Breads White vs Wheat vs Whole Wheat vs Multi Grain

You're very welcome. I'm glad that the report on the differences in bread has helped someone here. That's really all it was about. I know when I did the report I was amazed to find that wheat bread, mulit grain and whole grain breads base were usually white flour. Who knew! It's an important fact for people who may or may not have medical conditions to know, but WHOLE Wheat wasn't white flour based.

Whatever you do don't listen to the fit people. We're all clueless when it comes to lifestyle change.

And no, I'm not saying experience = knowledge, but at some point you would think people would at least take note.

Whole grains are a modern thing. White bread and white rice are far more common and have been for a very long time and yet, the incidence of diabetes skyrocketed over the last few decades. You would think that this calories in vs. calories out concept would get more traction than it does . . .

But meh. Enjoy chasing windmills.

Whole grains are NOT a modern thing. It's a very very very very old thing. They have become popular again. "white breads" particularly white sandwich breads are the new thing.

It's a bit meaningless to talk about "white" vs "whole wheat" bread - there are million ways to make either - there is a world of textural and taste difference between white Wonder Bread and an equally white baguette. Same for browner breads - a world of difference between a Russian rye and pumpernickel vs a loaf of "whole wheat" sandwich bread from the chain store bakery.

Personally, I love baguettes and will never ever give them up. I also love heavy, dark-as-night breads, and won't give those up, either. I just make sure they fit inside my calorie and macro goals.

There's something quite yummy about an old fashioned Irish brown bread. Dear God.
And yes, great point about there being a big difference between a nice rye versus "whole wheat" sandwich breads.

I still each white baguettes and enjoy regular pasta. I'm all about a balanced diet, but if I'm hitting my fiber goals then there is nothing to worry about. In the end, this is just another one of those things that people spend endless hours worrying about that just doesn't matter.

Hit your calorie, protein, fat and fiber goals, and make sure to exercise.

belaboring this point....

I'll join you in the belabouring...for some reason this message has a very difficult time sinking in...

You're very welcome. I'm glad that the report on the differences in bread has helped someone here. That's really all it was about. I know when I did the report I was amazed to find that wheat bread, mulit grain and whole grain breads base were usually white flour. Who knew! It's an important fact for people who may or may not have medical conditions to know, but WHOLE Wheat wasn't white flour based.

Whatever you do don't listen to the fit people. We're all clueless when it comes to lifestyle change.

And no, I'm not saying experience = knowledge, but at some point you would think people would at least take note.

Whole grains are a modern thing. White bread and white rice are far more common and have been for a very long time and yet, the incidence of diabetes skyrocketed over the last few decades. You would think that this calories in vs. calories out concept would get more traction than it does . . .

But meh. Enjoy chasing windmills.

Whole grains are NOT a modern thing. It's a very very very very old thing. They have become popular again. "white breads" particularly white sandwich breads are the new thing.

Some heads are harder than others. Keep up the fight!

You're very welcome. I'm glad that the report on the differences in bread has helped someone here. That's really all it was about. I know when I did the report I was amazed to find that wheat bread, mulit grain and whole grain breads base were usually white flour. Who knew! It's an important fact for people who may or may not have medical conditions to know, but WHOLE Wheat wasn't white flour based.

Whatever you do don't listen to the fit people. We're all clueless when it comes to lifestyle change.

And no, I'm not saying experience = knowledge, but at some point you would think people would at least take note.

Whole grains are a modern thing. White bread and white rice are far more common and have been for a very long time and yet, the incidence of diabetes skyrocketed over the last few decades. You would think that this calories in vs. calories out concept would get more traction than it does . . .

But meh. Enjoy chasing windmills.

Whole grains are NOT a modern thing. It's a very very very very old thing. They have become popular again. "white breads" particularly white sandwich breads are the new thing.

A waste as always

What? Trying to convince people is a waste?
What are you trying to convince them of?
Are you trying to convince me? I am fit. And at maintenance.
And have been for a very long time.

Perhaps...it's your delivery?

You are one of about 5 people I've come across on here with a severe case of special snowflake syndrome.

I see no evidence of your claims and I never have. But I also saw a long time ago that conversing with you is a waste of my time.

100% whole wheat bread is human food. White bread is a delicious processed treat with little nutrional value beyond calories. Both like all things are best eaten in moderation.

You're very welcome. I'm glad that the report on the differences in bread has helped someone here. That's really all it was about. I know when I did the report I was amazed to find that wheat bread, mulit grain and whole grain breads base were usually white flour. Who knew! It's an important fact for people who may or may not have medical conditions to know, but WHOLE Wheat wasn't white flour based.

Whatever you do don't listen to the fit people. We're all clueless when it comes to lifestyle change.

And no, I'm not saying experience = knowledge, but at some point you would think people would at least take note.

Whole grains are a modern thing. White bread and white rice are far more common and have been for a very long time and yet, the incidence of diabetes skyrocketed over the last few decades. You would think that this calories in vs. calories out concept would get more traction than it does . . .

But meh. Enjoy chasing windmills.

Whole grains are NOT a modern thing. It's a very very very very old thing. They have become popular again. "white breads" particularly white sandwich breads are the new thing.

A waste as always

What? Trying to convince people is a waste?
What are you trying to convince them of?
Are you trying to convince me? I am fit. And at maintenance.
And have been for a very long time.

Perhaps...it's your delivery?

You are one of about 5 people I've come across on here with a severe case of special snowflake syndrome.

I see no evidence of your claims and I never have. But I also saw a long time ago that conversing with you is a waste of my time.

What claims? I eat a lot of vegetables. I eat whole foods. I try to eat healthy foods, beyond simply focusing on "macros". What's the claim? What claims have I made other than: I eat food that works for me.
PS: Please consider putting me on ignore. It would be best for you, I suspect.

I honestly just feel sorry for you. We can stop the back and forth.

Meh. I took it like telling you that nutrition-wise, you get more for your calories with whole wheat vs white. It doesn't mean you have to eat that. You do what you want, lol.

OK ENOUGH OF THE BICKERING! My gosh I was trying to do something nice and share info and if this article wasn't of use to you then don't bother posting to it. Don't bother belittling it or anyone else here. I will refrain from posting in here again. I was trying to be nice and share and all it's done is make me feel bad. I don't need this and I will NOT let these petty comments with each other affect my weight loss goals. If you've had success in your weight loss journey then bless you, if you haven't then I pray you find your mojo like I'm trying to do too. Happy New Year to all of you. I'm out of here.

Don't stop posting. Just know that not everyone will agree. They never do.

This was great! I believe the same info... No-one ever believes me about the whole wheat versus multi, or plain wheat, or white.... Same with white rice. The more whole our food, the better we are feeding every part of our bodies
Personally, I LOVE sprouted wheat breads with butter! YUM! But I also like sourdough or rye every once in a while

This was great! I believe the same info... No-one ever believes me about the whole wheat versus multi, or plain wheat, or white.... Same with white rice. The more whole our food, the better we are feeding every part of our bodies
Personally, I LOVE sprouted wheat breads with butter! YUM! But I also like sourdough or rye every once in a while

Why do you believe that?
From the link I posted above, which cites a variety of scientific studies, I believe that it will help Obese and unhealthy people a bit, but will not help those already reasonably healthy.
I believe this because people have tested it out in studies which monitor multiple participants in circumstances that are to some degree controlled.
This is about as good evidence as we get in this area.

Isn't health cyclical though? If you start at great health, "bad" choices won't effect you as much. But many bad choices will. As for unhealthy people it's an upward spiral. When we look at those studies in this context it is easy to understand those conclusions. However, I would opt for the whole nutrient over empty calories most days, and not just because of calories either. Just a standard of health I guess...

From what I have generally read and so on, your body will work optimumly with certain nutrients and so on.
Generally these DON'T have to be every day.
If you choose items without these nutrients, but already have enough, then you are fine.
If you don't have enough already, then you may impair some working a bit.
In some cases you can have 'too much', but for most things you've got to go really-silly to do that.

So, yes if you enjoy eating those foods, go for it.
But, if you're already sorted for micro-nutrients, there's no reason I cab see to have white - it's not going to detract from anything.
I'd see it like filling a glass that's already full. If you've got a half litre glass and a litre of drink, if you pour the whole litre in, your glass will still be full, but you won't have any more than half a litre in your glass.

What you want to buy is...bread you like and enjoy eating. Yes, whole grains are somewhat better for you, and no, you probably don't want HFCS and such, but if you don't like it....don't eat it.