2014 : 5:2 fasters or alternate day fasting
Lillyloooo
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If your doing any of these this year and plan go stick with it add me or post here ????
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Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.0
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I did ADF for weight loss. I no longer do IF now that I'm in maintenance (focusing now on macros/ IIFYM for fitness goals), but I'll cheer you all on! I loved doing it and it worked beautifully for me
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Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.0 -
Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
I loved doing ADF, lost over 50lbs on the plan, and never once felt like I was suffering. It's not for everyone, but for some people it's a good fit 0 -
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?0 -
I'm doing the Michael Mosley's "The Fast Diet" and have ordered his new book "Fast Exercise." My husband (a Registered Nurse) is doing it as well. He says "it just makes good sense." Watched his documentary on Netflix and learned about him and how he came up with his theories. My husband lost so much weight doing 5:2 he had to cut back to only fasting one day a week. It hasn't worked that well for me; however, I do find I can lose if I'm good on my feed days and otherwise I maintain. I'm currently in a "Biggest Loser" contest at work that we just started Jan 13 and we are going until our final weigh in date of June 2. I'm using myfitnesspal to log my calories and exercise. I'm hopeful I can get to my goal weight of losing 30 lbs and then continuing the 5:2 to maintain. Would love to be your friend! I like knowing that I'm doing my insides good as well as losing the weight. 0
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Huh? Don't see the relevance of your comment at all - your still need a net deficit to lose weight.
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?
BTW I averaged over 5000 cals of exercise a week last year while doing 5:2.
You seem to have some very odd perceptions of IF.0 -
I've just completed my first fast day! :happy: I read a lot about the benefits, and thought I could use the discipline. I'm planning to fast on Fridays and Monday, so that I can be a little more relaxed about what I eat over the weekend.
Feel free to add me :flowerforyou:0 -
I was doing 5:2 but it's easier for me, and more satisfying, to eat zero calories on a fasting day than to try and keep it at 500. I'm moving towards ADF this week and giving it a try.0
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Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
There are a variety of reasons one might prefer fasting over a daily caloric deficit. While *you* might find it unappealing, there are plenty of others for whom it works.
For me, I like the challenge of fasting. I also like the mental clarity that comes with pursuing that challenge. I also like the concept of creating a caloric deficit on those days and not worrying so much the rest of the week. On a more personal note, there is a spiritual element for me; many religious traditions regard fasting very highly.
I can understand how it might not work for some people, but for many of us, it works. To each their own. :drinker:0 -
Huh? Don't see the relevance of your comment at all - your still need a net deficit to lose weight.
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?
BTW I averaged over 5000 cals of exercise a week last year while doing 5:2.
You seem to have some very odd perceptions of IF.
wtv works. Ghandi fasted no problemo.0 -
I'm curious about IF, not sure if I could do it but want to learn. In for inspiration 0
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Huh? Don't see the relevance of your comment at all - your still need a net deficit to lose weight.
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?
BTW I averaged over 5000 cals of exercise a week last year while doing 5:2.
You seem to have some very odd perceptions of IF.
Eh? You need a net deficit regardless, 5:2, whatever.
Do exercise however, and you can eat more like you normally would while not on a diet. Where is the suffering? If you dont want to do exercise, fine, but just eat less of what you did before.
Cannot see the appeal of something so unnatural as practically starving yourself for 2 days per week.0 -
Huh? Don't see the relevance of your comment at all - your still need a net deficit to lose weight.
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?
BTW I averaged over 5000 cals of exercise a week last year while doing 5:2.
You seem to have some very odd perceptions of IF.
Eh? You need a net deficit regardless, 5:2, whatever.
Do exercise however, and you can eat more like you normally would while not on a diet. Where is the suffering? If you dont want to do exercise, fine, but just eat less of what you did before.
Cannot see the appeal of something so unnatural as practically starving yourself for 2 days per week.
:huh: Yeah, ok you keep thinking this way. Doesn't change the fact that IF is a valid method and lots of people enjoy doing it and have had great results. If you're not interested in it that's fine, but you're arguing against people who have actually done it and have had nothing but good experiences with it.0 -
Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Huh? Don't see the relevance of your comment at all - your still need a net deficit to lose weight.
Here's a thought for you..... Having a daily deficit was a lot less appealing to me than 5:2 when I was losing weight.Why fast or suffer? Couldnt think of anything less appealing.
Isnt that what exercise is about? So that you can give yourself allowances to eat what you find more enjoyable?
BTW I averaged over 5000 cals of exercise a week last year while doing 5:2.
You seem to have some very odd perceptions of IF.
Eh? You need a net deficit regardless, 5:2, whatever.
Do exercise however, and you can eat more like you normally would while not on a diet. Where is the suffering? If you dont want to do exercise, fine, but just eat less of what you did before.
Cannot see the appeal of something so unnatural as practically starving yourself for 2 days per week.
Doing 5:2 (or 16:8, or ADF) doesn't mean you can't exercise - no idea why you think that is the case.
You seem to be missing the point so let me reiterate - you can exercise doing 5:2, I wouldn't have attempted my 100 mile cycle ride on a fasting day obviously but I do exercise when fasted.
Some people prefer 2 days at a large deficit and 5 days eating normally as opposed to a calorie deficit every day. Just because it isn't your preference doesn't make it wrong or unnatural.
Do you really think a perfectly calorie and macro balanced day every single is a natural way to eat? That's only been possible since refrigeration. Have you ever considered why we store excess energy as fat? It's to get through periods where food isn't so readily available.0 -
i'm curious too. would like to start but would need motivation on fast days!0
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i'm curious too. would like to start but would need motivation on fast days!
You can send me a message/friend request if you'd like some help getting started I no longer do ADF now that I'm in maintenance and have shifted focus from weight loss to fitness goals, but I truly enjoyed doing IF and I believe it's a great option for some people. 0 -
I started yesterday, supporting my other half, but was pleasantly surprised how easy it actually was.....feel free to add me!0
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its not for me but ive heard a lot of people doing well on this so if its something you wanna do go for it!0
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I've been intermittent fasting for most my life (I don't eat in the morning) and I train fasted as well. Even as a kid I never enjoyed eating in the morning, but never realized I was fasting. But I've strictly been IF for the last 4 years, everyday... I'll never eat any other way now.
Pretty much I eat from 2-8pm every day. I love it... eating in the morning makes me tired, lethargic and grumpy. Plus I get more satiation from 2-3 larger meals than 6 tiny meals.
It's not for everyone tho, especially woman, since IF can really screw with their hormones.
But a few studies have shown that we likely evolved to eating like this, since way back in our hunter/gather phase of humanity, there was no such thing as refrigeration, we had to wake up every morning and go gather or hunt for our food. There was no such thing as 'breakfest' and only ate til much later in the day.
A few key benefits like, Insulin sensitivity, is dramatically improved with IF or various other fasting protocols. But one of the biggest benefits, HGH (human growth hormone) also increases up to 2200% in some studies done on IF. Longevity is increased, stamina, endurance. Everything improves when you include some sort of fasting regimen in your life. Not to mention it gives your digestive system a break, which improves nutrient uptake due to the villi on your small intestines gaining more surface area to absorb food.
All in all, fasting protocols have a long laundry list of studies showing their benefits over traditional eating. I suggest anyone interested doing their own research and educate yourself on the matter.
Great site that has a ton of actual real studies and information on IF and fasted training.
http://www.leangains.com
At the end of the day tho, your diet still needs to be spot on, you still can;t eat whatever the hell you want. Calories in calories out. Also, IF is just not for everyone... really just comes down to whatever eating protocol works for you at the end of the day. There's no right or wrong way to eat, as long as your nutrition is spot on at the end of the day. Just find whatever works for you and run with it.
Biggest advice I can give to anyone starting a fasting protocol, is to stick with it for at least a month. There is a thing called 'hormonal' entrainment' that your body starts to sync into a rhythm on. Once it does, fasting becomes super easy, your energy sky rockets during your fasting phase and hunger no long becomes an issue.0 -
I started the 5:2 diet on 6th January this year and have lost 3kg so far.
Feel free to add me :bigsmile:0 -
I've started ADF or "JUDDD" two weeks ago and so far, I'm loving it.
For those of you who were successful with this version of IF: Did you split your 500 calories over two or three small meals or did you focus on one 500-caloriy meal a day?0 -
I"m doing ADF having bought Krista Varady's book the Every Other Day Diet. I'm finding it actually easier than 5:2 as it's more structured - you know from one day to the next what you're meant to be doing! I don't find I binge on the 'feast' days and so far have lost 2lbs. I have come to actually quite like the feeling of hunger on fast days (I usually have most of my 500 cals at supper time) and wake up feeling lighter in the morning, when I know I have a day when I can eat anything I like.
I think the thing is to try it, and see how it is for you. Everyone is different, and different things work for everyone.:)0 -
Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Oh for goodness sake. Is this a wind up?
So if that isnt rocket science, then I assume that neither is losing weight by eating 200 more your weight loss goal countered by 200 under the next day. Evens out right? If your calorie goal is set to lose weight, then you will lose weight, right? So you eat in exactly the same manner as someone maintaining their weight (sometimes over, sometimes under)
And.... get this. Even if you have a goal to lose say a pound a week, and you finish slightly over come Sunday, chances are you will still lose say half a pound anyway. Woo hoo!!!!0 -
I love it!
Why not try it?
I think each person has to find the style of eating [for life] that works for him/her.
Good luck!
By the way, there are some wonderful MFP groups dedicated to 5:2.0 -
Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Oh for goodness sake. Is this a wind up?
So if that isnt rocket science, then I assume that neither is losing weight by eating 200 more your weight loss goal countered by 200 under the next day. Evens out right? If your calorie goal is set to lose weight, then you will lose weight, right? So you eat in exactly the same manner as someone maintaining their weight (sometimes over, sometimes under)
And.... get this. Even if you have a goal to lose say a pound a week, and you finish slightly over come Sunday, chances are you will still lose say half a pound anyway. Woo hoo!!!!
Are you kidding? What is your disconnect here? Why do people use IF? Because it is a tool to facilitate better eating habits and for most, to lose weight or maintain it. Don't like it? Don't do it. But in the mean time...0 -
Seriously I haven't a clue what point you are trying to make!Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Oh for goodness sake. Is this a wind up?
So if that isnt rocket science, then I assume that neither is losing weight by eating 200 more your weight loss goal countered by 200 under the next day. Evens out right? If your calorie goal is set to lose weight, then you will lose weight, right? So you eat in exactly the same manner as someone maintaining their weight (sometimes over, sometimes under)
And.... get this. Even if you have a goal to lose say a pound a week, and you finish slightly over come Sunday, chances are you will still lose say half a pound anyway. Woo hoo!!!!
Here's some numbers which might make things clearer for you as there seems to be a comprehension gap:
5 days at maintenance, 2 days at c. 1500 deficit. Over the course of a week you are c. 3000 deficit for the week. Just under a pound a week weight loss, slow, steady & sustainable.
You don't want to do it - absolutely fine by me. Everyone knows a daily deficit works but so does this way of eating so why be so negative?
Personally after 20 years of being fat I found it the best and easiest way to lose my excess weight.0 -
Seriously I haven't a clue what point you are trying to make!Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Oh for goodness sake. Is this a wind up?
So if that isnt rocket science, then I assume that neither is losing weight by eating 200 more your weight loss goal countered by 200 under the next day. Evens out right? If your calorie goal is set to lose weight, then you will lose weight, right? So you eat in exactly the same manner as someone maintaining their weight (sometimes over, sometimes under)
And.... get this. Even if you have a goal to lose say a pound a week, and you finish slightly over come Sunday, chances are you will still lose say half a pound anyway. Woo hoo!!!!
Here's some numbers which might make things clearer for you as there seems to be a comprehension gap:
5 days at maintenance, 2 days at c. 1500 deficit. Over the course of a week you are c. 3000 deficit for the week. Just under a pound a week weight loss, slow, steady & sustainable.
You don't want to do it - absolutely fine by me. Everyone knows a daily deficit works but so does this way of eating so why be so negative?
Personally after 20 years of being fat I found it the best and easiest way to lose my excess weight.
I am negative because I think there are much more simpler, more enjoyable methods of losing weight. I am entitled to my opinion. In general, I dont really agree with specific diets as they involve changing a way of eating before and after diet and therefore are difficult to maintain.
As for the numbers. I never questioned the numbers of 5:2 diet. I get it. You questioned the numbers of my explanation while ignoring that you dont have to run at a deficit every day. That's just common sense.
It was the mentality behind the diet that I could never get. Hence my original post.0 -
Seriously I haven't a clue what point you are trying to make!Yes you need a deficit to lose weight - it is just over the course of an entire week instead of every day. Not rocket science!
Oh for goodness sake. Is this a wind up?
So if that isnt rocket science, then I assume that neither is losing weight by eating 200 more your weight loss goal countered by 200 under the next day. Evens out right? If your calorie goal is set to lose weight, then you will lose weight, right? So you eat in exactly the same manner as someone maintaining their weight (sometimes over, sometimes under)
And.... get this. Even if you have a goal to lose say a pound a week, and you finish slightly over come Sunday, chances are you will still lose say half a pound anyway. Woo hoo!!!!
Here's some numbers which might make things clearer for you as there seems to be a comprehension gap:
5 days at maintenance, 2 days at c. 1500 deficit. Over the course of a week you are c. 3000 deficit for the week. Just under a pound a week weight loss, slow, steady & sustainable.
You don't want to do it - absolutely fine by me. Everyone knows a daily deficit works but so does this way of eating so why be so negative?
Personally after 20 years of being fat I found it the best and easiest way to lose my excess weight.
I am negative because I think there are much more simpler, more enjoyable methods of losing weight. I am entitled to my opinion. In general, I dont really agree with specific diets as they involve changing a way of eating before and after diet and therefore are difficult to maintain.
Simpler to you, not to others. Stop trying to perpetuate a 'one size fits all nutritional regimen' for everyone.
Key here is to experiment with different approaches to nutrition. Diets in general don't work, since it infers a temporary approach.
You need to find a permanent nutritional plan for continued and permanent changes. How you go about this, is up to the individual and requires experimentation.0 -
I've started ADF or "JUDDD" two weeks ago and so far, I'm loving it.
For those of you who were successful with this version of IF: Did you split your 500 calories over two or three small meals or did you focus on one 500-caloriy meal a day?
Feel free to send me a message and I can help get you started with some suggestions 0
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