If I lose weight this way is it healthy?

Firstly I reduced my calorie goal to be 1200-1400 a day, as I feel my body can take this so far. I don't think in the long run I'd keep this up just initially because I'm not used to eating so much to get to that many calories. Other people say they feel like they're going to pass out at 1200-1400, but I feel fine, as long as I plan my meals, and all my snacks in advance the day before? Advice on this?


If I lose weight by exercising all of my calories away, that I've consumed in the day, would this be healthy to do? Or should I have some net calories left? I would love to lose my weight quickly, but in theory I've given myself a year of hard work and dedication to a strict diet.

I know people who have burned like 7'000 calories in a day to lose weight before, and it seems fine to do, but in theory I don't want to mess up my health loads.

If you have any tips as well that would be cool. If anyone lives near me it'd be cool to have chat to you as well.

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,222 Member
    Are you saying 1200-1400 is more than you normally eat?
    I don't think in the long run I'd keep this up just initially because I'm not used to eating so much to get to that many calories.
  • I'm used to eating meals with bigger calories in, so yeah. But I've noticed I'm not ill as much now that I'm eating this way because I have IBS and other things, so I end up snacking a lot now. I'm pretty much on a high protein diet. Should I eat more veg to up these?
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,329 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.
  • No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    What would you recommend as far as exercising goes? Do I limit it to half of my intake? Or just do an hour a day and see what that does?
  • rstrode
    rstrode Posts: 13 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    Not challenging you, but why? Isn't the whole point to use the calories you have stored up?
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    Aim for your 1200-1400 cals, plus eat back most of the cals you burn from the exercise. So if you burn 600 you should be aiming for 1800+ calories consumed for the day.
  • erickirb
    erickirb Posts: 12,294 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    Not challenging you, but why? Isn't the whole point to use the calories you have stored up?

    Your body cannot access fat stores that quickly and your body will start shutting down. hair may fall our, weak nail, bad skin, break down muscle to use as fuel instead of fat. The best way with the amount the OP has to lose is set a goal to lose 1.5 lbs/week and eat back the cals burned from exercise.
  • thalia8424
    thalia8424 Posts: 12 Member
    my dr. advised me to limit myself to 1,000/day. i have been very comfortable with this. i am also a very petite (short) gal. so i would think it's fine.
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member


    I know people who have burned like 7'000 calories in a day to lose weight before, and it seems fine to do,
    I think these people you know have been telling you a few fibs. I as 212 pounds man would have to run for over 7 or 8 hours to burn 7000 calories. Use some common sense eat sensible food at a sensible deficit and with some moderate exercise
  • MamaDinger
    MamaDinger Posts: 17 Member
    I eat around 1200-1400 calories in a day, work out for an hour 3 times a week, and have lost 30 lbs since September 2013. I am not starving, I've seen results, and it's working well. It's healthy. When you have lost what you want, you can increase your calorie intake so there is not a deficit and maintain your weight.
  • Aim for your 1200-1400 cals, plus eat back most of the cals you burn from the exercise. So if you burn 600 you should be aiming for 1800+ calories consumed for the day.

    Thank you for the advice. :)


  • I know people who have burned like 7'000 calories in a day to lose weight before, and it seems fine to do,
    I think these people you know have been telling you a few fibs. I as 212 pounds man would have to run for over 7 or 8 hours to burn 7000 calories. Use some common sense eat sensible food at a sensible deficit and with some moderate exercise
    No need to be rude, Its just what they say they do with their trainer.
  • I eat around 1200-1400 calories in a day, work out for an hour 3 times a week, and have lost 30 lbs since September 2013. I am not starving, I've seen results, and it's working well. It's healthy. When you have lost what you want, you can increase your calorie intake so there is not a deficit and maintain your weight.
    Thank you :) I might just do this, as I know I can do this three times a week.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Your skin will turn purple with green spots and your head will explode.
    Or so people would have you believe.

    I've reduced calories to that sort of level, mostly eating ready meals, not getting enough protein and so on in the past - and been absolutely fine. And some of that was while burning a lot of calories everyday too!

    I would have thought you could easily sutain a 1000 calorie/day deficit fine, though of course everyone is different and so on.
  • crystalflame
    crystalflame Posts: 1,049 Member
    How MFP works:

    -It plugs your height, weight, and age into a calculator to estimate your basal metabolic rate (BMR) - how many calories you'd burn if you laid around in bed all day.
    -It adds how many calories you burn from daily activity at your job, home, etc. based on how active you say you are. This is your total daily energy expenditure - TDEE. This is how many calories you need to eat to maintain your weight.
    -You tell it how many lbs you want to lose a week. If you tell it 1 lb, it will subtract 3500 calories a week, or 500 calories a day from your maintenance allowance. So if your TDEE is 2000 calories and you want to lose 1 lb a week, it tells you to eat 1500 calories a day.
    -NOW it adds in exercise - if you burn 300 calories running for 30 minutes, you eat those back so you NET 1500 calories. You should NOT net close to zero or below it.

    Starving yourself will only do damage to your body. You may lose some weight, but you'll reduce metabolic functions and possibly damage your metabolism long term, which means your BMR drops, which means the amount of calories you can consume and not gain weight drops. If you take it too far (anorexia, basically), organ damage is possible.

    You want to be healthy. Lose weight slowly. For super morbidly obese people losing weight quickly may be healthier (reducing blood pressure, strain on their body, etc.), but for most of us, losing slowly will give us the best chance of staying healthy and keeping it off long term. An hour of exercise a day and eating what MFP suggests will get you where you need to be.
  • vinny76063
    vinny76063 Posts: 133 Member
    I was at 1200 a day when i started and i was big & I never counted my exercise against my calories. My friend was trying to do it with me but he was feeling exhausted and tired and he needed more CAL/CARBS but i did it this way and felt fine. Some people were telling me i was doing it wrong and this & that but i lost over a 100 and at my last checkup the Doc said i'm healthier now than when i was 20 so i think it depends on the individual. I also plan my meals and log them in advance........... The ones that were telling me that i was doing it all wrong still haven't lost weight or have but have alot of flab hanging.

    You said a key word that most have a hard time with "DEDICATION"
  • perseverance14
    perseverance14 Posts: 1,364 Member
    my dr. advised me to limit myself to 1,000/day. i have been very comfortable with this. i am also a very petite (short) gal. so i would think it's fine.
    I am on the same kind of diet.
  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    What would you recommend as far as exercising goes? Do I limit it to half of my intake? Or just do an hour a day and see what that does?

    Ok - first things first

    Your body is using calories all day long......heart, lungs, kidneys, etc.......basic bodily function.

    If you give your body nothing to run on (this is like eating 1200 & exercising for 1200)............your heart, lungs, kidneys, etc will have to get nourishment from somewhere. It would be great if our bodies could use stored fat for absolutely everything.....BUT it does not work that way. Your body will also use existing muscle for fuel.

    A moderate weight loss goal will help you shed fat and not muscle.
  • KMasz
    KMasz Posts: 2,720 Member
    How MFP works:

    -It plugs your height, weight, and age into a calculator to estimate your basal metabolic rate (BMR) - how many calories you'd burn if you laid around in bed all day.
    -It adds how many calories you burn from daily activity at your job, home, etc. based on how active you say you are. This is your total daily energy expenditure - TDEE. This is how many calories you need to eat to maintain your weight.
    -You tell it how many lbs you want to lose a week. If you tell it 1 lb, it will subtract 3500 calories a week, or 500 calories a day from your maintenance allowance. So if your TDEE is 2000 calories and you want to lose 1 lb a week, it tells you to eat 1500 calories a day.
    -NOW it adds in exercise - if you burn 300 calories running for 30 minutes, you eat those back so you NET 1500 calories. You should NOT net close to zero or below it.

    Starving yourself will only do damage to your body. You may lose some weight, but you'll reduce metabolic functions and possibly damage your metabolism long term, which means your BMR drops, which means the amount of calories you can consume and not gain weight drops. If you take it too far (anorexia, basically), organ damage is possible.

    You want to be healthy. Lose weight slowly. For super morbidly obese people losing weight quickly may be healthier (reducing blood pressure, strain on their body, etc.), but for most of us, losing slowly will give us the best chance of staying healthy and keeping it off long term. An hour of exercise a day and eating what MFP suggests will get you where you need to be.

    this all the way. slow and steady wins the race.

    Other than that, good luck on your journey =)
  • Valrotha
    Valrotha Posts: 294 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    Not challenging you, but why? Isn't the whole point to use the calories you have stored up?

    Your body cannot access fat stores that quickly and your body will start shutting down. hair may fall our, weak nail, bad skin, break down muscle to use as fuel instead of fat. The best way with the amount the OP has to lose is set a goal to lose 1.5 lbs/week and eat back the cals burned from exercise.

    This question came up with a MFP friend (and I was wondering the same thing). I asked both my trainer and wellness coach, and based on the feedback I got from them, Eric's advice is sound.

    Try this: Enter something small into your food section, then hit complete for the day (you can always uncheck it and keep adding food, so it's not a big deal). I noticed that at the bottom of the screen you'll get a warning saying that you need to take in X number of calories or your body goes into starvation mode. For me, it's 1200 calores. Anything below that, and it's not only counter-productive but dangerous as was mentioned above. Keep in mind that YOUR daily intake requirements may vary from others based on your weight, height, activity, and perhaps other factors. So please don't just take someone elses numbers and run with it. MFP is a great tool to help you find out what YOU need.

    Patience is as important as your workout and diet. Stick with it and do it in a healthy manner, and you'll get there eventually.

    And don't hesitate to lean on folks here for support and advice. Despite a few bad apples, this is a good community of like minded folks.

    Best of luck reaching your goals!
  • VelveteenArabian
    VelveteenArabian Posts: 758 Member


    I know people who have burned like 7'000 calories in a day to lose weight before, and it seems fine to do,
    I think these people you know have been telling you a few fibs. I as 212 pounds man would have to run for over 7 or 8 hours to burn 7000 calories. Use some common sense eat sensible food at a sensible deficit and with some moderate exercise
    No need to be rude, Its just what they say they do with their trainer.

    I don't think that post was ride at all.

    Whoever said they're burning 7000 calories does not know what they're talking about and is most assuredly nowhere near accurate.
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Yea, I'd agree on the 7000 calories thing, if the suggestion is that's regular.

    This is the biggest day I've actually logged:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/diary/geebusuk?date=2012-10-06
    And this was the exercise:
    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/exercise/diary/geebusuk?date=2012-10-06

    I ran 12km (a bit over an hour).
    I cycled for 6 hours and 40 minutes - ok the cycling was slower than I could have been, but I did cycle a total of 80km AFTER the 12km run.

    Ok, I was about 170lb at the time.
    Note that I ate over 5000 calories and the scales were STILL down the morning after.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,329 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    Not challenging you, but why? Isn't the whole point to use the calories you have stored up?

    Your body cannot access fat stores that quickly and your body will start shutting down. hair may fall our, weak nail, bad skin, break down muscle to use as fuel instead of fat. The best way with the amount the OP has to lose is set a goal to lose 1.5 lbs/week and eat back the cals burned from exercise.

    Someone else answered before I got back. Healthy weight loss is having a moderate deficit. I don't know how many calories this person burns as BMR, but do exercise off all calories would result not in a moderate deficit, but a huge deficit. That will not result in faster fat loss, but in loss of muscle and other things that at rather important. As stated, a goal of 1.5Lb/week for this person using the MFP guidelines along with eating back exercise calories would be a healthy way to lose weight.

    The approach suggested is one that will result in plateaus, stalls, and long term rebound weight gain since it will most certainly mess up her hormone balance as well.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    Please read the FAQs about MFP works and don't treat your body like that. You only get one. Treat it better. Your net calories should be your goal...if your goal is 1300...you should net 1300.
  • florentinovillaro
    florentinovillaro Posts: 342 Member
    No! Especially exercising all your calories for the day away so you are at zero net. That is not healthy in any way shape or form.

    What would you recommend as far as exercising goes? Do I limit it to half of my intake? Or just do an hour a day and see what that does?

    Ok - first things first

    Your body is using calories all day long......heart, lungs, kidneys, etc.......basic bodily function.

    If you give your body nothing to run on (this is like eating 1200 & exercising for 1200)............your heart, lungs, kidneys, etc will have to get nourishment from somewhere. It would be great if our bodies could use stored fat for absolutely everything.....BUT it does not work that way. Your body will also use existing muscle for fuel.

    A moderate weight loss goal will help you shed fat and not muscle.

    BUT you can reduce or prevent muscle loss with added weight training and protein.

    Eat the 1200, your body will let you know if it's too much or too little in the way of pangs and binges. If your short and still feel hungry, add 100 calories to your goal, wait a few weeks and see. The key word is sustainability. If you can follow this pattern long term, you're more likely to succeed.

    Only YOU can answer this question.
  • Eleonora91
    Eleonora91 Posts: 688 Member
    If you eat 1200 kcals and burn them all there's pretty much no need to eat at all. Exercise might help you to eat more since you can allow yourself more calories, but you need to respect your net daily calorie goal. Even just burning 1200 kcals is not that easy anyway, I burn 500-700 with a long run, I don't see why someone should burn more on purpose to be honest. Exercise is not a way to burn more calories and lose weight faster, it's something you've got to do for your body, your shape, your resistence. I'd recommend you to follow MFP advices on calories and eat your calories back, especially if you're only eating 1200 kcals. I am on 1200 kcals too and I always try to eat back as many calories as I can because I know that 1200 kcals net is the minimum allowed for your body. If you eat more than that you can save some calories, but not if you have such a big deficit already.
  • MonicaA2013
    MonicaA2013 Posts: 753 Member
    Like most have said its all about how you feel at that caloric number. If 1200 isn't enough then go for more. You are supposed to eat back your exercise calories but not everyone can eat them all. Like for me yesterday i had a large exercise expenditure but hardly ate any back . I just wasn't hungry. But at some point i will go over the calories for the day and it will all equal out. When you begin to stall out on your weight loss, change up what your doing a bit and try again. Not everyone can eat at 1200 calories. Some need more and some require less. If you have a doctor to talk too that would be the best place to start. Good Luck figuring all this out. Its worth it after you get comfortable with how it works.