weight lifting, and ideally seperated by a period of a few hours, although this isn't necessary.
5) Do HIIT Training 1-2 times a week.
6) Drink Water, Eat Protein
Just my 2 pennies0 -
Since your gym time is limited, if I were you I would switch to lifting weights (either on machines or not--I am seeing lots of progress as a newbie just using the circuit machines, even though some on this site look down on that). You could do the "toning exercises" at home on other days whenever you can fit it into your day, since no special equipment is needed.0
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Thanks guys, I do use the machines every session too i just don't know the names of them lol!
Benjamin with regards to lifting heavy with sets what sort of lifting should i be doing (sorry not really dn=one a lot of weight training so have no clue what ones are best)
I use the weight machines but free weights iv only really used dumbbells for arm exercises and a weighted ball for ab exercises!
Whats HIIT training and super sets?
I'm not wanting to build muscle per say just shred the excess weight and tone the areas that are 'wobbly' haha
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For Lifting I recommended Compound lifts. You can google for a more complete listing of these but basically, they are lifts which incorporate multiple muscle groups. Such as Squats, Deadlifts, Bench Press, Dips, Pull Ups (Or Lat Pull Downs) Etc. These types of lifts will work a larger portion of your body in the same motion resulting in a higher heart rate which can boost calories burned. Ideally, do as many free weight lifts as possible. You can google some good free weight compound lifts which would provide more then I ever could.
Supersets are basically working out opposing muscle groups back to back with no resting. I think I mentioned as an example Chest and Back. A superset of this would look like. Bench Press then immediately do a set of Bent Over Rows followed by a 30 - 90 second rest. There should be no resting between the two sets and should be in a way looked at as one set.
HIIT stands for High Intensity Interval Training. When you work out at low intentisy, you are burning a portion of calories. When you work out at higher intensities you are not only burning calories, but you are boosting what is called EPOC (Excess Post-Exercise Oxygen Consumption) which will burn calories at an increased rate for hours after you actually work out. You don't need to concern yourself too much with what this is or how many calories you burn through EPOC. Just know that performing HIIT 1-3 times a week can really help fat loss. So what is HIIT? It means that you are cycling short durations of high intensity training with slightly longer times of lower intensity training. Such as Sprinting for 20 seconds, resting for 40 seconds. Many people will debate the perfect timings, but this is just an example.
If your goal is that you are trying to lose weight, then nothing is more important then your diet. Ensure you are at a caloric deficit every week. Do your cardio and lifting and you'll reach your goals. And as an FYI, just because you lift heavy, does in no way mean you will get enormous muscles. Bodybuilding women do not look like that because they lift a little and neither will you.
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Thanks guys, I do use the machines every session too i just don't know the names of them lol!
Benjamin with regards to lifting heavy with sets what sort of lifting should i be doing (sorry not really dn=one a lot of weight training so have no clue what ones are best)
I use the weight machines but free weights iv only really used dumbbells for arm exercises and a weighted ball for ab exercises!
Whats HIIT training and super sets?
I'm not wanting to build muscle per say just shred the excess weight and tone the areas that are 'wobbly' haha
Thanks again
1. Check out the books "New Rules of Lifting for Women" and "Starting Strength."
2. If you are trying to lose fat and be leaner/look better, strength training and strict control of your diet is far more important than cardio. Cardio is good for heart and lung health, but most people try to use it as a band-aid for creating a calorie deficit. Lifting is far more useful because the heavy stimulus on your muscles will signal your body to hold onto the lean mass you have and burn fat instead as long as you are in a deficit.0 -
barbell/dumbbell > machines.
HIIT = High Intensity Interval Training0 -
Thanks that's really helpful i shall check out the books and also some compound lifts. I do HIIT on the bike and in spin class also on the treadmill normally 2 mins on 1 min off 3 mins on 1 minute off etc. is that too long time wise?
As for keeping a calorie deficit this is were i get a bit confused my daily limit is 1482 im assuming deficit is anything under that? so im usually a 100 or so below that but if i work out i normally gain back between 300-500 calories do i need to eat these or not?
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Thanks that's really helpful i shall check out the books and also some compound lifts. I do HIIT on the bike and in spin class also on the treadmill normally 2 mins on 1 min off 3 mins on 1 minute off etc. is that too long time wise?
As for keeping a calorie deficit this is were i get a bit confused my daily limit is 1482 im assuming deficit is anything under that? so im usually a 100 or so below that but if i work out i normally gain back between 300-500 calories do i need to eat these or not?
Thank You Again!
No, 1482 (assuming that is the number MFP gave you) already has a deficit built into it. You should be eating to that number, not necessarily trying to stay below it. And yes, you should eat back your exercise calories (again assuming you are using the MFP method), though I would personally only eat back 1/2-2/3 of exercise calories if you are using MFP to calculate burn because it tends to overestimate. So, if you exercise and burn 400 calories, you would eat a total of 1682 calories that day (or close to it at least).0 -
No it's TDEE not MFP calculations Had some help via a friend to help work it out so not sure if that has a deficit built in or not?
Ok i have been eating a small amount back so maybe eat a bit more of it back.0 -
Whether or not it has exercise built into your TDEE calculation is dependent entirely on what multiplier you used when you figured it out. Personally I don't use MFP's calculations to log any sort of calorie burns; I use an entirely different website to figure out my caloric needs and add a set amount to my diet on days I hit the gym. I don't do cardio, either, though, so there's that.0
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No it's TDEE not MFP calculations Had some help via a friend to help work it out so not sure if that has a deficit built in or not?
Ok i have been eating a small amount back so maybe eat a bit more of it back.
If it's TDEE then you don't need to eat anything back as it's already calculated for you. I would recommend having your friend show you how s/he calculated it and keep this number up to date. Update it for every few lbs you gain or lose.0 -
Thanks that's really helpful i shall check out the books and also some compound lifts. I do HIIT on the bike and in spin class also on the treadmill normally 2 mins on 1 min off 3 mins on 1 minute off etc. is that too long time wise?
As for keeping a calorie deficit this is were i get a bit confused my daily limit is 1482 im assuming deficit is anything under that? so im usually a 100 or so below that but if i work out i normally gain back between 300-500 calories do i need to eat these or not?
Thank You Again!
You don't NEED to do HIIT with cardio equipment- you can set it up with an interval timer and include some weights- it's just a WAY of working out- it's not limited to cardio only- so keep that in mind.0 -
Thanks guys, I do use the machines every session too i just don't know the names of them lol!
Benjamin with regards to lifting heavy with sets what sort of lifting should i be doing (sorry not really dn=one a lot of weight training so have no clue what ones are best)
I use the weight machines but free weights iv only really used dumbbells for arm exercises and a weighted ball for ab exercises!
Whats HIIT training and super sets?
I'm not wanting to build muscle per say just shred the excess weight and tone the areas that are 'wobbly' haha
Thanks again
You don't have to worry about building muscle. Building muscle is EXTREMELY hard, you might put on a liitle bit through noob gains if you start lifting heavy, but outside of that the heavy lifting is only going to maintain the muscle mass you have, so you are losing mostly fat instead of fat and muscle.
Gaining muscle takes hours of training, the correct diet (a moderate surplus of calories), and testosterone tends to help . With being a female, you're actually behind the 8 ball when it comes to putting on muscle mass.0 -
If you're using TDEE, you don't eat back exercise calories because they are built in. However, that sounds incredibly low for someone using TDEE. How big is the deficit your friend calculated?
I don't know your height, but putting in your other stats and 5'3" as height shows TDEE for maintenance as 2214. That means a 20% deficit (which is pretty significant) would be 1771. I think your friend calculated your TDEE wrong.0 -
You don't have to worry about building muscle. Building muscle is EXTREMELY hard, you might put on a liitle bit through noob gains if you start lifting heavy, but outside of that the heavy lifting is only going to maintain the muscle mass you have, so you are losing mostly fat instead of fat and muscle.
Gaining muscle takes hours of training, the correct diet (a moderate surplus of calories), and testosterone tends to help . With being a female, you're actually behind the 8 ball when it comes to putting on muscle mass.
I hate how true this is.
grumble grumble grumble.0 -
i'm 5'2" almost 3" and i focus on weight lifting. i always end my workouts with 20 min on treadmill at a very fast walk. But i spend an hour lifting weights. I know for me the trick to building muscle to look toned is to make sure ur squeezing your muscles and executing the workout right
when i do tricep extensions i tighten my muscles and try to make my arm as straight as i can so that im getting the maximum benefit of the exercise
if you're lifting weights you will burn fat and increase your metabolic rate but if you're sloppy with your execution you won't really be building muscle to "sculpt" your body.
also make sure u lift the heaviest weight you can with only being able to do 10-12 reps. if you can do 30 reps than the weight is way too light.0 -
i'm 5'2" almost 3" and i focus on weight lifting. i always end my workouts with 20 min on treadmill at a very fast walk. But i spend an hour lifting weights. I know for me the trick to building muscle to look toned is to make sure ur squeezing your muscles and executing the workout right
when i do tricep extensions i tighten my muscles and try to make my arm as straight as i can so that im getting the maximum benefit of the exercise
if you're lifting weights you will burn fat and increase your metabolic rate but if you're sloppy with your execution you won't really be building muscle to "sculpt" your body.
also make sure u lift the heaviest weight you can with only being able to do 10-12 reps. if you can do 30 reps than the weight is way too light.
You aren't necessarily gaining muscle when you "sculpt" or "tone", you're just burning away the fat on top of muscle that was already there. While this is all many women WANT to do, it's important to make the distinction between lowering your body fat % and actually building new muscle (which as others have said is very difficult and takes months of conscious effort).0 -
Thanks very much iv learnt a lot today i was always under the impression that it was better to do cardio before weights as your heart rate is already up and in turn kicking your metabolism into gear, but by the looks of things it doesn't really matter! Brill well im off to the gym tonight so will put all your advise to work! I will be using machines as apposed to free weights as the free weights section is generally filled to the brim with 'poser's' which comes across rather intimidating! although i have access to dumb bells upstairs so can do arm curls/extensions with them
Thanks ever so much everyone!0 -
Thanks very much iv learnt a lot today i was always under the impression that it was better to do cardio before weights as your heart rate is already up and in turn kicking your metabolism into gear, but by the looks of things it doesn't really matter! Brill well im off to the gym tonight so will put all your advise to work! I will be using machines as apposed to free weights as the free weights section is generally filled to the brim with 'poser's' which comes across rather intimidating! although i have access to dumb bells upstairs so can do arm curls/extensions with them
Thanks ever so much everyone!
do you know how to lift free weights?
have you personally met/spoken with any of them?
how do you know they are posers?- do they were a sign that says that? what are they posing about? how are they fake?
I have found the people I lift with in the free weights section are most often the most helpful and kind people in the whole gym. Sure they LOOK mean and angry and intimidating- but they are actually really nice.
Don't blame what you aren't doing on someone else. That's ignorant- and rude. And highly offensive.0 -
That was slightly uncalled for you don't go to MY gym and yes actually i do lift free weights and i also know HOW to lift free weights. Generally the guys that are in there are shirtless, in front of the mirror and spend more time looking at them selves than actually lifting a weight so yes i would say they are posing. I never once said the word FAKE so not sure where that came from and yes I'm sure they are very nice friendly people but as a women in a gym i find it a little intimidating being stared at as soon as i set foot in the 'Man Zone'
So please don't be rude to me i wasn't intending to offend anyone just pointing out what MY gym can come across like. And for the record i don't blame anyone for what i don't do only myself.0 -
Hello
3 days a week and your program looks good.
To get tone,ripped/lean it's all about diet.
Know your calorie intake for the day and subtract 200 to 500 calories.0 -
That was slightly uncalled for you don't go to MY gym and yes actually i do lift free weights and i also know HOW to lift free weights. Generally the guys that are in there are shirtless, in front of the mirror and spend more time looking at them selves than actually lifting a weight so yes i would say they are posing. I never once said the word FAKE so not sure where that came from and yes I'm sure they are very nice friendly people but as a women in a gym i find it a little intimidating being stared at as soon as i set foot in the 'Man Zone'
So please don't be rude to me i wasn't intending to offend anyone just pointing out what MY gym can come across like. And for the record i don't blame anyone for what i don't do only myself.
That's an amusing misunderstanding. Posers vs poseurs.0 -
My Friend calculated my TDEE on my stats being 5'7, 176.6lbs and age 24 she didn't include exercise just put nothing in i believe and has told me to eat back what i burn or hlaf of because it's not included in the TDEE Iv now changed my calories to 1463
If you think this is wrong i would really appreciate some help with it as i don't want to be going the wrong way with calories ie starvation mode!
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Hello
3 days a week and your program looks good.
To get tone,ripped/lean it's all about diet.
Know your calorie intake for the day and subtract 200 to 500 calories.
Thanks regards to the calories so if my TDEE is 1463 do i subtract 200-500 from that? because that would be pretty low or do you mean subtract it by working out?
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Hello
3 days a week and your program looks good.
To get tone,ripped/lean it's all about diet.
Know your calorie intake for the day and subtract 200 to 500 calories.
Thanks regards to the calories so if my TDEE is 1463 do i subtract 200-500 from that? because that would be pretty low or do you mean subtract it by working out?
Thanks
I think your friend made it harder on you than necessary by calculating your sedentary TDEE and then having you eat back exercise calories. If you calculate your "moderate activity" TDEE (2506) and subtract 25%, then you could eat 1879 calories a week and still lose, or if you calculate it at "light activity", (2223) and subtract 25%, you could eat 1667 a day. If I were you, I'd forget trying to calculate exercise calories and try eating at 1667 and see where that gets you. You may do better eating at the higher number given your level of activity (which certainly looks like moderate to me).
Thanks hun,
Well I'm so confused this morning because even with eating those calories and doing the work outs i have stated iv managed to gain 2lbs :-/ urrghhh
I'm worried if i eat 1667 calories i'll gain weight back again! I think the reason she did it without adding in exercise is in case it isn't consistent (I have a little girl so sometimes gym is my 2nd priority!) Then i have been eating back only half of what i get from exercise. I believe when my friend done the calculations she put sedentary and subtracted 20%? I know different sites can vary maybe it's that?
So if I'm looking to loose 40lbs and my stats are 5'7, 168.2, female, 24 what should my TDEE be with and without exercise?
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http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/
Here Jess go ahead and run your own numbers and check your variable options.
A lot of people will gain a little bit when they start a new program due to water retention from freshly damaged muscles. Also, a 2 lb fluctuation for no reason at all is totally normal.0 -
http://www.1percentedge.com/ifcalc/
Here Jess go ahead and run your own numbers and check your variable options.
A lot of people will gain a little bit when they start a new program due to water retention from freshly damaged muscles. Also, a 2 lb fluctuation for no reason at all is totally normal.
Ah ha perfect thanks very much
Yea i should probably just stop being so hard on myself!!0 -
No it's TDEE not MFP calculations Had some help via a friend to help work it out so not sure if that has a deficit built in or not?
Ok i have been eating a small amount back so maybe eat a bit more of it back.
if it is TDEE then you should eat 1482 a day and not eat back exercise cals..
oh, and what everyone else said about compound lifts for working out…learn them, do them, own them….!0
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