Purchasing 2 seats on an airplane
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This photo and its story have been circulating the news. The website has some background program that runs on your PC, slowing it to a crawl, so I'm not attaching it in case it isn't safe. This is the photo taken by a passenger on a 4 hour flight from Perth to Sydney demanding a refund for being seated next to the large man in the aisle seat.
What are your feelings on this?
What are your feelings on this?
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This particular subject has been posted over and over on these forums.
If you need two seats, pay for two seats. The airline should have flagged the over weight passenger and dealt with it discreetly long before he boarded.
These type topics become heated and drive internet readership, that 's why they keep resurfacing. Airlines have dealt with this problem for over 20 years. Nothing new here. A good business treats all its customers respectfully. It's pretty much common sense, no?0 -
I feel bad for the big guy! It must have been tramatizing to be on that long ride, and people took pictures of him. Maybe this will be a wake up call to lose weight! He should have brought 2 or 3 seats for himself, although I understand how expensive it could be...
On the other hand, I feel bad for the guy seated next to him. It must have been hard on that long flight.0 -
He looks so uncomfortable. I can't imagine seated that way even on a short flight. He should have paid for two seats. He's blocking the aisle.
Is this a real photo..not some photoshopped picture?0 -
Hands down this man needs to buy two seats. He physically takes up two seats' worth of space, so he should pay for that space. By squeezing into one seat, he is encroaching on the seat space that the man next to him paid good money for and isn't getting, as well as creating a pretty serious aisle hazard as passengers and flight attendants attempt to get past him. I highly doubt the beverage cart could make it past the gentleman, and that would affect everyone on board if they can't be served in a manner the airline is used to delivering.
It isn't discrimination, it's a simple matter of volume displacement. You take up more space than a standard seat provides, you buy more space. Simple.
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This particular subject has been posted over and over on these forums.
If you need two seats, pay for two seats. The airline should have flagged the over weight passenger and dealt with it discreetly long before he boarded.
These type topics become heated and drive internet readership, that 's why they keep resurfacing. Airlines have dealt with this problem for over 20 years. Nothing new here. A good business treats all its customers respectfully. It's pretty much common sense, no?
^^^^^agreed, I'm starting to think some people look for these types of stories to start a bashing session. ---I love how you pointed out that a good business treat all their customers with respect0 -
I imagine one day they will require people to provide their BMI when purchasing their ticket. This photo just looks like a safety hazard all the way around0
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Wow, look how much taller he is than everyone else, too. I'm sure his legs are cramped in there like pretzels. At any rate, due to his width he should have bought two seats or the airline should have pulled him aside before boarding. At least he bought an aisle seat, but that doesn't help much when the cart needs to get by.
I don't have a lot of sympathy for the complaining passenger after reading the text of his letter, though: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2531797/Airline-passenger-complaint-having-sit-obese-man.html
Edited to add - this can't be a photo of the actual passenger, since the letter states that they were seated in the emergency aisle.0 -
I imagine one day they will require people to provide their BMI when purchasing their ticket.
Which would be yet another reason I avoid commercial aircraft.0 -
I don't think the photo is real. No airline attendants would let a flight take off with someone unable to buckle all the way.0
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Is this real? I'd be surprised if this was allowed. Someone blocking the aisle like that is surely a safety hazard if the plane needed evacuation. And he surely couldn't wear a seat belt. I feel for the big guy more if this is real. That must have been uncomfortable and embarrassing for him.0
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Even at my size, 6'2'', most airplane seats are damm uncomfortable (esp. when the jerk in front in front of me reclines his seat into my knees). Economy Plus or 1st will usually work out.0
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There's different stories circulating online about this particular photo.
I do believe the gentleman would've been more comfortable occupying 2 seats. He is however hanging onto the isle, not on the guy next to him, so i don't think that guy is entitled to a refund.
As harsh as this might sound, weight is a big deal on a plane, extra weight makes the fuel cost go up (that's why you have a limit for luggage weight, and pay extra for a second piece), so...yes, 2 tickets should have been bought.0 -
Even at my size, 6'2'', most airplane seats are damm uncomfortable (esp. when the jerk in front in front of me reclines his seat into my knees). Economy Plus or 1st will usually work out.
I am sorry, but i am not a jerk for reclining my seat.0 -
I am wondering if this is a doctored picture, just to inflame. So much can be done with digital photography.
From what I hear seating is small even for a naturally small adult!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no need to fly.0 -
He looks really uncomfortable, and it's definitely not safe for him or the other passengers for him to be riding like that. He's blocking the aisle and isn't wearing a seatbelt, but even if he had a seatbelt I doubt the seat could hold him in place in a crash.
The airline should have made their policy about overweight passengers clear so he'd know to buy 2 seats, and should have dealt with him when he checked in & only claimed one seat. (OTOH, wouldn't that be considered an accomodation for a disability, so he wouldn't have to pay for it?)
If he'd been overflowing the other way, taking over the middle seat so that passenger had nowhere to sit I would agree with at least refunding his ticket price, probably giving him an upgrade on his next (free) flight.0 -
if you're too fat to fit in one seat, you should buy two seats for safety reasons AND to avoid pissing off the other customers, it's pretty simple.. if a mother boarded a plane with her baby, and tried to claim that she only needed one seat because she could squeeze them both in it wouldn't be allowed, because they wouldn't fit and it would be dangerous.0
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actually this is allowed and happens often... if a mother boarded a plane with her baby, and tried to claim that she only needed one seat because she could squeeze them both in it wouldn't be allowed, because they wouldn't fit and it would be dangerous.0 -
Yes, I've travelled with a lap baby. You still pay for them (less) and they give you a special seat belt for the baby that attaches to your own. Quite normal.0
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There's different stories circulating online about this particular photo.
I do believe the gentleman would've been more comfortable occupying 2 seats. He is however hanging onto the isle, not on the guy next to him, so i don't think that guy is entitled to a refund.
As harsh as this might sound, weight is a big deal on a plane, extra weight makes the fuel cost go up (that's why you have a limit for luggage weight, and pay extra for a second piece), so...yes, 2 tickets should have been bought.
^ This. I agree with the above poster who said it should have been handled discretely, but weight is directly related to fuel consumption, and fuel costs are paramount when it comes to airline profit/loss. So, long story short, bad situation for all concerned.0 -
My husband flys southwest weekly. This happens to him about 50% of the time. Once in a while it will be so bad he emails customer service and they throw some points our way - basically saying why did I pay for this other person to have half my seat....0
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Even at my size, 6'2'', most airplane seats are damm uncomfortable (esp. when the jerk in front in front of me reclines his seat into my knees). Economy Plus or 1st will usually work out.
I am sorry, but i am not a jerk for reclining my seat.
Exactly! Exit rows and first class have more leg room.0 -
if you're too fat to fit in one seat, you should buy two seats for safety reasons AND to avoid pissing off the other customers, it's pretty simple.. if a mother boarded a plane with her baby, and tried to claim that she only needed one seat because she could squeeze them both in it wouldn't be allowed, because they wouldn't fit and it would be dangerous.
It's called traveling with "infant in arms" and you absolutely can do it, you just need to let the airline know when checking in (if you use the self-check in kiosks, it will specifically ask if you're doing it), because you need to be seated where there are infant life vests and additional oxygen masks.0 -
Well for starters he would not have been allowed to sit like that in the seat, he's blocking the aisle and therefore creating a hazard, so there is the 1st clue to it being fake.
The person allowing him to check-in would have noticed his size & alerted him that he would have to buy another seat, another sign it's fake.
Then there is the matter of the seat belt... I know they have 'extenders' but it would still have not made him 'safe' at all due to where he is.
There you go enough reasons as to why it's fake.0 -
Even at my size, 6'2'', most airplane seats are damm uncomfortable (esp. when the jerk in front in front of me reclines his seat into my knees). Economy Plus or 1st will usually work out.
LOL so someone is a jerk for doing what the seat allows them to do, really??0 -
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/02/travel/samoa-air-fare-by-weight/
We will probably see more and more of this.0 -
The first time I saw this, it was an American Airlines flight, not an Australian one.
It looks "shopped" to me. I thought any obstruction of the aisles was a violation of air safety regulation?0 -
. if a mother boarded a plane with her baby, and tried to claim that she only needed one seat because she could squeeze them both in it wouldn't be allowed, because they wouldn't fit and it would be dangerous.
this is a great example of think/look something up before you type..0 -
if you're too fat to fit in one seat, you should buy two seats for safety reasons AND to avoid pissing off the other customers, it's pretty simple.. if a mother boarded a plane with her baby, and tried to claim that she only needed one seat because she could squeeze them both in it wouldn't be allowed, because they wouldn't fit and it would be dangerous.
Infants under two years old can sit in a parent's lap as long as it is documented, and there is no need to purchase a seat for them unless there is reason for them to occupy it (international flights, etc.).
Back to the OP...when my parents began feeling uncomfortable in airplane seats, they began booking first class tickets. I know price can make it an issue, but for the comfort it really is worth it. And when my mom took me to Las Vegas for my birthday one year, sitting in first class was an added bonus for me.0 -
It's fine to have a lap baby on international flights. I've had lap babies on 12 hour flights.0
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