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  • jhloves2knit
    jhloves2knit Posts: 268 Member
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    Thanks to everyone for their replies. I learned a lot and have set a sugar allowance that I'm comfortable with.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??
  • Tigg_er
    Tigg_er Posts: 22,001 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    Thats not what she posted.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    Thats not what she posted.

    the implication was the sugar drinks cause obesity/weight gain? We all know that is false….overeating causing weight gain.
  • Tigg_er
    Tigg_er Posts: 22,001 Member
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    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    Thats not what she posted.

    the implication was the sugar drinks cause obesity/weight gain? We all know that is false….overeating causing weight gain.

    The implication is stated above. "Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances." And I agree overeating does cause weight gain.
  • jazzcatastrophe
    jazzcatastrophe Posts: 54 Member
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    I've started tracking sugar because I almost always go over - not because of fruit but the daily "treats," which I try to eat in moderation. I have a strong sweet tooth and would feel deprived without them. I don't know what a reasonable sugar goal is. How many sugar grams should you eat a day?

    Fructose (which is part of sugar) does not get metabolized the same as glucose (the other part of sugar) and excess sugar converts to fat.. one of the MAJOR causes of obesity. There are numerous medical research studies that you can read for confirmation.

    But the best proof is in the pudding.

    Get your sugar down to 10 percent of your calories and see what happens.... Do don't have to listen to anybody; you can see for yourself. You will not have to wait long to get your answer. It happens almost immediately.

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity

    Actually during glycolysis (the first bit of metabolism), glucose gets turned INTO fructose before being further broken down.
    So yeah, no.
  • MyFoodGod
    MyFoodGod Posts: 184 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    As individuals we are only able to work on our own weight and health issues. We may be able to support and help others but it's unrealistic to think we're going to cure the rest of the world.
  • bigboyhealth
    bigboyhealth Posts: 6
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    Sugar is a type of carbohydrate and should most definitely be tracked. Losing weight is not just about creating a calorie deficit, it's about eating the right calories. I highly recommend the following video which explains why carbs are bad:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE

    This clips is from the movie "Fat Head" which I also recommend everyone to watch (it's free to do so on YouTube).

    Try to reduce the amount of sugar (particularly processed sugar) and carbs in your diet. Carbs from veggies and fruit is the exception, these should form a large part of your diet.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
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    Sugar is a type of carbohydrate and should most definitely be tracked. Losing weight is not just about creating a calorie deficit, it's about eating the right calories. I highly recommend the following video which explains why carbs are bad:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE

    This clips is from the movie "Fat Head" which I also recommend everyone to watch (it's free to do so on YouTube).

    Try to reduce the amount of sugar (particularly processed sugar) and carbs in your diet. Carbs from veggies and fruit is the exception, these should form a large part of your diet.

    umm that is why we track 'carbs'….

    right, fruit sugar "good", all other sugar "bad" …rolling eyes...
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    I've started tracking sugar because I almost always go over - not because of fruit but the daily "treats," which I try to eat in moderation. I have a strong sweet tooth and would feel deprived without them. I don't know what a reasonable sugar goal is. How many sugar grams should you eat a day?

    Fructose (which is part of sugar) does not get metabolized the same as glucose (the other part of sugar) and excess sugar converts to fat.. one of the MAJOR causes of obesity. There are numerous medical research studies that you can read for confirmation.

    But the best proof is in the pudding.

    Get your sugar down to 10 percent of your calories and see what happens.... Do don't have to listen to anybody; you can see for yourself. You will not have to wait long to get your answer. It happens almost immediately.

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity

    Actually during glycolysis (the first bit of metabolism), glucose gets turned INTO fructose before being further broken down.
    So yeah, no.

    Actually, sucrose is digested into it one molecule of fructose and one of glucose.

    345px-Saccharose2.svg.png
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    Sugar is a type of carbohydrate and should most definitely be tracked. Losing weight is not just about creating a calorie deficit, it's about eating the right calories. I highly recommend the following video which explains why carbs are bad:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNYlIcXynwE

    This clips is from the movie "Fat Head" which I also recommend everyone to watch (it's free to do so on YouTube).

    Try to reduce the amount of sugar (particularly processed sugar) and carbs in your diet. Carbs from veggies and fruit is the exception, these should form a large part of your diet.

    Sucrose is simply a carbohydrate. And carbohydrates are not 'bad'. They are our body's main source of fuel.
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
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    How many treats are you having? Are you measuring it and accurately logging it?

    Are you drinking lots of soda or other sugary beverages?

    Are you also adding sugar to your recipes, coffee, tea etc? Sugar can be a sneaky thing.

    Probably having one treat each and every day is too many.

    I accurately log all my food. I hit 100% of my vitamins, minerals, fiber, protein, etc. I've maintained my goal weight for over a year. I do not drink my calories because there are so many wonderful things to eat. Nothing said here has convinced me that I need to be fretting over my Safeway angel food cake. My daily treats are never more than 10% of my total calories. I think I'm fine.

    I hate alarmists.

    Please don't misunderstand... I do not demonize sugar but i do demonize TOO MUCH sugar and the fact is that the average american consumes 150 pounds of sugar. In my opinion and that of most medical experts, 150 POUNDS is too much. way too much!!
  • LTKeegan
    LTKeegan Posts: 354 Member
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    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    Thats not what she posted.

    the implication was the sugar drinks cause obesity/weight gain? We all know that is false….overeating causing weight gain.

    The implication is stated above. "Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances." And I agree overeating does cause weight gain.


    All I meant was that if sugary drinks can cause weight gain (directly OR indirectly), its not a stretch to think sugary snacks could too, so limiting sugar would be better than not limiting sugar.
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
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    I do not see any reason to demonize sugar. I don't worry at all about sugar. . . I've been at my goal weight for over a year. I did not gain weight because of sugar; I gained weight because I ate too many calories. So even though I now eat a healthy variety of fruits, veggies, lean meat, dairy and whole grain, I always save room for treats, sometimes even processed ones. I consume artificial sweeteners as well.

    Among some of those studies cites is that Dr. Mercola guy, who has been discredited by many scientists. He also doesn't believe in vaccinating children.

    What were you eating too many calories of to gain weight??
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    YES!!! that and other fake foods that have sugar and artificial ingredients. Our bodies were made to eat real food.
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
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    I've started tracking sugar because I almost always go over - not because of fruit but the daily "treats," which I try to eat in moderation. I have a strong sweet tooth and would feel deprived without them. I don't know what a reasonable sugar goal is. How many sugar grams should you eat a day?

    Fructose (which is part of sugar) does not get metabolized the same as glucose (the other part of sugar) and excess sugar converts to fat.. one of the MAJOR causes of obesity. There are numerous medical research studies that you can read for confirmation.

    But the best proof is in the pudding.

    Get your sugar down to 10 percent of your calories and see what happens.... Do don't have to listen to anybody; you can see for yourself. You will not have to wait long to get your answer. It happens almost immediately.

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity

    Actually during glycolysis (the first bit of metabolism), glucose gets turned INTO fructose before being further broken down.
    So yeah, no.

    Actually, sucrose is digested into it one molecule of fructose and one of glucose.

    345px-Saccharose2.svg.png

    The liver can only process a small amount of fructose; excess fructose is converted to fat and is EXTREMELY dangerous

    Joanne Moniz
    The Skinny on Obesity Group
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
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    I stay within 50 and 70, pretty much. Clearly I should be obese, imagine that!
  • Joanne_Moniz
    Joanne_Moniz Posts: 347 Member
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    There is AMPLE evidence for sugary drinks causing weight gain. I can't find anything on sugary snacks, but this is at least keeping in mind:

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/2/274.short

    http://jn.nutrition.org/content/142/6/1149S.full

    "It is important to understand whether sweet-tasting foods and drinks exert a special influence on satiation and satiety. Their high palatability could trigger overeating, at least in some individuals under certain circumstances."

    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/76/4/721.short

    so if people just stop drinking sugar drinks that will cure the obesity epidemic…??

    Thats not what she posted.

    the implication was the sugar drinks cause obesity/weight gain? We all know that is false….overeating causing weight gain.

    I'm not sure who "we" is. But we have always had food; but we have not always had an obesity epidemic. How can we explain obese infants? There is no question in my mind that sugar is the culprit. It will all sort itself out so that everyone is aware. But until that time comes, I just want to spread the word to as many people as I can. But I certainly respect those that do not want to listen.
  • lisajsund
    lisajsund Posts: 366 Member
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    I have cut my total carbs to 30% or less, with a sugar goal of 75 g. Some days I don't eat that number, sometimes I'm right on.
    I still get to have treats but you'll find that they are minimal in the last three weeks of my diary, as that is when I made the switch.
    Add me if you are interested. :)

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