Bupropion / Phen ran together

So Im on my third day of taking Bu SR and Phen 37.5. 1Bu SR when waking so 7ish, 1/2 Phen at 7am as well, the other 1/2 of the Phen at 3pm, and the second Bu SR at 5ish. Basically dry mouth, dull head aches, joint pain, back pain, chills and tingles all happen from 9am till I fall asleep at 2-3am(insomnia) that being said the focus, drive, and lack of focus on food, shopping, booze , chocolate is awesome. Along with great weight loss, Has anyone ran these together I was thinking maybe only one of each with the Bu at 7am and the Phen 1/2 with lunch at 12ish? Input please

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  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .
  • Psychgrrl
    Psychgrrl Posts: 3,177 Member
    I'd see your doc ASAP about the side effects and potential drug interactions. Your doc should determine the timing and the strengths of the doses--you should not determine these yourself.
  • cheezscott
    cheezscott Posts: 29 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than
    a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    Im worried about after, Im pretty active in the gym and only eat local, organic non packaged WHEN IM NOT drinking 3 nights a week 6 beers a 1/2 pizza wings or a burger. I really thought my clean diet during the day and 800c burn workouts were offsetting that! MSP told me otherwise. I just need to get a headstart w the stack. then eat clean and cut the blowouts to 1night a week and limit food and booze on them. Dont be stupid.
  • cheezscott
    cheezscott Posts: 29 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    WELLBUTRIN doesn't relax you actually its quite the oposite
  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    WELLBUTRIN doesn't relax you actually its quite the oposite

    right ? my doctor asked me if I was ever diagnosed as ADD? lol But nope relaxed me - the phenterminte too if I didn't get started on something right away . I could sleep all day. but it did cut my appetite lol
  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than
    a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    Im worried about after, Im pretty active in the gym and only eat local, organic non packaged WHEN IM NOT drinking 3 nights a week 6 beers a 1/2 pizza wings or a burger. I really thought my clean diet during the day and 800c burn workouts were offsetting that! MSP told me otherwise. I just need to get a headstart w the stack. then eat clean and cut the blowouts to 1night a week and limit food and booze on them. Dont be stupid.


    if you can maintain it afterward it'll be good . I don't hate any crutch we all need I just hate that we need them at all .

    It's a tool and if used correctly can work . We are our own worst enemy and stop doing what works when we get to a weight that we like , we start partying and eating out and filling up on crap .


    oh , you reminded me about something a friend just said to me ... as long as you are worried about gaining the weight back - you probably wont. The minute you stop worrying about it - get worried .

    Good luck to ya !
  • cheezscott
    cheezscott Posts: 29 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    WELLBUTRIN doesn't relax you actually its quite the oposite

    right ? my doctor asked me if I was ever diagnosed as ADD? lol But nope relaxed me - the phenterminte too if I didn't get started on something right away . I could sleep all day. but it did cut my appetite lol

    So you had no side affects getting started???
  • Maleficent0241
    Maleficent0241 Posts: 386 Member
    Have you called your doctor about the side effects? Chills and backache do not sound good especially (some of those, like headache and insomnia are pretty common but still aren't necessarily benign in every case). There may be something to worry about or not, and none of us here can tell you the difference. Good luck!
  • cheezscott
    cheezscott Posts: 29 Member
    Body aches and chills are very typical of amphetamines. I don't handle being umcomfortable well. Some get side effects initially, some dont.
  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?



    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    WELLBUTRIN doesn't relax you actually its quite the oposite

    right ? my doctor asked me if I was ever diagnosed as ADD? lol But nope relaxed me - the phenterminte too if I didn't get started on something right away . I could sleep all day. but it did cut my appetite lol

    So you had no side affects getting started???


    other than getting sleepy sometimes nope . but I still don't like taking any pills lol
  • AmyZ46
    AmyZ46 Posts: 694 Member
    but this was 20 years ago
  • Maleficent0241
    Maleficent0241 Posts: 386 Member
    Gotcha. I didn't see that in the side effects sheet, but I have no personal experience with Phentermine. It did mention that use along with alcohol was a bad idea, due to "an adverse drug reaction." IIRC you are using alcohol, yes? Did you ask your doctor if that could be increasing the discomfort? I'd still be calling them about your original dosing question anyway - they should give you a clear plan for how to take them. Or ask your pharmacist - a good one will also have an idea about this stuff if your doctor is no help.
  • Junebuggyzy
    Junebuggyzy Posts: 345 Member
    Personally I think there are way too many side effects of at least the phentermine , The wellbutrin I have only a small amt of experience with for weight loss . I can give you my own experience though. I have lost hundreds of pounds using phentermine throughout my life and it all comes back when you stop taking it ...so the problem is not your hunger it's what you are eating when you are hungry, which is what you'll be when you stop taking it no matter how much you lose .

    As far as taking them together ...were they prescribed together ?

    Wellbutrin I took once for weight loss ----nothing ? no loss no nothing maybe I felt more relaxed?

    Sorry to be a Debbie Downer but You can do this without pills - even if you love food - not too many people love food more than a 270lb 5'3' woman ...just saying :) which is what I was .

    Hah, I have also lost many pounds on Phentermine, then gained them back. My appetite comes back with a vengeance once I stop taking it. This time, though, I am working with a diet clinic doctor instead of my regular internist. We have talked about my fear of gaining it all back, and my fear of going off of it. (I wish I could stay on it forever!).

    For once, I want to work on maintenance after I get off of Phen. No more blimping out as soon as I stop taking it. I am figuring out a maintenance plan now so I will be ready.

    My doctor said she will gradually wean me off of it. I am not totally sure what that means.

    I took Welbutrin to help me quit smoking. I think I was on 100mg a day. If I took it with Phen, I think I would have gone out of my skin.