Can anyone recomend a good fat burner/dietary suppliment?

Well, I hear there are thermogenic fat burners, regular fat burners and so forth.

No, there aren't.

I don't think any of those work. Diet and exercise are what work--take in fewer calories than you use.

I'm not sure if fat burners really work. Fat absorbers seem to but the difference you will see will be minimum.

The best fat burner is exercise. I think 2 fat absorber/blocker pills equates to between 1 and 2 miles walking/running :-) Go for a 5 mile walk or jog and you will do more for fat burning than the meds - you will also be benefiting your body :-) They only work if there is a lot of fat in your meal as well. If you are on a low fat, high protien/carb diet then the impact will be less because they actually stop your body absorbing the fat. If there isn't any fat there to start with then they don't do much

Good luck

I think that there is a big industry praying on vulnerable people that believe the **** that they spit out. I don't think there is such a thing as an effective "Fat burner" ... or else there would be some pharmaceutical making a pill and we would all be taking it.

Sorry ... calorie deficit

There are no magic pills for weight loss. Don't you think there would be announcements on tv and in the newpaper and long lines at stores to buy them if they worked. They will lighten your wallet.

Probably the closest to what you are expecting would be an EC/ECA stack (ephedrine and caffeine [and aspirin in the latter case]). You can do your own research and make up your own mind about whether you want to try it or not. There have been plenty of studies done on the various effects - both negative and positive.

To be clear I am not recommending you do or do not take this, or any other supplement. I don't really care what you do - but try to make informed choices.

^^ minus the running shoes (and clothes).

Keep the shoes & clothes...Add a nice pair of weight gloves if you like... if anything, keeps the hands from hurting besides making you look badass.

Probably the closest to what you are expecting would be an EC/ECA stack (ephedrine and caffeine [and aspirin in the latter case]). You can do your own research and make up your own mind about whether you want to try it or not. There have been plenty of studies done on the various effects - both negative and positive.

To be clear I am not recommending you do or do not take this, or any other supplement. I don't really care what you do - but try to make informed choices.

This would be the only thing close to what you're asking about with plenty of studies showing their effectiveness, but the ephedrine can be hard to get in the US. In Canada, you can get them at any supplement store.

Save your money as NONE of these work, and some are simply dangerous. The best supplement for fat burning is what everyone else has said.....exercise and strength training. Good luck to you!

Like anything else, it's only dangerous if you abuse it. Do you know how many people die every year because of Advil and Tylenol?

Running works really well as a perfect supplement to dieting.

Eating well and exercise, best fat burner pill out there. And it's free.

I guess you didn't read the original post - he's already doing that.

Add Chillies to your food or slowly increase from none to moderate (hot without burning your inside out) and drink lemon juice water with 1/2-1tsp of cayennepepper to boost digestive system.

I understand that people are trying to nudge the OP in what is - for most people - the safest and most appropriate direction but a blanket statement that "they" don't work is a little disingenuous. I don't think it is useful to propagate misinformation even if the direct effect here is positive.

Not that I am telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe but this isn't a binary question. There are various things that have been shown to "work" in some sense and they have different levels of risk associated with them.

I am far from an expert, and am as likely to be wrong as anyone else I just think it is better that we promote open dialogue about these things.

Well, I hear there are thermogenic fat burners, regular fat burners and so forth.

No, there aren't.

yes there are. Oil lamps are very good fat burners. It's probably not a terribly good idea to apply that principle to the human body though. On the other hand, if you rub it a genie might come out and grant you three wishes, one of which could be to get lean.

You want me to set my fat on fire and then rub one out?

:noway:

So, if I eat attractive ladies who lift, I'll lose weight at a faster rate.

Good to know.