Follow up post: Seeking advice.
ALS_1980
Posts: 22
So I recently created my first forum post and was told that my eating habits to date have been dangerous and were not in my best interest. I woke up today dizzy and ravenously hungry. I went to my doctor not sure where else to turn and was told (again) that I am not eating enough and that being very hungry one or 2 days out of the week is my body's way of telling me I'm being too aggressive. The only problem with doc is he can't be beside me every day. Can someone from the community that is willing to lend a helping hand please look at my food diary and let me know if my past few days have been acceptable. Any nutrition advice,food suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated.
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Height and weight?0
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Looked at your diary - looks like you normally eat 800-900 calories a day. Listen to your doctor - you're not eating enough to fuel your body.0
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You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.0
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You've got all these calories left over. Why don't you eat? And how was your doctor able to see you so quickly when all you were was hungry?
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I'm 5'5" 289.8 lbs Highest weight was 306. Started the diet 1/1 and lost all of the weight to date very quickly eating what I've been eating and working out an hour a day and now nothing. No way I plateaued this soon. What is happening?0
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You've got all these calories left over. Why don't you eat? And how was your doctor able to see you so quickly when all you were was hungry?
My primary care doctor is great about getting me in when I need to see him. I complained of dizziness,fatigue and abdominal pain. He knows I'm dieting and having issues. He's great about getting me in but to use him as a source of dieting advice is not his job. I felt so bad I had to go in. For the first 2 weeks starting the diet I had so much energy. No stamina and the exercise hurt badly and I really had to push to get through 10 minutes of exercise. Now I do my hour no problem and my muscles don't hurt half as much anymore but the weight is not moving. Then one day everything changed it was hard to wake up again (like before I started exercising), my A.M. workout killed me,I felt like all I wanted to do was sleep,my stomach was in agony but I had no appetite. I was miserable. After a very productive 2 weeks I was out of the blue weak and miserable. Of all the times I remember seeing my doctor with seasonal illnesses or asthma related issues just being hungry was the WORST I've felt in a looong time.0 -
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Height and weight?
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5'5" ,289.8 lbs as of 1/14 down from a start weight of 306.0 -
Your calories are WAY to low. You are starving yourself big time which will backfire when trying to lose weight.
Use this calculator and figure out your calories you need to lose weight PROPERLY:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.0 -
Instead of going to the doctor for no reason just fix it yourself and eat the calories. This plan works but you have to follow it. It's not that hard. You are acting like you don't know how to eat your allotted cals and it's a mystery why you are feeling poorly. You know why so just do it.0
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You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why don't you do dairy or eggs? Olive oil, avocado? Butter is dairy and so you must do some dairy?0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why are you scared? FAT doesn't make you fat at all... going over your daily calories makes you fat.0 -
Your calories are WAY to low. You are starving yourself big time which will backfire when trying to lose weight.
Use this calculator and figure out your calories you need to lose weight PROPERLY:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
I am going to use that tool right now. It just seems like so much. I've never been this big before and it's messing with me psychologically. When I was 118 I don't recall eating very much at all but that was ok then and not now? I don't get it. I only overate out of depression from sitting around in a cast after repeat surgeries for almost 2 years. Now that I can be active and walk again I simply look in the mirror or touch my body in the shower and get disgusted to the point where I have no interest in food. I can't get excited about eating and see it as "the problem". It's really not as simple as "just eat" to me.0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why are you scared? FAT doesn't make you fat at all... going over your daily calories makes you fat.
I would feel more comfortable eating more if I had a way to know for a fact how many calories I'm honestly burning a day. Is there any accurate calculator that can tell me with a reasonable degree of certainty how many calories I burn daily vs. what I take in?0 -
Your calories are WAY to low. You are starving yourself big time which will backfire when trying to lose weight.
Use this calculator and figure out your calories you need to lose weight PROPERLY:
http://www.freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm
I am going to use that tool right now. It just seems like so much. I've never been this big before and it's messing with me psychologically. When I was 118 I don't recall eating very much at all but that was ok then and not now? I don't get it. I only overate out of depression from sitting around in a cast after repeat surgeries for almost 2 years. Now that I can be active and walk again I simply look in the mirror or touch my body in the shower and get disgusted to the point where I have no interest in food. I can't get excited about eating and see it as "the problem". It's really not as simple as "just eat" to me.
It might be hard at first, but your body get use to it. I promise it works, when done correctly.
But also remember, as you drop by 5-10lbs. you have to go back and READJUST your calories based off of your new weight, so your calories will go down.0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why are you scared? FAT doesn't make you fat at all... going over your daily calories makes you fat.
I would feel more comfortable eating more if I had a way to know for a fact how many calories I'm honestly burning a day. Is there any accurate calculator that can tell me with a reasonable degree of certainty how many calories I burn daily vs. what I take in?
Not really unless you get one of those Polar watches or use the GPS map tracker (Endomondo) on your iPhone/Android phone to walk/run.0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
Someone gave you the calculator. It's at least 2000 at your size now.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why are you scared? FAT doesn't make you fat at all... going over your daily calories makes you fat.
I would feel more comfortable eating more if I had a way to know for a fact how many calories I'm honestly burning a day. Is there any accurate calculator that can tell me with a reasonable degree of certainty how many calories I burn daily vs. what I take in?0 -
Here's a little education and tough love for you...
Starving yourself is not the way to lose weight in a healthy weight. Obviously you're starting to learn this as your body is now rebelling. While it's true that since you're currently obese you can handle a slightly higher calorie deficit than someone closer to goal, the deficit you're currently at is WAY too high to be even close to healthy. Sacrificing one aspect of health to get to a healthy weight doesn't really make sense, does it?
BMR or Basal Metabolic Rate is the estimated # of calories your body needs just for basic function, as if you were in a coma. At your current weight, that number is 2062. It's no wonder you're having problems with energy and pain! Here's a link to a calorie calculator site that many of us here use and trust:
http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
You need to eat more whether it scares you or not. Fat does not make you fat, neither do carbs or sugar or anything else people label as "bad". Eating more calories than your body needs is what makes us fat. Fats are essential for things like vitamin absorption. Carbs are essential for energy.
If you're really that scared to eat more, please get professional help. You need to learn what it means to eat right to nourish your body.0 -
You're eating half or less of what you need to be eating. You were given 1800 calories for a reason, eat them!! Add more protein and fat to your diet in place of some of the carbs and you'll reduce the sugar crash shaky weak feeling. Track fiber, shoot for 25g/day. You still need to feed your body for the size it is now, otherwise you can't expect it to be able to function. The 1800 calories you were given is already a reduced number that is designed to have you lose weight. Undercutting the system is just going to cause you problems. Please listen to your doctor and eat. Real, whole food.
A little scared to add fat. The worst I do now is a little bit of butter on my rye or wheat toast. Ideally where would this fat be coming from? Fish? Chicken? I don't do dairy or eggs.
Why don't you do dairy or eggs? Olive oil, avocado? Butter is dairy and so you must do some dairy?
I cook with olive oil but I don't consume a large quantity of it and avocado I like but haven't eaten it since I started this diet. I really didn't want to eat butter but I was convinced that it's natural and thus better than artificial spreads which are still somewhat high in fat and calories. I was told that "Morbidly obese people like you" (me) "don't need dairy". The person that said that to me is in amazing shape and attends my gym so I abide by the advice.0 -
Nuts or nut butters.
Add some avocado to your lunchtime sandwich, and another slice of meat.
Have a banana for snack.
Or some homous and breadsticks.0 -
Oh, and one person at the gym told you not to eat eggs or dairy?
Sorry, but unless you are allergic those are great sources of protein and nutrition. Have some cheese in your sandwich.0 -
The reason it was ok for you to eat less when you were 118 is because your body didn't need as many calories. See above my post re: BMR. At 118, your BMR was about 1300 calories. You need 700 more calories per day at your current weight.
Please don't listen to advice about nutrition from people at the gym. Most of that is complete nonsense. There are no bad foods (unless of course you have an allergy or intolerance).
And not to beat a dead horse but after reading your post about how your body disgusts you and makes you not want to eat anything, I'm still thinking some counseling might be in order. That's not healthy thinking.0 -
Nuts or nut butters.
Add some avocado to your lunchtime sandwich, and another slice of meat.
Have a banana for snack.
Or some homous and breadsticks.
I was told to avoid fruits high in sugar to prevent spiking my GI. I wanted an apple BAAADLY yesterday but didn't eat one because of the sugar. Hummus on crackers I used to LOVE. I will definitely grab some avocados. In lieu of cheese I use Tofetti vegan cheese as well as vegan soy/tofu meatless products on my sandwiches. I love nuts,especially cashews which I actually ate an oz of yesterday! First time I've eaten over 1,000 calories in a few weeks.0 -
1800kcal over 4 meals works out to 450 calories per meal.
Aim for that, and start eating real food. No more nutrition bars for breakfast and no more incomplete meals. Vary your diet.
I agree with the person who said eat more protein and get some fats into your diet. Your body needs fat to survive. Eat as close to the numbers MFP is giving you as you can.0 -
Nuts or nut butters.
Add some avocado to your lunchtime sandwich, and another slice of meat.
Have a banana for snack.
Or some homous and breadsticks.
I was told to avoid fruits high in sugar to prevent spiking my GI. I wanted an apple BAAADLY yesterday but didn't eat one because of the sugar. Hummus on crackers I used to LOVE. I will definitely grab some avocados. In lieu of cheese I use Tofetti vegan cheese as well as vegan soy/tofu meatless products on my sandwiches. I love nuts,especially cashews which I actually ate an oz of yesterday! First time I've eaten over 1,000 calories in a few weeks.
Oh my you won't even eat an apple??? I'm sorry but those luna bars you are eating every day have more sugar than an apple. And not eating eggs or dairy is the dumbest advice I've heard. A luna bar for breakfast is neither filling not healthy (I eat them on occasion for a snack). You also need more protein. Try eggs or egg whites with veggies for breakfast. Cheese can be a part if a healthy diet I eat it daily almost. One person telling you not to eat eggs or dairy does not make it true. Fuel your body. Be smart. It's the right thing to do otherwise this will not work for you.0 -
You've been told what you need to do. Eat more. So, do it. That's what will help you lose weight and be healthy. It also sounds like you could use a little basc nutrition education. I would ask your doctor if s/he can refer you to a nutirtionist to help develop a diet for you. In the meantime, this might help.
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/0 -
Nuts or nut butters.
Add some avocado to your lunchtime sandwich, and another slice of meat.
Have a banana for snack.
Or some homous and breadsticks.
I was told to avoid fruits high in sugar to prevent spiking my GI. I wanted an apple BAAADLY yesterday but didn't eat one because of the sugar. Hummus on crackers I used to LOVE. I will definitely grab some avocados. In lieu of cheese I use Tofetti vegan cheese as well as vegan soy/tofu meatless products on my sandwiches. I love nuts,especially cashews which I actually ate an oz of yesterday! First time I've eaten over 1,000 calories in a few weeks.
It doesn't spike your GI enough to do anything....that's the same concept of idiot bodybuilders who want to be as huge as possible eating carbs. (Kit-Kat bars, Reese's Cups, Gummy Bears) immediately after a workout.
Eat anything you want, seriously. Just weigh/measure it and make sure it doesn't put you over in calories. Sugar doesn't make you fat either... it's all about calories, honestly.0 -
Unless you have a medical reason to limit your sugar, don't worry about it. I've never heard anyone be worried about eating an apple! :laugh:
Simple fact of the matter is you will continue to feel like this until you eat more. I eat 2200 calories a day and I lose weight.0 -
The person at the gym gave you the wrong advice!
You need olive oil, avocado, peanut butter etc for your healthy fats.
Please up your calories!
Being obese does not mean you shouldn't eat what's healthy and tastes great.
Being obese means you need way more calories than a 119 pound woman.
You are doing yourself great harm!
Just follow what MFP has calculated for you and you will be losing weight steadily.
Also eat back at least 1/2 your exercise calories.
Eat all the foods, just portion them out.
Your heart is a muscle which will waste away if your not feeding yourself properly!0 -
1800kcal over 4 meals works out to 450 calories per meal.
Aim for that, and start eating real food. No more nutrition bars for breakfast and no more incomplete meals. Vary your diet.
I agree with the person who said eat more protein and get some fats into your diet. Your body needs fat to survive. Eat as close to the numbers MFP is giving you as you can.
What do you consider a "complete meal" ? I find it hard to eat meals..as in a plate of food. I have always kind of nibbled throughout the day a handful of this or that. I rarely sit down to a plate of food. Even as I was gaining the weight I remember snacking a lot on high fat, high calorie things but never really eating plates of food. I need help with this...putting whole meals together while staying under the allotted calories for each meal as meal prep is not something I've ever really done.0
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