Big favour: PLEASE work out my daily calorie allowance

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zealey77
zealey77 Posts: 104
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I know it's a big ask, but I've been dieting now for 4 weeks and so many people (and websites especially) have been giving me totally conflicting advice on what my TDEE and goal calorie intake should be. I'm talking a vast range from 1800 up to 3000!

My age is 39
My height is 6ft 2inches (74 inches)
My current weight is 16 stone 5lbs (231 lbs)
My waist is 37inches (but my belly round navel is 42 inches)
My neck is 17 inches
My BMI is 29%

I jog at a moderate pace for 2 hours a week. I walk fast for about 1 hour a week. I cycle moderately for 2 hours a week. Other than that I am a coach potato.

What should my daily calorie allowance REALLY be? I want to lose 3 stone. (42lbs) as quickly and healthily as possible.

A million thanks and blessings upon you if anyone can be arsed to work it out. :)

Mx
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  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    On the "Hairy Dieters" TV show the specialists from Newcastle university put the two guys on 1400 calories a day. They're a useful reference as they're big blokes and were put on an exercise regime similar to what you describe.

    It's probably on youtube or similar. - here it is Dietitian starts at 29m30s

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  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    Enter this into MFP and it will set your calories for you.

    Since it's 42lbs you want to lose set weight loss goal for 1lb a week

    Log your exercise and eat back 50-75% of those calories and your set.

    If you really want to do the TDEE Method ensure you are logging accuratly, which means weighing food, measuring liquids, choosing the correct entries in the MFP database (no generic, no homemade, non * marked entries whenever possible) do this for about 3-4 weeks and then do this calculation

    Total calories consumed+(weight lost x 3500)/# days then it's not an estimate.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    On the "Hairy Dieters" TV show the specialists from Newcastle university put the two guys on 1400 calories a day. They're a useful reference as they're big blokes and were put on an exercise regime similar to what you describe.

    It's probably on youtube or similar.

    1400 is below the minimum recommended for men. That Min is at least 1800 calories a day.
  • MeanderingMammal
    MeanderingMammal Posts: 7,866 Member
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    What should my daily calorie allowance REALLY be? I want to lose 3 stone. (42lbs) as quickly and healthily as possible.

    Given what you're describing I'd suggest just using the MFP calculation rather than faffing about with TDEE. All of the training that you talk about can be easily assessed in terms of energy expenditure using a Heart Rate Monitor, or even a smartphone tracking app.

    Put your objectives into MFP and let it do the work.
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    1400 is below the minimum recommended for men. That Min is at least 1800 calories a day.

    recommended by whom, where. I was quoting a professional.
  • staveshabr
    staveshabr Posts: 74 Member
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    BMR: 1980
    TDEE:2723
  • zealey77
    zealey77 Posts: 104
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    On the "Hairy Dieters" TV show the specialists from Newcastle university put the two guys on 1400 calories a day. They're a useful reference as they're big blokes and were put on an exercise regime similar to what you describe.

    It's probably on youtube or similar.

    1400 is below the minimum recommended for men. That Min is at least 1800 calories a day.

    NOT TRUE. MFP has just given me a daily allowance of 1530. See what I mean about confusing advice out there...
  • staveshabr
    staveshabr Posts: 74 Member
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    no exercise at all TDEE: 2376
  • zealey77
    zealey77 Posts: 104
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    BMR: 1980
    TDEE:2723

    Thanks, but if my BMR is 1980. why has MFP given me a recommended daily intake of 1530? (I used their recommended settings, and was accurate in my details).
  • yarwell
    yarwell Posts: 10,477 Member
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    Thanks, but if my BMR is 1980. why has MFP given me a recommended daily intake of 1530? (I used their recommended settings, and was accurate in my details).

    The 1530 will be 1000 below the estimated 2530 MFP calculated based on your BMR and activity level.. The 1000 comes from setting 2 lbs/week.

    Edit: Also your BMR isn't specifically a factor in setting your calorie goal, it's just a large proportion of your daily expenditure. Anyone setting "sedentary" and "2lbs/week" is likely to get a target below their BMR - it's just maths.
  • TheGirlsATimeBomb
    TheGirlsATimeBomb Posts: 434 Member
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    if i were you, i'd eat at 1900-2000 calories a day, 40/30/30-P/F/C.
    i'm obviously not you, however, feel free to take the advice (:
  • kshadows
    kshadows Posts: 1,315 Member
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    BMR: 1980
    TDEE:2723

    Thanks, but if my BMR is 1980. why has MFP given me a recommended daily intake of 1530? (I used their recommended settings, and was accurate in my details).

    Because MFP is a computer and doesn't take anything into account aside from the numbers you enter.
  • staveshabr
    staveshabr Posts: 74 Member
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    BMR: 1980
    TDEE:2723

    Thanks, but if my BMR is 1980. why has MFP given me a recommended daily intake of 1530? (I used their recommended settings, and was accurate in my details).

    it recommended i eat 1200 calories a day and my BMR is 1800 so i really dont know maybe it has you losing 2 pounds a week is my guess
  • moonraker2014
    moonraker2014 Posts: 17
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    I'm 6 foot and 185 pounds at the moment.

    I used to run about 20 miles per week up till I go injured in sept 2013 Then my wt was 174 pounds.

    My daily calories whilst I was running and injured and laid up on the couch is between 2500 and 3500 this kept my wt at 174-178 whilst running but now after unable to run have gained 11 pounds to 185.

    So I guess my maintenance level at the moment with out any exercise would be lets say 2000 calories per day.

    So I will hazard a guess and say with your bigger build (6' 2") your maintenance will be lets say 2500 per day.

    To lose 2 pounds per week you would need to reduce your intake to 1500 calories per day:

    This means 1000 cals less per day or 7000 cals per week which is 7000 / 3600 = 1.94 pounds loss per week.

    I've not taken into account your present exercises per week which have estimated as follows:

    2 hours jog at mod pace of 11:5 min mile at a wt of 231 = 1886
    1 hour fast walk at 4 mph at a wt of 231 = 524
    2 hours of 10-12 mph cycling at a wt of 231 = 1257
    giving you the total number of cals burned 3667 this is = to another 1 pound loss per week or you could use them burnt cals to eat a little more if you feel like it (upto 500 extra cals a day to take it to 2000)
  • MaryJane_8810002
    MaryJane_8810002 Posts: 2,082 Member
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    Bypassing all the responses, has anyone told this dude to meet Scooby?

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/
  • SuperCrsa
    SuperCrsa Posts: 790 Member
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    Bypassing all the responses, has anyone told this dude to meet Scooby?

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    YES!
  • zealey77
    zealey77 Posts: 104
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    Bypassing all the responses, has anyone told this dude to meet Scooby?

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    Yes, thanks, but Scooby gave me a totally different calorie intake of 2347! Even I know that's too high. So what is the point of any of these sites if we can't trust them? I guess I just need to pay to see a nutritionist professional then. Surely if my BMR is X and MFP is telling me to eat a lot less than X then that is dangerous and there should be safeguards in place to stop the computer giving such stooooopid advice? :(

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond, but with most of you saying completely conflicting things, I'm still no clearer what my healthy daily calorie intake should be
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    1400 is below the minimum recommended for men. That Min is at least 1800 calories a day.

    recommended by whom, where. I was quoting a professional.

    http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/USDAFoodPatterns/EstimatedCalorieNeedsPerDayTable.pdf

    If he was 4-6 years old 1400 would e great...and sorry a TV show doesn't not qualify as a "professional" in dietary needs.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,268 Member
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    Bypassing all the responses, has anyone told this dude to meet Scooby?

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    Yes, thanks, but Scooby gave me a totally different calorie intake of 2347! Even I know that's too high. So what is the point of any of these sites if we can't trust them? I guess I just need to pay to see a nutritionist professional then. Surely if my BMR is X and MFP is telling me to eat a lot less than X then that is dangerous and there should be safeguards in place to stop the computer giving such stooooopid advice? :(

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond, but with most of you saying completely conflicting things, I'm still no clearer what my healthy daily calorie intake should be

    If you are going to pay someone pay a registered dietician who is current.

    As for what your intake should be MFP worked it out based on what you put in...2lbs a week which is too much with 43lbs to lose.

    If all you are interested in weight loss and not maintaining muscle go ahead and be Hangry lots...but if you are concern with maintaining what Lean body mass you have then go for 1lb a week, eat enough protien and away you go...

    This shouldn't be difficult...if you enter in the data MFP does all the math for you without any guessing...

    ETA: to give you an idea..I am a 41 year old woman. I weight 162lbs and lift weights 3x a week and do 30mins of HIIT a week..I eat 1600 calories a day everyday and lose on average 0.55lbs a week...so if you as a man are eating less than me there is an issue.

    My Husband can eat 2500-3000 calories a day and lose weight...my son can lose weight on 3500-4000 calories a day (he is 19 and has a very active job in a trade, as does my husband but he is smaller) so as you can see it's all based on you and your goals...I suspect you could eat 2300-2500 a day and lose weight if you are moderately active.
  • jimandpam87
    jimandpam87 Posts: 62 Member
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    Bypassing all the responses, has anyone told this dude to meet Scooby?

    http://scoobysworkshop.com/calorie-calculator/

    Yes, thanks, but Scooby gave me a totally different calorie intake of 2347! Even I know that's too high. So what is the point of any of these sites if we can't trust them? I guess I just need to pay to see a nutritionist professional then. Surely if my BMR is X and MFP is telling me to eat a lot less than X then that is dangerous and there should be safeguards in place to stop the computer giving such stooooopid advice? :(

    Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond, but with most of you saying completely conflicting things, I'm still no clearer what my healthy daily calorie intake should be

    Unfortunately, no web site can magically examine your body and tell you exactly the right answer. They are all estimates. Therefore, you have to take those estimates and experiment with what works for you. If you eat 1500 calories and are starving, then eat 1800. If you are not losing weight at 1800, then drop it to 1700. You have to experiment until you figure out what works. And you really should be shooting for 1-1.5 lbs per week unless you want to be hungry all the time. Set MFP to 1 lb per week loss (as already recommended to you). You should lose weight, especially with the exercise you do.

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