How was THAT 1100 cals?
fougamou
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OMG, I went to Longhorn Steakhouse and ordered a Grilled Chicken Apple Harvest Salad. Ingredients were: Crisp Fuji apples, pecans, dried cranberries, bacon, sweet potato crisps and spinach in an apple cider vinaigrette - and of course chicken. Wasn't a mega salad (portion wise, I think it was smaller than the salads I get from Panera), and not a lot of chicken and I do not remember even eating any pecans, so there certainly were not many.
When I looked it up 1100, and I am still hungry! I assume all the calories came from the dressing, but still....
When I looked it up 1100, and I am still hungry! I assume all the calories came from the dressing, but still....
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that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry0
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I have learned the hard way, like you, that a salad doesn't mean low cal or lower cal. If I can, I look up the nutritional facts ahead of time, so I can plan accordingly.0
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That dressing is about 225 calories a serving... but who knows how much added sugar they put in the glaze they use to prepare the chicken.0
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That's why I stay away from salads. Not worth it, unless I make it from home.0
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I know it!! Salads can be a killer. I try to get salmon or a steak with grilled veggies. It does suck though because a big restaurant salad is really good every now and then.0
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That is a lot of calories for a salad. I'm so glad I don't like dressings and am lactose intolerant, which means no cheese, because it cuts down on some of the calories.
All in all, sounds like you enjoyed the salad. :bigsmile:0 -
A while back when I was introducing the idea of calories and eating a deficit to lose weight to my parents, my dad decided to look up the salad he had eaten at Applebee's, that fateful Sunday afternoon, on my MFP app. He practically cried when it came up as over 2000 calories. I just despise eating out anymore...except for Chipotle ;D0
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I feel your pain! For me it was learning the truth about antipasto. Holy moly.
My restaurant salads are few and far between. I make my own (and my own dressing) at home.0 -
I had that salad. Minus the bacon. And dressing on the side - used like a tsp of it.
It was an ok salad. But I had to send it back because it came with bacon and asked for none. They dumped it out, picked out the bacon and tossed it back in the bowl. Wasnt nearly as nicely presented the second time it was served.0 -
I am usually wise to salads, but it was a vinaigrette, not a creamy salad dressing. No cheese, no croutons. I would have guessed 650-700 cals. Still can't figure it out.0
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Always get your dressing on the side. Even a vinaigrette is made with a lot of oil which in and of itself is not "bad"...but the problem is that a serving of dressing is generally around a couple of TBSPs and that would be fine....but most restaurants put about triple that on their salad. When you get it on the side you get to see how much actual dressing they use and of course, you can then control it.
A mere 3 Tbsp of a good vinaigrette is easily 300 - 400 calories...they probably put about 6 Tbsps on the salad as people generally like it loaded up. Their job is to make customers happy (food tastes good and bang for your buck), not calorie control.0 -
I suspect the dressing as the main culprit. On a whim I checked out the calories in a vinaigrette that was in our fridge a while - 100 calories for just 2 tbsp. Who knows what was in theirs, could have consisted of more oil than a normal vinaigrette.
But yeah, 1100 sounds so high for that salad. Not sure either how it came out to that much.
I remember buying a grocery store berry spinach salad for lunch. The "lemon poppy seed" dressing alone was over 450 calories and was mostly just mayonnaise, oil, and lemon juice. It tasted disgusting and I ended up using about 1/4th of it.0 -
that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry
How are they unhealthy? The amount of calories in food should not dictate whether they are considered healthy or not.0 -
I assume she means they're not much healthier than the non-salad menu options, since the salads can be full of high-fat ingredients (bacon, nuts, oil, cheese), with a handful of iceberg lettuce tossed under it to make you feel virtuous.that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry
How are they unhealthy? The amount of calories in food should not dictate whether they are considered healthy or not.
I think sometimes the salad is not really made to the spec that the calories are based on. I got a curried chicken salad from Pita Jungle twice, that rings up to a whopping 1270 calories. The first time, it was huge and the 'chicken salad' part was in a yogurt based dressing and I made two hearty meals of it. The second time, they used grilled chicken strips (not in dressing like 'chicken salad'), fewer nuts, fewer toppings and it was just much smaller. I easily ate the whole thing.
It's all estimates.0 -
I assume she means they're not much healthier than the non-salad menu options, since the salads can be full of high-fat ingredients (bacon, nuts, oil, cheese), with a handful of iceberg lettuce tossed under it to make you feel virtuous.that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry
How are they unhealthy? The amount of calories in food should not dictate whether they are considered healthy or not.
I think sometimes the salad is not really made to the spec that the calories are based on. I got a curried chicken salad from Pita Jungle twice, that rings up to a whopping 1270 calories. The first time, it was huge and the 'chicken salad' part was in a yogurt based dressing and I made two hearty meals of it. The second time, they used grilled chicken strips (not in dressing like 'chicken salad'), fewer nuts, fewer toppings and it was just much smaller. I easily ate the whole thing.
It's all estimates.
Dietary fat is healthy and essential...
I think the problem is that so many people think that only vegetables are "healthy" and nothing else. People have a general lack of knowledge when it comes to proper nutrition. People still think that fat makes you fat and of course, carbs are just the latest and greatest of dietary boogie man.0 -
OMG, I went to Longhorn Steakhouse and ordered a Grilled Chicken Apple Harvest Salad. Ingredients were: Crisp Fuji apples, pecans, dried cranberries, bacon, sweet potato crisps and spinach in an apple cider vinaigrette - and of course chicken. Wasn't a mega salad (portion wise, I think it was smaller than the salads I get from Panera), and not a lot of chicken and I do not remember even eating any pecans, so there certainly were not many.
When I looked it up 1100, and I am still hungry! I assume all the calories came from the dressing, but still....
no, the calories also came from the pecans, the bacon, the dried cranberries, the sweet potato crisps, the chicken, the apples and the spinach. In this list only the apples and the spinach sound lowish on calories, the rest ...0 -
OMG, I went to Longhorn Steakhouse and ordered a Grilled Chicken Apple Harvest Salad. Ingredients were: Crisp Fuji apples, pecans, dried cranberries, bacon, sweet potato crisps and spinach in an apple cider vinaigrette - and of course chicken. Wasn't a mega salad (portion wise, I think it was smaller than the salads I get from Panera), and not a lot of chicken and I do not remember even eating any pecans, so there certainly were not many.
When I looked it up 1100, and I am still hungry! I assume all the calories came from the dressing, but still....
I'm guessing it was the dressing, potato crisps, and nuts. Nuts are high in calories (but also good for you, in moderation). Even though it was high in calorie content, it was probably better for you than a burger and fries with similar caloric content. When eating out, one thing to try is ordering a side salad with chicken. Go for full fat dressing though, not fat free.0 -
Here's why it's 1100 calories: pecans, dried cranberries (MOST have extra sugar, like adding candy bits to your salad), BACON (need I really explain), and sweet potato "crisps" means FRIED, add the dressing…1100 easy0
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I assume she means they're not much healthier than the non-salad menu options, since the salads can be full of high-fat ingredients (bacon, nuts, oil, cheese), with a handful of iceberg lettuce tossed under it to make you feel virtuous.that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry
How are they unhealthy? The amount of calories in food should not dictate whether they are considered healthy or not.
I think sometimes the salad is not really made to the spec that the calories are based on. I got a curried chicken salad from Pita Jungle twice, that rings up to a whopping 1270 calories. The first time, it was huge and the 'chicken salad' part was in a yogurt based dressing and I made two hearty meals of it. The second time, they used grilled chicken strips (not in dressing like 'chicken salad'), fewer nuts, fewer toppings and it was just much smaller. I easily ate the whole thing.
It's all estimates.
Dietary fat is healthy and essential...
I think the problem is that so many people think that only vegetables are "healthy" and nothing else. People have a general lack of knowledge when it comes to proper nutrition. People still think that fat makes you fat and of course, carbs are just the latest and greatest of dietary boogie man.
Exactly this ^.0 -
Here's why it's 1100 calories: pecans, dried cranberries (MOST have extra sugar, like adding candy bits to your salad), BACON (need I really explain), and sweet potato "crisps" means FRIED, add the dressing…1100 easy
I dont eat bacon because I dont like pork.
But bacon is not bad for you.
Centercut bacon is pretty lean and a good source of fat and protein. Dont demonize it.
Also you can make something crispy without frying it.
Ive eaten that salad. They werent greasy and fried like.0 -
Here's why it's 1100 calories: pecans, dried cranberries (MOST have extra sugar, like adding candy bits to your salad), BACON (need I really explain), and sweet potato "crisps" means FRIED, add the dressing…1100 easy
I dont eat bacon because I dont like pork.
But bacon is not bad for you.
Centercut bacon is pretty lean and a good source of fat and protein. Dont demonize it.
Also you can make something crispy without frying it.
Ive eaten that salad. They werent greasy and fried like.
Baked chicken can be given a crispy coating that tastes damn near as good as fried. It's an indulgence still, yes..but totally workable into a calorie budget and just as tasty.0 -
We've all been there. Scuttled by the salad and left wondering why we didn't just have the steak and onion rings
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Yep, restaurant salads are notoriously calorie-heavy. Most times we're better off ordering a burger!
But I wanted salad today, and so ordered one at Chili's - great protein (63g), but over 1400 cals!
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Here's why it's 1100 calories: pecans, dried cranberries (MOST have extra sugar, like adding candy bits to your salad), BACON (need I really explain), and sweet potato "crisps" means FRIED, add the dressing…1100 easy
I dont eat bacon because I dont like pork.
But bacon is not bad for you.
Centercut bacon is pretty lean and a good source of fat and protein. Dont demonize it.
Also you can make something crispy without frying it.
Ive eaten that salad. They werent greasy and fried like.
People usually have bacon and think they've eaten something low calorie :laugh:0 -
I don't have a general lack of knowledge when it comes to nutrition. Fat is needed, sure, but not the levels found in the standard American diet or the standard American restaurant salad. No one said only vegetables are healthy. but a 600 calorie salad laden with vegetables is going to be seen as healthier to 99% of people than a 1200 calorie salad laden with bacon and cheese.
I assume she means they're not much healthier than the non-salad menu options, since the salads can be full of high-fat ingredients (bacon, nuts, oil, cheese), with a handful of iceberg lettuce tossed under it to make you feel virtuous.that's horrible. I've read many articles about being careful about salads... most (unless you make it yourself) are not healthy and loaded with calories... sucks though ;-( sorry
How are they unhealthy? The amount of calories in food should not dictate whether they are considered healthy or not.
I think sometimes the salad is not really made to the spec that the calories are based on. I got a curried chicken salad from Pita Jungle twice, that rings up to a whopping 1270 calories. The first time, it was huge and the 'chicken salad' part was in a yogurt based dressing and I made two hearty meals of it. The second time, they used grilled chicken strips (not in dressing like 'chicken salad'), fewer nuts, fewer toppings and it was just much smaller. I easily ate the whole thing.
It's all estimates.
Dietary fat is healthy and essential...
I think the problem is that so many people think that only vegetables are "healthy" and nothing else. People have a general lack of knowledge when it comes to proper nutrition. People still think that fat makes you fat and of course, carbs are just the latest and greatest of dietary boogie man.
I think carbs were the boogie man about 10 years ago.0 -
I usually order my salads as "just the veggies" and with the dressing on the side. I'll dip my fork into the dressing before loading the fork with the greens so I only pick up a really small amount of dressing...and I'll have that with a plain baked potato and steamed broccoli with lemon juice. Super filling and around 350 calories (maybe a little more depending the size of the potato)0
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I find that at most restuarants it is better (in terms of limiting calories) to get a steak instead of a salad. Know that for next time, especially since you were at a steak house!
But it is shocking to see the calories in restuarant foods. I consumed 1200 calories for lunch yesterday at Red Robin eating a BBQ chicken wrap and fruit salad! The BBQ Chicken Wrap is one of the highest calorie items on their menu. Sometimes you just have to indulge.0
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