I need to know the truth about stevia!

treeeee
treeeee Posts: 39 Member
edited December 18 in Food and Nutrition
I am a coffee drinker. I used to use sweet n low, then I heard how bad artificial sweeters like sweet n low and splenda are. Fast forward a few days of plain, bitter coffee, and one of the girls I work with told me that years ago she used to have an actual stevia plant - she'd pick a leaf and stick it in with her tea and it would sweeten it even more than sugar. Sounded wonderful!! Well I looked around just a little (went to like two stores..) and couldn't find an actual stevia plant anywhere but at my grocery store, they sell Stevia In The Raw (same brand that sells Sugar In The Raw). The only ingredients are stevia and dextrose. So that's what I switched to.

And then...... the bad news, I read something a few days ago that listed "ingredients to avoid" and stevia was one of the items on the list.

I JUST NEED TO KNOW!!! Is it just as bad as the other artificial sweeteners? Should just I just suck it up and drink my coffee plain?

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  • Bluescat1
    Bluescat1 Posts: 207 Member
    I would like to know also. I have started drinking mine black and I'm just fine with it.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I don't know why stevia would have been on the list to avoid???

    It is just a plant. No processing needed. Pick a leaf and float it in your coffee or tea............Dry the leaves and crush them then sprinkle as needed.

    Invest in one of these.

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  • WhatDoesLisa
    WhatDoesLisa Posts: 214
    The only thing I can think of is they may have been refering to Stevia extract (liquid with a dropper). I bought one that had 10% alcohol and my sister found one with no alcohol. 10% alcohol is like sucking down Nyquil. That could be it.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I don't use the powdered stuff that is extract with dextrose added in.

    I got plants from my local farmers market.
  • prov31jd
    prov31jd Posts: 153 Member
    Here is what I posted on another thread about sugar substitutes:

    "Unlike many other white powder sugar substitutes (think nutrasweet, sweet and low, even splenda), stevia is not some chemical concoction. It is a pure extract from the stevia plant. You can actually harvest it yourself if it is not available commercially where you live. Grow the stevia plant in a pot, and when it reaches maturity, pull the leaves off, put them in a brown paper bag to dry. When they're completely dried up, over a fine mesh strainer, crush the leaves between your hands and sift out the pure white powder, which is the very same thing sold commercially."

    There are many brands sold commercially. My personal favorite is NOW brand organic stevia -- they call it "Better Stevia" -- I guess because it's organic.

    Stevia is a pure plant derivative -- no chemical processing at all. I work with several people from Japan, and they all say they don't know what the big deal is. Stevia has been used there commercially for decades. They even have sodas sweetened with stevia.

    I agree with the other poster also: it is better to get used to less sweetener all the way around, whether it's sugar, honey, or some sweet substitute, or whatever. But I'm telling you, stevia is the most natural zero calorie sweetener around. Actually, it's the only one that I know of that you can grow / harvest easily on your own. I believe it's 100% safe. IMHO, the only people who call it unsafe are either ignorant, or have another agenda.

    Hope this helps!
  • awilke03
    awilke03 Posts: 13 Member
    I asked my nutritionist about it last week & she said it has been linked to liver damage .
  • prov31jd
    prov31jd Posts: 153 Member
    I asked my nutritionist about it last week & she said it has been linked to liver damage .

    I'd be really interested in the scientific study linking stevia to liver damage.
  • irridia
    irridia Posts: 527 Member
    Not all stevia is created equal. I have found 3 brands that are okay. Stevia in the Raw, Sweet leaf, and Pure Via. These all contain stevia and destrose or just stevia. Dextrose is added to fill out the product and make it more usable especially in baking.

    Brands to avoid for sure: Truvia and Purvia. These are manufactured by Coca-Cola and Pepsi co respectively. They both have sugar alcahols in them which can cause intestinal destress. The store brands of Kroger and Western family also have sugar alcahols.

    Usully to find stevia plants you have to go to an actual nursury. You can over winter your stevia by cutting it off at the stem and keeping it in a dark environment. Best harvest is at the end of the season, that is when it is the sweetest.

    Stevia can actually help drive down/stabalize blood sugar. I avoid everything else.
  • irridia
    irridia Posts: 527 Member
    I asked my nutritionist about it last week & she said it has been linked to liver damage .

    I'd be really interested in the scientific study linking stevia to liver damage.

    Yeah, like who paid for the study, and what was in/on it besides stevia?! How was it refined?, etc. "Studies" said the same thing about comfrey and yet I've found out that it is used cullinarily through out the world as salsify. All gormet and everything.
  • irridia
    irridia Posts: 527 Member
    this article has pretty much everything I've ever read regarding stevia. I started using it before it was commercially available other than a supplement in the health food section of grocery stores; along with some stuff I hadn't read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia
  • murphy612
    murphy612 Posts: 734 Member
    It's important to keep in mind that just because it's a plant doesn't mean there are no health risks. There seems to be the common misconception that "all natural" means healthy. Oleander's are just a plant/flower, but I won't be putting that in my tea any time soon :tongue:

    Having said that, Stevia is my 0 calorie sweetner of choice. The lesser of the evils maybe? I have also read evidence of increased occurances of mouth/throat cancer for people who drink it in large quantities in South America. Emphasis on LARGE quantities. I'm a huge Yerba Matte fan and when researching the whole culture of the tea I came across this information. Please don't yell at me asking for proof, I'm not saying this is fact, fiction, or myth, I'm just expressing my reason for trying to limit how much I use. I like it to sweeten my drinks but I doubt I'd cook with it.

    Like just about anything I think the key is moderation :wink:
  • pantsdailyon
    pantsdailyon Posts: 173 Member
    The only thing I can think of is they may have been refering to Stevia extract (liquid with a dropper). I bought one that had 10% alcohol and my sister found one with no alcohol. 10% alcohol is like sucking down Nyquil. That could be it.

    I don't see how a few drops of something with 10% alcohol would be like "sucking down" anything.
  • lmbigsby
    lmbigsby Posts: 36
    Just planted my first 2 stevia plants yesterday.
  • treeeee
    treeeee Posts: 39 Member
    Thanks so much for all of the info everyone. I think I may put a little more effort into finding my very own stevia plant. Other than that... for now it sounds like Stevia in the Raw or the Better Stevia that was suggested are the best options for my morning coffee.

    I really appreciate the responses!
  • yubafarm
    yubafarm Posts: 28 Member
    Does anyone have an opinion on Stevita, http://stevitastevia.com/. I just invested in a container of the powdered form ($20!! but you do save money this way) to reduce waste from all of the little packets, but it says they use natural products from plant to crystalize the product:

    From their website:
    **To make it possible to package the powder in small individual servings and to make it easier to measure for cooking purposes, we add in erythritol ,a bulking agent naturally extracted from fruits, vegetables and grains . Unlike other fillers in the market such as lactose, maltodextrine, F.O.S., etc, , erythritol has a very high digestive tolerance and is very safe for diabetics.**

    I know this product is heavily processed, which I am not super thrilled about...I'm going to experiment with growing the plant and using the leaves directly but for now it is soooo helpful to me, it tastes so good in plain yogurt.
  • prov31jd
    prov31jd Posts: 153 Member
    Does anyone have an opinion on Stevita, http://stevitastevia.com/. I just invested in a container of the powdered form ($20!! but you do save money this way) to reduce waste from all of the little packets, but it says they use natural products from plant to crystalize the product:

    From their website:
    **To make it possible to package the powder in small individual servings and to make it easier to measure for cooking purposes, we add in erythritol ,a bulking agent naturally extracted from fruits, vegetables and grains . Unlike other fillers in the market such as lactose, maltodextrine, F.O.S., etc, , erythritol has a very high digestive tolerance and is very safe for diabetics.**

    I know this product is heavily processed, which I am not super thrilled about...I'm going to experiment with growing the plant and using the leaves directly but for now it is soooo helpful to me, it tastes so good in plain yogurt.

    Until you get your own plant going and harvested, there are other brands of stevia that are purely stevia, with no additives, and even organic ones. They are not that expensive either. Read back through the thread -- I think 3 or 4 brands were mentioned.
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Bumping because I'm interested in any studies about health consequences of stevia. As far as I know, the most significant consequence is that it may actually HEAL pancreatic cells, so it's excellent for diabetics. I'm always open to new info though...

    I buy Kal brand stevia from amazon- my local grocery stores only stock truvia and purvia. I made the choice by reading hundreds of amazon reviews on stevia products. It might seem expensive, but a little bit goes a really long way- the spice shaker size I bought has 2300 servings. And the pure stuff is truly that sweet, too- not like 2300 servings but you need 10 to sweeten a cup of tea.
  • Just LIFT and keep calories low. /end
  • mistij68
    mistij68 Posts: 84 Member
    excellent, that was very helpful. I use stevia all the time in my tea.
  • angieleighbyrd
    angieleighbyrd Posts: 989 Member
    i actually found my stevia packets in the vitamin aisle
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    i actually found my stevia packets in the vitamin aisle

    I never thought to look there! Thanks! :smile:
  • treeeee
    treeeee Posts: 39 Member
    Just to update: bought my own stevia plants today! Looking forward to watching it grow and harvesting it's leaves!
  • only_5mom
    only_5mom Posts: 28
    Stevia doesn't do for me in coffee. It is still bitter to me. Xylitol, also from a plant, tastes sweeter in coffee. Stevia is really good in tea and yogurt.
  • I found this article to be very interesting. Again, there doesn't seem to be any extensive studies or material from the American Journal Of Medicine, so people seem to be taking a common sense approach about how it is created.

    http://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2013/04/25/stevia-food-babe-investigates/

    I have one question. Is Stevia better than the other artificial sweeteners? If you feel that you can answer yes to that question, then use it. We are all going to die one day anyway. My point of view may be bleak, but I have grown up during the cold war, when Nuclear War was a real threat, and everything has been identified as a killer. Let's face it, without years of research, no one really knows. Only now is the medical community coming out and saying that low fat diets are in fact very bad for you. Live the best you can, stay as informed as possible and live in moderation.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/stevia/AN01733

    http://www.livescience.com/39601-stevia-facts-safety.html

    http://www.everstevia.com/steviastudy.html
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    the truth is it tastes like nasty licorice
  • uconnwinsnc
    uconnwinsnc Posts: 1,054 Member
    Coffee is only bitter when you brew it at too high a temperature or you use cheap grounds. If you put the energy into finding a good coffee and brew it at the right temperature, I promise you it will only taste slightly acidic but not bitter. A good cup of black coffee has so many flavor notes that you will never notice with sweeteners and dairy.
  • tiffaniedemayo
    tiffaniedemayo Posts: 38 Member
    I've been looking into natural sweeteners, and found two things i like. One is raw organic honey, the other is "Stevia in the raw". Unlike Truvia that is stevia based, and is made with rebiana, and erythritol. "Stevia in the raw" has no other ingredients, just stevia. I have been using it in my morning tea every morning, and have had no ill effects.
    -Also i use Madhava Agave necture, it's organic, and a non-GMO product that is also low on the glycemic index 17, where sugar is something like 68.
    I think it all depends on what taste your looking for, and in moderation.
  • itbloke
    itbloke Posts: 20 Member
    Hi All,

    I actually make my own natural low calorie (close to 0) sweeteners as I couldn't find anything on the market that I liked, and to save some cash on insanely priced sweeteners...

    With Stevia there are two main components :
    1. Stevioside which is about 2-300x sweeter from sugar but has a bitter after-taste (the liquorice type taste)
    2. Rebaudioside which is about 4-500x sweeter from sugar - is a very clean sweetness with no after-taste.

    I purchased 99% pure rebaudioside-a from a manufacture online (very expensive stuff) - and imported it myself. A little bit goes a LONG way.

    I mix it with other sweeteners because as Stevia has a slow sweet sensation onset time compared to sugar, its use in coffee, baking etc didn't replace the sensation of sugar:

    Mogroside-V produced from (Monk Fruit / Luo Han Guo) a melon type fruit from China - it is approximately 250-300x sweeter than sugar and has a very fast sweet onset time - but does not linger.

    Thaumatin is acutally a sweet protein found in the Katamfe fruit in Africa - it is approximately 5000x times sweeter than sugar and acts in a way to combine the sweet sensation in the other sweeteners together while reducing bitterness - very potent stuff.

    Because these sweeteners in their purest form are very intense, I have used organic Erythritol as a filler, it is approximately 60% as sweet as table sugar, and is actually produced from by yeast strain fermenting common sugar! I chose this sugar alcohol as it is the least likely to cause digestion issues (I don't have any problems with it) compared to other more common sugar alcohols.

    Since the erythritol is in small crystals, and the other sweeteners are powdered, I mix them up in a food processor for an even mix in the following approximate proportions:
    1kg Erythritol
    1tbs Stevia - Reb-A
    1.5tbs Mogroside-V
    1/8tsp Thaumatin

    Once mixed up - lasts me quite a while...

    Great for my morning coffee - I use about half a teaspoon, not sickly sweet or nasty after-taste - I have also used this in baking and making my own organic sugarfree dark chocolate... This is the closest thing I have come across that is not artificial and the sensation is very similar to table sugar - without the calories.
  • Stevia leaf is hard to find. Keep looking. About the size of a dime, one leaf is almost too much in a coffee cup, for me. The raw plant is perfectly healthy. Refined and granulated Stevia with, dextrose is not good. Dextrose is another word for sugar. Some companies cut the powder with sugar, to make money. When purchasing any supplement, you have to do your due diligence, until you find a company with a LONG history of trustworthiness. All supplements are not the same. Fortunately, supplements are not regulated by the FDA, (yet) so a companies reputation, and quality, are the only thing that keeps them in business for a long time, and it keeps them honest, without government intervention or control, which equals taxation! In Germany, you have to have a prescription to get Vitamin C! Imagine that! Stevia is the best choice for natural sweetening, along with raw honey. PS. While coffee is high in antioxidants, the caffeine is counter healthy. Caffeine shuts down your duodenum, for about an hour and a half, which is the first 3 feet of your intestines, where most of your nutrient absorption takes place. Whatever you eat will not be absorbed completely, so your brain shifts to starvation mode, and tells your body to absorb and store all the fat that it can find! Also, you system starts to move the food through too fast, further reducing the amount of nutrition rendered from the food. A NEED for coffee, is a LACK of optimum nutrition, or a lack of just plain SLEEP! Get more sleep, or drink fresh squeezed greens juice for an energy boost!
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