Eating back exercise calories?

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I'm new to MFP and have heard a few things from reading the forums...

1) you should eat back all of your exercise calories, and
2) you should eat back only half of your exercise calories.

I figure that MFP is already accounting for a deficit when it calculates what my net calories should be, and therefore I should eat back all of my exercise calories (not doing so would result in an even bigger deficit).

I wear a HRM for all of my exercises except swimming, so I think the calorie burn that I enter is pretty accurate. I usually work out 2x a day during the week and once on the weekend, so the difference between eating back all of my calories and only have of them is pretty big (~400 calories).

What do you recommend??
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  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    I'm new to MFP and have heard a few things from reading the forums...

    1) you should eat back all of your exercise calories, and
    2) you should eat back only half of your exercise calories.

    I figure that MFP is already accounting for a deficit when it calculates what my net calories should be, and therefore I should eat back all of my exercise calories (not doing so would result in an even bigger deficit).

    I wear a HRM for all of my exercises except swimming, so I think the calorie burn that I enter is pretty accurate. I usually work out 2x a day during the week and once on the weekend, so the difference between eating back all of my calories and only have of them is pretty big (~400 calories).

    What do you recommend??

    You are on the right track..but even with a HRM, it's still an estimate. A HRM is relatively accurate...probably the most accurate for a steady state cardiovascular event...the further you get from that, the more inaccurate it is...pretty much worthless for weight training unless you're doing circuits...and even then, circuits are not a completely steady state cardio event.

    Keep in mind that you HRM is also counting calories that you would have otherwise burned sitting around watching t.v....you have to account for your basal calories at minimum. I used to cut my HRM burn by 20% to account for this and estimation error for a cardio event. That worked well for me.

    Also, compare what you're getting with your HRM to a 5-10 factor level of effort...I always did this for a reasonableness test. A 5 basically being a walk in the park and a 10 being a level of effort for which holding conversation would be difficult. Note that some exercises would have you at various levels of effort so you would have to estimate somewhere in between...for example, you might hit a 10 during a round of circuit training, but you're also going to have periods of rest...so really you're working maybe an 8 overall.

    It's pretty hard to burn more than 10 calories per minute for any length of time...if you're heavier, you might burn a bit more, but really it's negligible and you want to be conservative as possible. It's not that important that you hit it exactly...in fact that's impossible..you just want to make sure you're provide some fuel for that activity.

    Also, if you're working out a couple of times per day, it is likely you are burning more than 400 calories...I have two a days on Wednesdays where I do a steady cycle for 60 minutes at lunch and burn around 500 calories and then I lift in the evening and I've determined that I burn around 200 - 250 or so for 60 minutes of that activity.
  • meaganmna
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    Thanks for the information! I like the idea of cutting the HRM burn by 20% to correct for any error. So, when you do that - do you then eat back all of those calories or just some of them? In other words, do you keep aiming for the net calorie goal MFP calculated for you (including 80% of the calories from your HRM workouts) or do you make that deficit bigger?

    Thank you!
  • meaganmna
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    Also, if you're working out a couple of times per day, it is likely you are burning more than 400 calories...I have two a days on Wednesdays where I do a steady cycle for 60 minutes at lunch and burn around 500 calories and then I lift in the evening and I've determined that I burn around 200 - 250 or so for 60 minutes of that activity.

    Sorry - I wasn't clear. I meant the difference between eating back all of my calories (usually 800-900 burned in exercise each day) and only half of them was ~400 calories. I was trying to explain that the different philosophies of eating back all calories (e.g., 800) or half the calories (e.g., 400) from working out is a pretty big difference... around 400 calories. So, that's what I was confused about. Should I be eating back those 800 calories on only eating back 400 of them. It seems from your answer that you'd recommend eating back ~600 of those calories that my HRM says I burned?
  • wshultz14
    wshultz14 Posts: 63 Member
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    I don't know... I just exercise so I can eat.
  • refuseresist
    refuseresist Posts: 934 Member
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    It's fine to do either. I go by if I am hungry or not.
  • jakeyuma
    jakeyuma Posts: 335 Member
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    I use my HRM for AVG HR during my exercise period and then plug that into a calorie by HR calculator to get my calories burned. I then eat those back. I have been steadily losing 1-2 pounds a week for several months now. i also snack when hungry (apple, celery, cucumber, popcorn, etc)
  • uncharted01
    uncharted01 Posts: 105 Member
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    i think the reason that a lot of people only eat back 1/2 of their exercise calories is because (like someone else said), it's an estimate. you might have to play around with how many calories you eat back to find your "sweet spot." you could start with eating them all back and if you find your weight loss is slowing down, try only eating half back. good luck! :smile:
  • meaganmna
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    Thanks, everyone! Much appreciated!
  • justjumpit278
    justjumpit278 Posts: 96 Member
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    I don't know if this is correct or not, but I just go by when I'm hungry. If my stomachs growling, I feed it. If I'm not hungry but burned 300 calories during the day, I don't make myself eat those 300 calories.
    But then again, I'm not the most scientific when it comes to this whole weight loss thing. I just listen to my body! My body makes it very clear when I'm hungry - I get grumpy and can't focus.

    But with that being said - if I had a really good day with how many calories I ate, I try not to go to bed with a huge amount left. Like for example, yesterday I had like 650 calories left over at the end of the day, so I ate some greek yogurt with peanut butter after dinner.
  • ashleydawnm16
    ashleydawnm16 Posts: 17 Member
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    I usually eat back half of my exercise calories or a bit more. I usually leave about 200 calories left over just to be safe! It also depends on if I am really hunger still or not at the end of the day
  • LeemTHEdream
    LeemTHEdream Posts: 32 Member
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    I eat my sedentary TDEE-15% + ALL exercise calories....I've been loosing 1.4 lbs per week with this method. I think it all depends on the individual though.
  • fast_eddie_72
    fast_eddie_72 Posts: 719 Member
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    It seems like there's a lot of variation in what people do. So I'll just share my experience. I don't eat back any of my workout calories unless it's a really big work out. Long runs on the treadmill burn some calories and later that day I'm hungry. That is kind of my sign that I can eat a little more. Otherwise I try to stick to my calorie goal.

    According to MFP I've had two days this week when I was massively under my calories. But the scale says I'm right on track to drop 2 lbs. I think everyone would agree that 2 lbs. in a week is good and healthy. I haven't been hungry very often, I feel strong when I'm working out, and the weight loss is on target. So I think the reality is, my calorie deficit isn't as great as MFP estimates.

    I guess you kind of have to experiment for yourself and see what happens. If you start dropping 3+ lbs. a week, your energy drops, or you're hungry all the time, probably need to up the calories. Otherwise, calorie deficit is what makes you lose weight, and if that's your goal, a little more is a good thing.
  • ShannonBEarley
    ShannonBEarley Posts: 94 Member
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    I'm fairly new to this too, and a lot does depend on how you set up your initial information. However, most people seem to suggest eating back all your exercise calories. The baseline MFP gives you is what you need to eat to lose weight at the pace you designated. If you do not eat back all of your exercise calories you will lose weight even faster, but not as healthily and not as sustainably. I would echo what others have said, base it on the results you have seen/will see. Personally, I would start with eating them all back and work down from there. Especially if you have a 1200 calorie base rate! As my mentor told me, you could be in a coma and still burn 1200 calories per day - and you definitely aren't!

    Good luck!
  • brittanyrose90
    brittanyrose90 Posts: 20 Member
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    I eat my sedentary TDEE-15% + ALL exercise calories....I've been loosing 1.4 lbs per week with this method. I think it all depends on the individual though.

    This.

    Except I don't always eat back all of my exercise calories but I do make sure that I have at least 1200 net calories.
  • mlauraa
    mlauraa Posts: 166 Member
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    I don't know... I just exercise so I can eat.

    lol, if you wanna eat more you better exercise:laugh: , thought this was funny :tongue:
  • crazystacey777
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    I don't know... I just exercise so I can eat.

    LMAO!!!! Yeah, me too! LOL! :-)
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,874 Member
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    Thanks for the information! I like the idea of cutting the HRM burn by 20% to correct for any error. So, when you do that - do you then eat back all of those calories or just some of them? In other words, do you keep aiming for the net calorie goal MFP calculated for you (including 80% of the calories from your HRM workouts) or do you make that deficit bigger?

    Thank you!

    When I log my exercise, I log the calorie burn from my HRM less the 20% so that I will net and eat those calories back...there is no reason to create a bigger deficit with your exercise...that isn't the purpose of your exercise and you calorie target is already a deficit from maintenance.

    One caveat here would be that if you accounted for an estimation of your exercise in your activity level already you would be double counting if you then logged that activity and ate back exercise calories...with MFP you're only supposed to include your day to day living type of stuff and exercise is extra. If you want to do that I would highly recommend using an actual TDEE calculator though as MFP's activity level calories are just based on your NEAT (day to day stuff)...so for example, to get my true maintenance calorie goal with MFP I'd have to put very active...vs moderately active on a TDEE calculator.
  • jayjandy
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    I don't know... I just exercise so I can eat.

    I literally LOL'd. Love it! :)
  • bethanycopley1980
    bethanycopley1980 Posts: 75 Member
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    AMEN TO THAT. :)
  • kisha1967
    kisha1967 Posts: 27 Member
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    Usually I try to eat half or more of my exercise calories. It basically depends on if I'm hungry or would like to have a certain meal and need to eat them back.