Doing a disservice?

By answering questions rather than pointing OPs to resources that they can use to teach themselves?

I wonder if sometimes we are doing more harm by giving a little bit of knowledge at a time rather than helping people see the entire picture.

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  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,219 Member
    I think that depends on the person.

    Some won't bother reading.
    Some only want to hear confirmation that they are doing it right.
    Those who it would help will probably do the research on their own at some point anyway.
  • CipherZero
    CipherZero Posts: 1,418 Member
    Why not both? Give an answer that's an overview, point to full resources.
  • AllonsYtotheTardis
    AllonsYtotheTardis Posts: 16,947 Member
    your optimism is charming
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Meh. People who will take the time to learn will do it of their own volition, not because you didn't answer them directly. You can't teach a horse to fish.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    Meh. People who will take the time to learn will do it of their own volition, not because you didn't answer them directly. You can't teach a horse to fish.
    My dog can count to 5. Don't test me!
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    By answering questions rather than pointing OPs to resources that they can use to teach themselves?

    I wonder if sometimes we are doing more harm by giving a little bit of knowledge at a time rather than helping people see the entire picture.
    so if someone asks you directions in the street do you go tell then to buy a map? Or give them the information that you have in the knowledge that if they really want a more detailed route they will go to another resource.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    By answering questions rather than pointing OPs to resources that they can use to teach themselves?

    I wonder if sometimes we are doing more harm by giving a little bit of knowledge at a time rather than helping people see the entire picture.
    so if someone asks you directions in the street do you go tell then to buy a map? Or give them the information that you have in the knowledge that if they really want a more detailed route they will go to another resource.

    No, but if they asked several directions I might suggest using the GPS feature on their phone to help them in the future.
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    Silly people in research based fields... *most* people just want their questions answered, having to read and stuff is boring.



    Ok, I'm going to duck and run for cover now.
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    The people who really want to know will read what you give them, respond, and do their own research. The rest just want to complain or have someone tell them what they want to hear. I'm at the point where I'll answer questions, but will no longer waste my time trying to convince someone with their head up their *kitten* that the air quality and light are better out here.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    The people who really want to know will read what you give them, respond, and do their own research. The rest just want to complain or have someone tell them what they want to hear. I'm at the point where I'll answer questions, but will no longer waste my time trying to convince someone with their head up their *kitten* that the air quality and light are better out here.

    I am about at that point as well. Laying down the information and just walking away, letting them take it or leave it.

    But some of those people may not know what resources to use to do actual research. We have all seen opinion blogs posted as proof of a concept.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    The people who really want to know will read what you give them, respond, and do their own research. The rest just want to complain or have someone tell them what they want to hear. I'm at the point where I'll answer questions, but will no longer waste my time trying to convince someone with their head up their *kitten* that the air quality and light are better out here.

    I am about at that point as well. Laying down the information and just walking away, letting them take it or leave it.

    But some of those people may not know what resources to use to do actual research. We have all seen opinion blogs posted as proof of a concept.

    But if they really want to know then they will search for answers and eventually figure it out. Even if they don't want to read research studies (I certainly don't have time to keep up with them) then they can find people like Alan Aragon and Layne Norton to help guide them. You really can't do much to help people who won't help themselves though.
  • VelveteenArabian
    VelveteenArabian Posts: 758 Member
    For many people, if they were willing to research something, they know where google is.

    For some people, they could have read so many conflicting things, they don't know what to believe so they ask.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    Maybe it is me but I think at least 75% of the topics that cause people to argue are done on purpose by the person making the thread.
  • The people who really want to know will read what you give them, respond, and do their own research. The rest just want to complain or have someone tell them what they want to hear. I'm at the point where I'll answer questions, but will no longer waste my time trying to convince someone with their head up their *kitten* that the air quality and light are better out here.

    I am about at that point as well. Laying down the information and just walking away, letting them take it or leave it.

    But some of those people may not know what resources to use to do actual research. We have all seen opinion blogs posted as proof of a concept.

    But some of us newbies DO know how to research and think for ourselves. I personally find it useful to ask questions in the forum and sift through the responses. Sometimes I don't agree with what people say, but almost always I mull it over for a while and dig deeper. And I have changed a LOT of what I do based on information people have given in the forums. The veterans & successful folks may feel like they are shouting at stubborn morons who won't listen, and maybe that's true for some, but others of us actually do listen and learn.

    I'll give you an example - thank you to all the folks who say track fiber instead of sugar. I'm hypoglycemic, so thought I needed to micromanage carbs & sugar. I rolled my eyes at all the people who said ignore sugar because I was convinced I knew better. And, well two things happened: I made myself miserable trying to control my sugar intake, and I did a LOT more research on the benefits of fiber. I had learned how to eat carbs successfully w/blood sugar issues, but I still felt that twinge of fear at fruit and found myself passing up perfectly healthy carbs (like beans and lentils) because my carb-fear kicked in. As SOON as I took that sugar column off and switched to fiber, ALL my macros clicked in place. Now I'm eating almost the EXACT same amount of carbs as before, just a greater variety of whole grains, fruits, & veggies. And you know what? My blood sugar is still well under control. An apple isn't an evil boatload of sugar anymore - now it's a fiber superstar. I'm happier. Getting my calories is easier. I listened, I thought about it, I researched, and I tried it. Turns out, THE FORUM WAS RIGHT.

    So some of us do listen, even when we ask stupid questions and sound like we are stubbornly clinging to myths and lies we've convinced ourselves are true.