30 day shread in the AM: Whey protein shake before or after?

It doesn't matter. The protein shake doesn't help you burn fat, your caloric deficit does. The protein shake helps to make sure you meet your protein macro for muscle health.

It doesn't matter. The protein shake doesn't help you burn fat, your caloric deficit does. The protein shake helps to make sure you meet your protein macro for muscle health.

It doesn't matter. The protein shake doesn't help you burn fat, your caloric deficit does. The protein shake helps to make sure you meet your protein macro for muscle health.

^All this right here.

I'm starting the 30day shred today also!!.. i take my protein shakes after my workout.. you'll be too full if you drink it before.. in my opinion.. goodluck!

It's not going to make a lick of difference in fat burning when you have the protein, have it whenever it makes you feel the best. Personally I would choose after, because I get nauseated be-bopping around with protein in my belly.

It will make a difference to recovery though

Glycogen recompensation will still occur even if the post workout shake is skipped, as long as the user eats a reasonable amount of carbohydrate before the next training bout. For most people, training once per day with some food between training bouts is sufficient.

Trainees who both:
A) deplete glycogen
And
perform multiple glycogen depleting events in succession

need precisely timed nutrients for glycogen recompensation.

It will make a difference to recovery though

Will it? Really? For 30DS?

You are correct glycogen stores will still be restored if you skip the shake and eat later but this is much less efficient and will take longer. I'm sure most people who workout consume food within minutes of finishing their routine so they can be in the best condition possible for their next bout of exercise!

......no

It doesn't matter. The protein shake doesn't help you burn fat, your caloric deficit does. The protein shake helps to make sure you meet your protein macro for muscle health.

This.

And do you even need a protein shake...can you not meet your protein with food?

Also working out early in the morning is a known method for increasing the bodies fat burning mechanism. You could fire it up more by having a black coffee or green tea pre workout

Your body does not know what time it is. Working out in the morning as opposed to any other time of the day will not make a jot of difference to your metabolism.

"Fire up" your metabolism with tea or coffee? :huh:

Side steel you have a good physique can how long after training do you consume your shake?

I typically drink milk and whey in my morning coffee. I train afterwards. Then I go home and typically within 1 to 2 hours after my training I eat a large meal.

Its not the time of the day, it has something to do with your body fasting throughout the night. When you wake up you have not eaten in 7+ hours. I've read it helps to burn more fat by exercising on an empty stomach in the morning.

The caffeine in coffee and green tea is supposed to help speed up your metabolism

The theory behind this is that training fasted will burn a greater percentage of fat compared to training fed. But when you think about it, the fact that you're burning fat instead of carbs during training isn't really important since the carbs you would have eaten pre training, are now being moved to post training where they aren't getting burned off by exercise. (Comparing identical total intakes).

Unless you can somehow show that burning a particular substrate during exercise by manipulating nutrient timing leads to greater whole body fat reduction over time, then I don't think we can conclude that it matters.

I really think that for the majority, manipulating nutrient timing for performance and adherence reasons will trump any minor (or perhaps negligible) differences that could occur by following a specific timing designed to reap theoretical benefits.

It doesn't matter. The protein shake doesn't help you burn fat, your caloric deficit does. The protein shake helps to make sure you meet your protein macro for muscle health.

Truth.

Protein functions in the body primarily for tissue growth & repair, so I typically drink a shake post-work out.
If it's energy you want, you should go with carbohydrates over protein, since they're the body's primary energy source.
[Just out of a Nutrition class at university last semester, this stuff's still fresh. ]

Its not the time of the day, it has something to do with your body fasting throughout the night. When you wake up you have not eaten in 7+ hours. I've read it helps to burn more fat by exercising on an empty stomach in the morning.

The caffeine in coffee and green tea is supposed to help speed up your metabolism

The theory behind this is that training fasted will burn a greater percentage of fat compared to training fed. But when you think about it, the fact that you're burning fat instead of carbs during training isn't really important since the carbs you would have eaten pre training, are now being moved to post training where they aren't getting burned off by exercise. (Comparing identical total intakes).

Unless you can somehow show that burning a particular substrate during exercise by manipulating nutrient timing leads to greater whole body fat reduction over time, then I don't think we can conclude that it matters.

I really think that for the majority, manipulating nutrient timing for performance and adherence reasons will trump any minor (or perhaps negligible) differences that could occur by following a specific timing designed to reap theoretical benefits.

I see what you mean. I suppose if I cut down on carbs all around this is when I would see the most benefit of working out on an empty stomach. However if I continue to eat carbs and eat them later on in the day then they would not get burned off by exercise. Good points.

Figure out a reasonable total daily intake of calories and macronutrients and use performance and preference to dictate when you eat.