End the Cleavage Hypocrisy!
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Yes, there are women out there who show off their cleavage for attention and then complain about it and "don't understand why" they're getting comments. They're jerks and everyone knows it. However, you're generalizing comment annoys me and here are my reasons:
1. Regardless of whatever the chick is wearing, covered up from head to toe or looking like a 2 dollar *kitten*, she's going to get comments from men and women, especially online since we call all hide behind our computer screens and let our remarks-without-consequences fly - comments that are flattering, sketchy, insulting and sometimes with oppressive language.
2. Now on the topic of busty girls: For bustier chicks, it is just plain difficult to look presentable, when you're covered up it's still a lot of boob, you show a little cleavage and it's magnified 10x smaller breasted women - and no this is not always (closer to hardly ever) a good thing.
3. Crew neck shirts (t-shirts) on busty chicks does not work most of the time, they ride up (because of boobs), they make you look like a block (because of boobs), they make your boobs look bigger in a way that will, once again, cause stupid reactions from men (because of boobs).
So my point is this: She sounds like a jerk but so do you. Thought you should know.
Somehow, I've made it 47 years without being a victim of my breasts. Maybe I should give a How To Wrangle Your Boobs course because it's really just not that hard.
It is fine if you prefer a modest look, but not every woman does.0 -
"Nice shirt" implies nothing about anything but the shirt, though you may choose to infer additional connotations to it. I'd be thoroughly confused if I said "nice shirt" to someone, from behind, and got scolded for staring at her boobs, for example. Also, the proscription is against "ANY" comment on "ANY" article of clothing; "nice mittens" is equally off-limits, by the verbiage used.
So it's not ever, under any circumstances, okay for a guy to say "nice shirt" to any woman. Got it. I assume this also goes for women, right? No woman is ever allowed to make any comment whatsoever about a guy's clothing or appearance choices? For that matter, no man is allowed to comment on another man's clothing choices, or woman allowed to comment on another woman's clothing choices. . .
Just curious here. . . is this comment also verboten? If yes, why? If no, then why are "ANY" comments about your choice of attire off-limits? What, specifically, gives you the right to censor another person's speech when it's about your choice of clothing and how you look wearing it?I can walk down the street naked if i want to. Yes, you can look.
No, you can't make ANY comments. Can't touch me, can't assume things, can't be rude to me because i'm naked.
What are you? 5? Can't control your impulses? Let's all cover up all the time, because men are such weak people, we can't blame them for their actions when they see a little skin, right?
I believe you answered your own question when you said it's about her choice of clothing. That's none of your business. Not at all.
Is that what you meant?
i can't speak for that poster, but i now for me it isnt so much the commenting that gets annoying but the way the comment is phrased.
"nice shirt" i know implies that there's boob appreciation but it's done in such a way to not put someone as on the defensive as 'i'd like to put my face (or other body part) between your boobs' there really is no other way to respond to that besides some version of "eff off, a*hole"
any straight guy commenting on my clothing like shirt, dress or pants it's pretty much implied they are also commenting on the body underneath.
just like when straight girls compliment a guy on his pants it's also about the butt underneath as much as the pants.
:laugh: @ boob wrangling and bimbo lamenting.0 -
So, I'm sitting around watching the NFL playoffs and scanning the forums. I came across one where a woman was upset because she was getting an "abnormal amount" of attention. Guys were making rude comments and asking for friend requests because she is busty and shows a lot of cleavage in her posts. I then looked at her profile. ALL of her pics showed off her ample chest. In a few pics, she was bending forward accentuating the view. Give me a damn break, women!
My point is this: If you don't want men looking at your cleavage, cover up! There are tops without plunging neck lines, you know? I'm sick of women showing the shape they were given, and then *****ing about comments they receive.
Women show cleavage for attention, plain and simple. If you are posting in a public forum, you will get viewed by men. Stop pretending you are unaware, or, worse, that you are shocked when you get comments you find rude. Guys can be horndogs, no doubt, but don't pretend to be offended when you are obviously seeking attention. Wear a damn tee shirt and you solve the problem!
Speaking as a woman with ample bosom, sometimes we don't realize the cleavage is showing off so bad. Maybe you take a picture and like it for another reason and then post it. I see your point if ALL your pics are like that. I have profile pics that aren't that bad and still get hounded. It was not my goal. There are definitely more to a woman than her breasts. I actually took down some current pics for this reason. I say look and hush. If it's a crotch shot then I see being a horn dog but that is definitely not the reason for this site.
I don't think this is what th eOP is saying at all. There's hi, this is my body and theres Present The Boobs. Both are fine and dandy. The complaint isn't the cleavage it's the lady doeth protest too much sort of thing.0 -
I'm straight. I can assure you that if I comment on your shirt, that's all I'm talking about. Interesting generalization there, though.
"Nice shirt" implies nothing about anything but the shirt, though you may choose to infer additional connotations to it. I'd be thoroughly confused if I said "nice shirt" to someone, from behind, and got scolded for staring at her boobs, for example. Also, the proscription is against "ANY" comment on "ANY" article of clothing; "nice mittens" is equally off-limits, by the verbiage used.
So it's not ever, under any circumstances, okay for a guy to say "nice shirt" to any woman. Got it. I assume this also goes for women, right? No woman is ever allowed to make any comment whatsoever about a guy's clothing or appearance choices? For that matter, no man is allowed to comment on another man's clothing choices, or woman allowed to comment on another woman's clothing choices. . .
Just curious here. . . is this comment also verboten? If yes, why? If no, then why are "ANY" comments about your choice of attire off-limits? What, specifically, gives you the right to censor another person's speech when it's about your choice of clothing and how you look wearing it?I can walk down the street naked if i want to. Yes, you can look.
No, you can't make ANY comments. Can't touch me, can't assume things, can't be rude to me because i'm naked.
What are you? 5? Can't control your impulses? Let's all cover up all the time, because men are such weak people, we can't blame them for their actions when they see a little skin, right?
I believe you answered your own question when you said it's about her choice of clothing. That's none of your business. Not at all.
Is that what you meant?
i can't speak for that poster, but i now for me it isnt so much the commenting that gets annoying but the way the comment is phrased.
"nice shirt" i know implies that there's boob appreciation but it's done in such a way to not put someone as on the defensive as 'i'd like to put my face (or other body part) between your boobs' there really is no other way to respond to that besides some version of "eff off, a*hole"
any straight guy commenting on my clothing like shirt, dress or pants it's pretty much implied they are also commenting on the body underneath.
just like when straight girls compliment a guy on his pants it's also about the butt underneath as much as the pants.
:laugh: @ boob wrangling and bimbo lamenting.0 -
or she could just be like me and fail to notice any cleavage in her selfies.
Easily fixed. Send all (and I mean ALL) your selfies to me prior to posting and after thorough examination I will let you know if the cleavage reaches a theoretical level we'll refer to as "too much"
ok great! where do I send them? I am so glad to have someone looking out for my breast interests!
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"Nice shirt" implies nothing about anything but the shirt, though you may choose to infer additional connotations to it. I'd be thoroughly confused if I said "nice shirt" to someone, from behind, and got scolded for staring at her boobs, for example. Also, the proscription is against "ANY" comment on "ANY" article of clothing; "nice mittens" is equally off-limits, by the verbiage used.
So it's not ever, under any circumstances, okay for a guy to say "nice shirt" to any woman. Got it. I assume this also goes for women, right? No woman is ever allowed to make any comment whatsoever about a guy's clothing or appearance choices? For that matter, no man is allowed to comment on another man's clothing choices, or woman allowed to comment on another woman's clothing choices. . .
Just curious here. . . is this comment also verboten? If yes, why? If no, then why are "ANY" comments about your choice of attire off-limits? What, specifically, gives you the right to censor another person's speech when it's about your choice of clothing and how you look wearing it?I can walk down the street naked if i want to. Yes, you can look.
No, you can't make ANY comments. Can't touch me, can't assume things, can't be rude to me because i'm naked.
What are you? 5? Can't control your impulses? Let's all cover up all the time, because men are such weak people, we can't blame them for their actions when they see a little skin, right?
I believe you answered your own question when you said it's about her choice of clothing. That's none of your business. Not at all.
Is that what you meant?
i can't speak for that poster, but i now for me it isnt so much the commenting that gets annoying but the way the comment is phrased.
"nice shirt" i know implies that there's boob appreciation but it's done in such a way to not put someone as on the defensive as 'i'd like to put my face (or other body part) between your boobs' there really is no other way to respond to that besides some version of "eff off, a*hole"
any straight guy commenting on my clothing like shirt, dress or pants it's pretty much implied they are also commenting on the body underneath.
just like when straight girls compliment a guy on his pants it's also about the butt underneath as much as the pants.
:laugh: @ boob wrangling and bimbo lamenting.
Not true all the time.0 -
So, I'm sitting around watching the NFL playoffs and scanning the forums. I came across one where a woman was upset because she was getting an "abnormal amount" of attention. Guys were making rude comments and asking for friend requests because she is busty and shows a lot of cleavage in her posts. I then looked at her profile. ALL of her pics showed off her ample chest. In a few pics, she was bending forward accentuating the view. Give me a damn break, women!
My point is this: If you don't want men looking at your cleavage, cover up! There are tops without plunging neck lines, you know? I'm sick of women showing the shape they were given, and then *****ing about comments they receive.
Women show cleavage for attention, plain and simple. If you are posting in a public forum, you will get viewed by men. Stop pretending you are unaware, or, worse, that you are shocked when you get comments you find rude. Guys can be horndogs, no doubt, but don't pretend to be offended when you are obviously seeking attention. Wear a damn tee shirt and you solve the problem!
How about the men who made rude comments just don't make rude comments and act mature. If she wasn't being rude to them then I don't see why they have to be rude just because she has cleavage, sounds pretty immature to me.0 -
Yes, there are women out there who show off their cleavage for attention and then complain about it and "don't understand why" they're getting comments. They're jerks and everyone knows it. However, you're generalizing comment annoys me and here are my reasons:
1. Regardless of whatever the chick is wearing, covered up from head to toe or looking like a 2 dollar *kitten*, she's going to get comments from men and women, especially online since we call all hide behind our computer screens and let our remarks-without-consequences fly - comments that are flattering, sketchy, insulting and sometimes with oppressive language.
2. Now on the topic of busty girls: For bustier chicks, it is just plain difficult to look presentable, when you're covered up it's still a lot of boob, you show a little cleavage and it's magnified 10x smaller breasted women - and no this is not always (closer to hardly ever) a good thing.
3. Crew neck shirts (t-shirts) on busty chicks does not work most of the time, they ride up (because of boobs), they make you look like a block (because of boobs), they make your boobs look bigger in a way that will, once again, cause stupid reactions from men (because of boobs).
So my point is this: She sounds like a jerk but so do you. Thought you should know.
Somehow, I've made it 47 years without being a victim of my breasts. Maybe I should give a How To Wrangle Your Boobs course because it's really just not that hard.
It is fine if you prefer a modest look, but not every woman does.
Oh, no you are totally not understanding me and why that's SO far beyond how you'd define me. My point is you can 'help' showing or not showing and how it shows. It's just dressing. Frankly, I take exception with the idea that it's hard for us to look presentable, WTF?
You'd think we have a third eye or something. I have big boobs, not a friggin unicorn horn.0 -
You get what you put out.
Sure, because women who are dressed modestly are never ogled, harassed, or hit on. If that's what they got, then it doesn't matter how modestly they were dressed....they were putting it out there.
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or she could just be like me and fail to notice any cleavage in her selfies.
Easily fixed. Send all (and I mean ALL) your selfies to me prior to posting and after thorough examination I will let you know if the cleavage reaches a theoretical level we'll refer to as "too much"
ok great! where do I send them? I am so glad to have someone looking out for my breast interests!
FIFY
oh you...0 -
Ok. Was going to stay out this here post but I am a DD and able to cover up. I do not normally wear button up shirts but if you look at my profile pic, I have a regular T-Shirt on and yes my boobs are prominent but hey, can I help I'm so damn sexy? LMAO!!!
All jokes aside. Now that my daughter is older I do not present cleavage that much and been working fine this way. I can wear tank tops, shirts, dresses, etc, size L in shirts, M in dresses and I'm fine.
Now ofcourse there will be occasions that my girls will creep out a little but its my responsibility to buy clothes that cover up. If I do not then yes I will get more stares.
I do not have the problem of people being disrespectful and blatantly rude because well, I have a strong personality and aint going for it and all who meet me know that. So it depends on you as a person as well.
It is what it is. You go out showing all your goods be prepared for looks, stares, and possibly unwanted comments. Yes, guys are still looking even if I cover up but that is expected.
It is what it is. lol0 -
it's funny that people are taking this thread seriously and are now arguing...
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You get what you put out.
Sure, because women who are dressed modestly are never ogled, harassed, or hit on. If that's what they got, then it doesn't matter how modestly they were dressed....they were putting it out there.
I think thats a stretch to assume that was implied. I believe the point is Pam Anderson can't ***** because she's seen as eye candy. Intent, it's intent.0 -
it's funny that people are taking this thread seriously and are now arguing...
Nah, I just have seven minutes to kill.0 -
Ok. Was going to stay out this here post but I am a DD and able to cover up. I do not normally wear button up shirts but if you look at my profile pic, I have a regular T-Shirt on and yes my boobs are prominent but hey, can I help I'm so damn sexy? LMAO!!!
All jokes aside. Now that my daughter is older I do not present cleavage that much and been working fine this way. I can wear tank tops, shirts, dresses, etc, size L in shirts, M in dresses and I'm fine.
Now ofcourse there will be occasions that my girls will creep out a little but its my responsibility to buy clothes that cover up. If I do not then yes I will get more stares.
I do not have the problem of people being disrespectful and blatantly rude because well, I have a strong personality and aint going for it and all who meet me know that. So it depends on you as a person as well.
It is what it is. You go out showing all your goods be prepared for looks, stares, and possibly unwanted comments. Yes, guys are still looking even if I cover up but that is expected.
It is what it is. lol
Now you ruined it by being all reasonable.0 -
Ok. Was going to stay out this here post but I am a DD and able to cover up. I do not normally wear button up shirts but if you look at my profile pic, I have a regular T-Shirt on and yes my boobs are prominent but hey, can I help I'm so damn sexy? LMAO!!!
All jokes aside. Now that my daughter is older I do not present cleavage that much and been working fine this way. I can wear tank tops, shirts, dresses, etc, size L in shirts, M in dresses and I'm fine.
Now ofcourse there will be occasions that my girls will creep out a little but its my responsibility to buy clothes that cover up. If I do not then yes I will get more stares.
I do not have the problem of people being disrespectful and blatantly rude because well, I have a strong personality and aint going for it and all who meet me know that. So it depends on you as a person as well.
It is what it is. You go out showing all your goods be prepared for looks, stares, and possibly unwanted comments. Yes, guys are still looking even if I cover up but that is expected.
It is what it is. lol
You know, this "it is what it is" attitude is the problem.
It shouldn't be "what it is". You shouldn't be able to make rude comments to someone because of what they are wearing. We should't brush it off as "it is what it is".
And with that, i'm out.0 -
Show boobs, don't show boobs. whatever. Do what makes you happy. Quit being jerks to one another. The end.
STAHP THIS CRAZY TALK0 -
I don't have cleavage even under the best of circumstances, but I'm still in to watch this thread combust. Err I mean, unfold.0
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it's funny that people are taking this thread seriously and are now arguing...
You say that as if it could have ever have gone any other way.0 -
What is a "slore"?0
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combination "slut" and "wh*re," I suspect.What is a "slore"?0 -
Show boobs,̶ d̶o̶n̶'̶t̶ ̶s̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶b̶o̶o̶b̶s̶.̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶e̶v̶e̶r̶.̶ Do what makes you happy. Quit being jerks to one another. The end.
FTFY0 -
I don't have cleavage even under the best of circumstances, but I'm still in to watch this thread combust. Err I mean, unfold.
Here you can borrow mine, I have to go get the kid ready for school tomorrow.
*tosses boobs*0 -
I cannot believe that there are other women in here that are Slore Shaming.
I can.
It's because all women hate each other, right?
No. Well, I hope not. It's because we're still taught that we, as women, are responsible of men's thoughts in regards to our sexuality.
I will not, ever, take responsibility for another person's thoughts, rudeness or assumptions "caused" by something as insignificant as my choice of attire.
You. I like you.0 -
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I don't have cleavage even under the best of circumstances, but I'm still in to watch this thread combust. Err I mean, unfold.
Here you can borrow mine, I have to go get the kid ready for school tomorrow.
*tosses boobs*
Gee thanks! :flowerforyou:0 -
I don't have cleavage even under the best of circumstances, but I'm still in to watch this thread combust. Err I mean, unfold.
Here you can borrow mine, I have to go get the kid ready for school tomorrow.
*tosses boobs*
Gee thanks! :flowerforyou:
I'll want them back later...0 -
I cannot believe that there are other women in here that are Slore Shaming.
I can.
It's because all women hate each other, right?
No. Well, I hope not. It's because we're still taught that we, as women, are responsible of men's thoughts in regards to our sexuality.
I will not, ever, take responsibility for another person's thoughts, rudeness or assumptions "caused" by something as insignificant as my choice of attire.
Stop being reasonable.0 -
If I wear a top that shows clevage the you are in luck. These baby D's are there for a reason.0
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