Ketogenic Diet

If you want to discuss the diet, not discuss why others think you shouldn't do it, I'd suggest joining

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/forums/show/411-low-carber-daily-forum-the-group-

folks there will be happy to discuss ketogenic diets with you.

After 30 years of personal training, I 'd never suggest my clients do that low of carbs. The fats are too high as well. You are risking metabolic damage. Your macros are not going to help you train as the other user mentioned. I'm sure others in the forum are going to give you more info, but you asked and for permanent weight loss, I'd revisit. I wish you luck though!! Fleshing this out is hard!
I'm happy to help if you have questions.

Im probably going to do the diet 3 to 4 months tops. Its just a means to burn off stored body fat quickly.

Keto won't do that any better than eating at an equivalent caloric deficit using any of a million other macro ratios. If you want to do keto, go for it - but understand it won't be the keto causing fat loss, it will be the caloric deficit.

In fact, many people end up gaining fat on keto because certain charlatans out there peddle it as a way of being able to eat as much as you want...grrrrrr...

For the love that's all good in the world.

OP: "WIth that being said I would only like to discuss the diet and not why I should not use this diet."

Oh and BTW Mr_Knight, I enjoy your new avatar better than the last. I giggled at it upon first reading through this thread....

...and now, I realize...it's YOU!

OP, if you google "nutritional ketosis", you will get a whole load of great information.

Any "diet" will work. The larger issue is with most people not being able to stick to any diet. If a ketogenic diet is something that you can follow and stay in a calorie deficit while doing the work you need to keep fit then it is a good diet for you. If you cut sugar (all forms), starch (i.e., potatoes, rice, etc) and grains (bread, rolls, pancakes...) and focus eating other fats, meats, and vegetables you'll probably do just fine as long as you don't overeat. If you track what you eat you should be successful; if you guess portions it will be more challenging. Since you seem to have a good reason to stay motivated to lose I expect you will have a better chance than many others. BTW, I do a ketogenic diet but am doing so with the plan on seeing how it impacts my own physical, i.e., BP, cholesterol, etc. after a few months. I've been losing between 0.5 and 1 pound per week with no adverse effects. Given that I am about twice your age and not going to the gym nearly as often as I should, this seems pretty reasonable in terms of a loss to me. The most challenging thing I have come across is with items having more carbs than I had expected and with keeping protein under control. Getting enough good quality fat is less of an issue. I use a higher % of fat, lower carbs than you are using as well.

I hear you. I love it too. This week I've had meals like ribeye steak fried in butter, linguica pork sausage cooked in butter and wine with roasted bell pepper, shepards pie with cauliflower mash (made with loads of butter and cream). And I can have my Lindt dark chocolate treat every day. Oh yeah, loads of bacon for breakfast and heavy cream in my coffee.

Still feeling great and losing weight after many months.....teehee love it! :drinker:

Cortisol levels will skyrocket, your kidneys will hate you, your breath/sweat will start to smell like paint thinner, your endurance and strength will tank, you'll be in a foul mood most of the time, and you risk going into a hypoglycemic coma. All this for a six pack. To each their own I suppose. And yes I've done a keto diet before.

This is a ridiculous scare tactic. None of what you have written above has occurred to me. Relax.

BLAH BLAH BLAH

Do what makes you happy seriously!!!!!

I did it for 7 weeks I was super successful, Went from 22% bodyfat to 15.4%, losing 8 lbs. I loved the experience and challenge, while doing Ketogenic. I lost a good amount of fat. I was shredded, It never once affected my workout and I was always in a good mood.
I got blood work done while i was on and everything was perfect. I would try to stay away from saturated fats and focus more on the good fats. My skin was glowing because I focused more on salmon & mac oil

I was thinking of doing a 4 week cycle, because I lost a lot of bodyfat fast. I don't want to lose that much either this time around.

Good Luck

So essentially what your saying is that I am going to die from eating foods high in fat with moderate protien and several servings of veggies a day.

No, that's not what he's saying.

Try again.

Ketosis is not good for us. It's a back up plan for when glucose (the main fuel) runs out. The body only uses a small portion of it before the rest exit though the urine.

Anyone trying to throw the Inuit or masaai tribes in this conversation need to do more research.
Inuit suffer from severe constipation (they even have a god dedicated to farting), osteoporosis, artery damage, and aged prematurely.
The masaai (which some will throw in because they eat so much meat), um yea...how many of you "primal" followers drink blood? In their later years they convert to a more plant based diet. And I know someone is going to mention how skinny they are, have you heard of malnutrition? They don't have supermarkets there like the rest of us with Internet access. I'm pretty sure if you didn't consume enough calories you'd look that way also.

But the reason why we go through ketosis is to help in times of starvation. Guess who also go through ketosis? Alcoholics, diabetics (not through insulin) and those who are starving (a.k.a. Not eating enough).

Just stating the facts here y'all.

I wasn't saying you were going to die by any means. I was merely stating that keto diets purposely place your body into a less efficient, starvation state for the sake of losing body fat. But the fact is if your carb intake is too low and your energy expenditure too high then you will develop hypoglycemia and the possibility of hypoglycemic coma. Keto diets are a quick fix and do not promote lasting weight loss in my opinion. Your body is in starvation mode and your cortisol levels are gonna be high so the minute you slip up/decide to splurge and eat an entire pizza, all of it is going to be stored as fat. And while were on the literature citing battle BS rant could any of you show me a peer reviewed meta-analysis that conclusively shows that purposely throwing your body into ketogenesis for extended periods of time will not adversely affect ones health? And no, saying that Inuits and tribal villagers do it isn't really supporting your claim considering their average life expectancy is like 45.