Confused

I see a lot of people saying they eat back their exercise calories. So if I'm on a 1200 calories diet does that mean at the end of the day, AFTER I've exercised I should have only consumed 1200? Or do I eat 1200 plus whatever I burn when I workout? If I eat back what I burn, how am I losing weight? And I see a lot of people saying, "you can eat whatever you want in moderation". What does that mean? what do you mean by "moderation"? is ONE milkshake for the first time in weeks moderation? How can I have one milkshake for the first time in weeks if it's 750 calories, it would take up more than half my daily calories! I'd only be able to eat 450 for the entire rest of the day. Or by "moderation" do you mean have 2 tbsp of milkshake and that's it? I'm. Confused.

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  • bettyp55
    bettyp55 Posts: 5 Member
    The way I understand it...eating back your calories means that you consume the calories that you burned beyond your 1200 daily calorie intake. I personally do not eat back all my workout calories. I will have a high protein snack or shake after a workout and that sometimes puts me over my daily intake.
  • healthygreek
    healthygreek Posts: 2,137 Member
    MFP already has the deficit built in so if you eat 1200 and burn off 300, you eat 1500 altogether.
    Since exercise calories burned are not always accurate, you may choose to eat back 1/2 to 3/4 of your exercise calories.
    The more you burn, the more you may eat back and still lose weight!
    It's a beautiful system!
    You may indeed have that milkshake if you can fit it in!
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    Moderation is having a kids size shake. Those are about 300 calories. Or just having a scoop of ice cream for 150-200 calories. Maybe not every day. But if ice cream is something you like, then fit it into your calories for the day.

    And yes, if you exercise above your normal daily activities, say 300 calories worth, if you follow MFP how it's designed, you would eat 300 more calories that day. If MFP gave you 1200 calories as a target, there's already a daily deficit built into that. Your normal daily activity probably uses up more than 1800 calories. So if you did 300 calories of exercise on top of that, that puts your total calories used per day to 2100. So yes, eat more than 1200 calories on those days.

    Do you know your TDEE and BMR? You can use this calculator to find out. http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/

    If you post us your TDEE and BMR, sometimes people can help you understand better what kind of calorie intake you should have.
  • Tibblesly
    Tibblesly Posts: 6 Member
    According to that website WBB55 my stats are: BMR 1353, TDEE 1623, Calories based in goal 1299. I'm 5ft maybe 5'1 and I have a desk job for 8hrs a day and my hobby is online gaming/D&D(Yes, nerd here) so most of my free-time is spent at a desk too. I've been TRYING to do under 1200 a day with exercise at least 3 days a week and I've lost one pound, but I always feel so hungry.

    Thanks for explaining about moderation. Basically just make sure I pick treats with low calories. *sigh* Good bye dairy queen blizzards.
  • tdh115
    tdh115 Posts: 52
    Hi,

    I am going to try to answer your questions. I am by no means an expert but these are the things I have learned in the last 95 days. :)

    If you are on 1200 calories (many people on here will tell you that is to low) then you should eat 1200 calories + any calories you "earn back" from exercise. If you record your foods and your exercise on MFP it will add your exercise calories back in for you. It is not a calorie for calorie conversion, so that is how you lose weight.

    I used to not want to eat my calories back, but then I got stuck and my weight would not budge down. I was only eating 1200 calories so I could not cut any calories. When I started eating my calories back I actually started losing again.

    As for the moderation. Basically, you have to work for what you want. If you really want that 750 calories in that milkshake then you have to burn 750 exercise calories. Or you could have it as you suggested and only eat 450 more calories that day, but that would be very unhealthy.

    So if I know I am going out to dinner or do something special on a certain day, I just make sure I walk more or do extra exercise that day.

    It is really quite simple I have found. Calories out have to be more than calories in.

    Knowing that is easy, making it happen is much harder.

    But I have found the more good for me stuff I eat the less I really want the bad stuff.

    Hope this helps. Feel free to add me if you want.
  • Commander_Keen
    Commander_Keen Posts: 1,179 Member
    I eat between 1200 - 1700 calories
    I try to burn 1000 - 1400 calories
    I never eat back my calories.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member
    Set MFP to lose 1 pound per week, if it is not already. If you chose 2 pounds per week, that is too big of a calorie deficit for you since according to your ticker you only need to lose about 20 pounds.
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member
    I eat between 1200 - 1700 calories
    I try to burn 1000 - 1400 calories
    I never eat back my calories.

    And you only lost 6 lbs?

    Each to their own but if using MFP it is designed for you to lose while eating back exercise calories with two proviso's 1) You weigh, measure and accurately log everything you eat and drink 2) The exercise calories are accurate (MFP seems to over estimate them)
  • Kiyalynn
    Kiyalynn Posts: 128 Member
    I don't believe in eating under 1200 calories. I made a point when my diet said to eat 1600 calories a day, that regardless of weather or not I was hungry I would make sure my net was over 1200 (some days my food choices would be low and my exercise high). I really like having a a 'minimum' calorie intake as well as a max for dieting. I also ate back some of my exercise calories and just focus on the 'net' intake for the day.
    Also, if you always feel hungry, you should eat some more. Maybe just add 100-200 calories a day until your body gets use to it. Or eat ALL the estimated exercise calories back. When I first started I put down every bit of exercise I did a day, including the stairs I travel every day... When I felt like I wasn't hungry at that, or was going under without trying, I stopped adding all the little exercise I did, and just focused on adding the walks onto it.

    Also, About the 750 calorie blizzard... I would suggest if you want it... EAT IT. You can shave 250 calories off of three days in the week, or 125 calories on 6 days of that week, (using one of the 7 days of the week for the blizzard)... or heck have one once a month and cut 25-30 calories off a day, would be very easy to fit it in that way. Because get this.. Your body doesn't really care if you go over the calorie intake one day. If you keep your week at goal or month goal, you will still loose. It really helped me to stop worrying about 'Oh **** I went over today', but instead go oh, I was over by 100 today... That's OK I was under by 200 on Monday. Made the stress less, and for the first time in my life I actually saw dieing progress.
  • Austinetc
    Austinetc Posts: 74 Member
    This is a much discussed issue. I now only eat back when I have an intense or long workout. For example, last Sunday I cycled 65 miles (3,800 calories). I didn't try to stick with my daily 1500 calorie limit. But my normal workouts are about 600 calories and not as intense. I try to stay near 1500.

    I once ate back calories, but a nutritionist said that it's a bad habit to follow. You will start exercising to eat, rather than to lose weight. I couldn't disagree. And there is a tendency to under estimate calories consumed and over estimate the amount burned. The more you report of each, the more inaccurate the reporting.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member

    I once ate back calories, but a nutritionist said that it's a bad habit to follow. You will start exercising to eat, rather than to lose weight. I couldn't disagree. And there is a tendency to under estimate calories consumed and over estimate the amount burned. The more you report of each, the more inaccurate the reporting.

    The nutritionist probably didn't know that your calorie goal was calculated without exercise included. When you follow MFP's plan, you maintain the same calorie deficit when you eat back exercise calories. Agree that the calories could be overestimated though.
  • JenRunTriHappyGirl
    JenRunTriHappyGirl Posts: 521 Member
    Hi!

    First, eating back your exercise calories means eating the amount that you burned plus your daily allowance. Daily allowance = 1200, calories burned = 200, you should eat 1400. You will still loose because your goal is already set at a deficit. Which means you are eating less than your body burns with normal day to day activity. You want to eat back your calories burned so that your body has fuel. This helps give you energy, restore needed nutrients, and helps heal muscles after a tough workout.

    Yes, eat whatever you want in moderation. If you used to eat 5 milkshakes a week, go for one. Or, have some frozen yogurt instead. You can enjoy all of the things you used to enjoy, but instead of the whole bag of chips, just a handful. This is where eating back your exercise calories comes in handy!

    Good luck!
  • Kiyalynn
    Kiyalynn Posts: 128 Member

    You will start exercising to eat, rather than to lose weight.

    Whats wrong with Exercising to eat? The exercise isn't suppose to help you lose weight, its suppose to help you be healthier... and I see nothing wrong in going... 'shoot I'm hungry but I'm already high on calories' ... Well, I'll go for a extra walk, grab a big glass of water after, and have this can of vegetables. Sometimes the walk makes me less hungry than I was before and I end up with a much larger deficit than I expected. Plus, I'm not miserable for being hungry, and the dog and I got a extra walk... Whats wrong with that?
  • ChrisM8971
    ChrisM8971 Posts: 1,067 Member

    You will start exercising to eat, rather than to lose weight.

    Whats wrong with Exercising to eat? The exercise isn't suppose to help you lose weight, its suppose to help you be healthier... and I see nothing wrong in going... 'shoot I'm hungry but I'm already high on calories' ... Well, I'll go for a extra walk, grab a big glass of water after, and have this can of vegetables. Sometimes the walk makes me less hungry than I was before and I end up with a much larger deficit than I expected. Plus, I'm not miserable for being hungry, and the dog and I got a extra walk... Whats wrong with that?

    Nothing at all in my opinion, I eat to lose weight and exercise to increase fitness levels, and exercising to allow me to eat more is what kept me going through the first couple of months until I worked out what to eat to keep me satiated at my calorie goal
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    MFP already has the deficit built in so if you eat 1200 and burn off 300, you eat 1500 altogether.
    Since exercise calories burned are not always accurate, you may choose to eat back 1/2 to 3/4 of your exercise calories.
    The more you burn, the more you may eat back and still lose weight!
    It's a beautiful system!
    You may indeed have that milkshake if you can fit it in!

    This! Perfectly stated.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    I eat between 1200 - 1700 calories
    I try to burn 1000 - 1400 calories
    I never eat back my calories.

    Really...'cuz you know your body just burns calories being alive right? you know you don't have to exercise every calorie off right? Anywho, good luck with that if that is indeed true...enjoy the hair loss and what not...should be good times.

    OP...if 1200 is your goal and I'm assuming you put in for 2 Lbs...that means your maintenance is around 1800 - 2000 calories without any exercise...1000 calorie deficit = 2 Lb per week weight loss but the lowest MFP will go is 1200 because at that point it becomes pretty hard to actually get proper nutrition.

    So lets say you maintain on 2000 calories with no deliberate exercise (which is pretty much the average female) and you calorie goal is 1200 calories...that's an 800 calorie per day deficit from your maintenance. Now you exercise...let's say you burn a solid 400 calories (which is a great workout)...well, that activity hasn't been accounted for yet...so now you get 1200 + 400 = 1,600 calories. But you're still at an 800 calorie deficit because your 2000 calories maintenance WITHOUT exercise has now been increased to 2,400 calories with exercise...and 2,400 - 1,600 = 800 calorie deficit still.
  • Tibblesly
    Tibblesly Posts: 6 Member

    OP...if 1200 is your goal and I'm assuming you put in for 2 Lbs...that means your maintenance is around 1800 - 2000 calories without any exercise...1000 calorie deficit = 2 Lb per week weight loss but the lowest MFP will go is 1200 because at that point it becomes pretty hard to actually get proper nutrition.

    I put 1 lbs a week. :( Everyone assumes I put more than that but I didn't. I guess TECHNICALLY it says I should eat 1210 a day. But that's not much of a difference.

    My BMR was 1353 and my TDEE is 1623.
  • deksgrl
    deksgrl Posts: 7,237 Member

    OP...if 1200 is your goal and I'm assuming you put in for 2 Lbs...that means your maintenance is around 1800 - 2000 calories without any exercise...1000 calorie deficit = 2 Lb per week weight loss but the lowest MFP will go is 1200 because at that point it becomes pretty hard to actually get proper nutrition.

    I put 1 lbs a week. :( Everyone assumes I put more than that but I didn't. I guess TECHNICALLY it says I should eat 1210 a day. But that's not much of a difference.

    My BMR was 1353 and my TDEE is 1623.

    If you put in 1 pound a week, it is giving you a deficit of 500 calories a day.

    1210 + 500 = 1710 calories for your daily life, not including exercise. Your TDEE would be above 1710 since MFP doesn't include exercise, unless you are really extremely sedentary.

    If you went with the TDEE - 20% method, assuming your TDEE is 1700, then you would eat at 1360 calories which is more in line with your BMR. If you exercise, then that TDEE assumption is too low.
  • Just a quick note, your BMR is your Basal Metabolic Rate, this is the number of calories that you need just to live if you were in a coma. Generally you should at least eat above this, as even if you are sitting most of the day you will burn more than if you were in a coma. If your BMR is 1353 I would eat at least that. Just my opinion.