how many people have gained weight?
arlenem1974
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I have spoken to some people I know that have problems gaining weight. I always mention this site. I would really like to know can you really gain weight by using this site and if so what is the most do you know of?
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Sure gaining weight is easy. You just need to eat more calories than you burn.
Most people use this site to manage calories so weight gain is controlled. This can help prevent excessive fat gain.
Tracking calories and protein, fat and carbs is very helpful for that.0 -
I know people who have tried eating more without any weight gain.0
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Gaining wait is easy for many people.....when the weight gain is fat. But for most people, gaining a significant amount of muscle is one of if not the most difficult fitness goal, one can have. Certainly more so than losing weight...this site will help keep you accountable by providing a food log app, but you will need to garner some knowledge and research on your own to insure that you are in the best possible anabolic state. For hard gainers, that could mean adding a few hundred extra calories. But many people are underestimating their individual protein and carb and fat needs. Also it is smart protocol to include a fast acting protein/carb source within 45 minutes of finishing your workout, to help flush those nutrients to your muscles quicker and also help replenish lost glycogen stores.0
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I know people who have tried eating more without any weight gain.
They need to eat EVEN MORE!
I am talking more as in more calories. Doubling up on broccoli is not going to help much..0 -
I should have said how you gain weight is simple but the actual amount that you have to eat might be harder to figure out and is like hitting a moving target sometimes.
There are lots of people that think they eat more calories than they actually do just the same as there are people that think they eat less than they actually do.
If you are not gaining weight then you are just not eating enough. Have them weight and measure all their food for a couple weeks and see exactly how many calories they take in.0 -
Fat weight Easy
muscle weight HARD0 -
I know that I have been eating around 3k calories for a while without lifting, to no avail. Once I started picking up heavy things (and squatting regularly) I began to put on mass, quickly.0
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I know people who have tried eating more without any weight gain.
They need to eat EVEN MORE!
I am talking more as in more calories. Doubling up on broccoli is not going to help much..
^^^ this
to gain weight you need to eat more than you burn off. If they're not gaining weight, they're not eating more than they're burning off.
Weight gain can be really hard, it depends on the person's appetite... just as some people struggle to lose weight because they still feel hungry even after they've eaten enough.............. some people feel full after eating a certain amount and forcing themselves to eat more just makes them feel nauseous. So yeah, it can be really hard to gain weight. They need to focus on foods that have a high calorie density, so they can get in more calories before they feel full. As the person above says, doubling up on broccoli isn't going to work.0 -
As the person above says, doubling up on broccoli isn't going to work.
Unless you start dunking it in peanut butter :laugh:0 -
Or coating it in molten cheese with crisped bacon on top...As the person above says, doubling up on broccoli isn't going to work.
Unless you start dunking it in peanut butter :laugh:
Mmmmm, bacon! :bigsmile:0 -
When I started this, I was at 140-142...now I'm at 154, 3000 cals a day 150 gm protein. It's hard, I've gotten up to 160 for a short time, but if I miss one meal I lose 1-3 lbs, if I lose sleep I lose 4 lbs (thats a whole night with activity).0
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I'm not trying to muscle gain im just trying to gain, and its working for me cos i set myself a cal goal (and as said above you need to eat more than you burn off).0
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I lost 30lbs in 30 weeks on 1850 calories and got my weight down to 156lbs. Around Dec 2nd I started working out (weights and a little cardio) and started a bulk on 2600 calories. By Dec 31st I was at 161lbs, today I weighed in at 161lbs. I'm finding it difficult to do.
After reviewing my data I see I'm averaging 2550, so I think I'll up my target to 2700 to see what happens. If I added in 1 TBS of PB, a serving of raw almonds, and a half cup of cottage cheese every day, that would add 355 calories. More than enough!0 -
well, I've gained 70 lbs and ended up at a significantly lower body fat %, so yeah...eating more and lifting weights helps.0
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I know people who have tried eating more without any weight gain.
They need to eat EVEN MORE!
I am talking more as in more calories. Doubling up on broccoli is not going to help much..
Exactly! More calorie-dense foods. Instead of eating cucumber (5 cal per 30g), have some avocado (48 cal per 30 g). Also try nut butters, cheese, full fat milk and yogurt, extra bread...
My 'cheater' calorific food is Ensure or Boost Plus Calories. (I have inflammatory bowel disease so I often have to supplement with these anyhow) 355 caloriers packed into 237ml. Not the greatest tasting, but I wouldn't be able to meet my daily calorie goal without the extra "boost", lol!0 -
I know people who have tried eating more without any weight gain.
Then they were not eating a surplus of their calorie requirements. These calculators are just good starting points...for many, many, many people, there really won't have to be a whole lot of tweaking involved...for many, many, many others, they will fall outside of the statistical norms used by these calculators to estimate a specific caloric intake for a particular individual. i.e. someone may have a slower or faster metabolism than what would fall under these statistical norms.
Also, some people may have to adjust their activity down a bit to really make it work. I used to be skinny as a rail and ate like a horse...everyone used to comment on how I could just eat and eat and eat and eat without gaining weight...it drove me crazy and I tried and tried and tried to gain weight. What I didn't understand at the time was that I was incredibly active at that time...training for sport, and then just generally really active to boot...with all of my activity, even though I was eating anything and everything I wanted, I had a hard time just maintaining let alone gaining weight. It wasn't until I pulled back (accidentally) on my activity that I started to put on a little weight. Of course, that ultimately turned into me blowing up into a big old fat *kitten*...so careful with that...0 -
I have spoken to some people I know that have problems gaining weight. I always mention this site. I would really like to know can you really gain weight by using this site and if so what is the most do you know of?
Works the same as losing weight ... you track your calories and try and go over .. site can be set up that way also .... so just use the site first and then ask?
I purposely gained 35lbbs during a bulking phase not sure about others.0 -
Or coating it in molten cheese with crisped bacon on top...As the person above says, doubling up on broccoli isn't going to work.
Unless you start dunking it in peanut butter :laugh:
Mmmmm, bacon! :bigsmile:
OK, I just gained half a pound reading that! :flowerforyou:0 -
I use it (I'm anorexic) and it helped me to be more aware of exactly how much I'm really eating, versus how much I think I'm eating (turns out there was a huge difference).0
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thx finally an answer other then just eat more.0
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This. I had no idea how hard it was going to be when I started! Losing weight is a breeze compared to trying to gain, at least for me.Weight gain can be really hard, it depends on the person's appetite... just as some people struggle to lose weight because they still feel hungry even after they've eaten enough.............. some people feel full after eating a certain amount and forcing themselves to eat more just makes them feel nauseous. So yeah, it can be really hard to gain weight. They need to focus on foods that have a high calorie density, so they can get in more calories before they feel full. As the person above says, doubling up on broccoli isn't going to work.
It's really just finding the right combination of "eat more" and "pick up heavy things, then put them down." The trouble is that everyone's combination is different, so it's mostly just experimenting until you figure it out. Plus, if you're a woman and you've heard nothing but diet tips your whole life, be prepared for it to completely spin your head.0 -
yep. Used it for bulking cutting and maintenance. Turns out the laws of thermodynamics are true :happy:0
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yep. Used it for bulking cutting and maintenance. Turns out the laws of thermodynamics are true :happy:
Ha ha!
What a shocker....0 -
thx finally an answer other then just eat more.
If you're not gaining weight then the answer IS to eat more.
Now, how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
So the gain weight part is easy: eat more. Maximising how much of that is deposited as muscle is the tricky part...0 -
thx finally an answer other then just eat more.
If you're not gaining weight then the answer IS to eat more.
Now, how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
So the gain weight part is easy: eat more. Maximising how much of that is deposited as muscle is the tricky part...
That's not strictly true. I'm not picking on you or your answer specifically. I just want to clear up misconceptions...
There are people who can eat a 400 to 500-calorie surplus each day and gain far less fat than would be predicted. Such people are fairly resistant to fat gain. How? The body finds other ways to burn the calories up, like moving more, etc. (non-exercise activity thermogenesis). Usually such people are male, young, and thin with low bodyfat. I'm one of these people. I gain less fat than most people from overeating. The only way I can gain significant weight, is a combination of eating a surplus AND working out hard enough to cause muscle growth. If I just do one or the other, very little happens. (On a surplus alone I gain fat, but less than most people. I also feel disgusting when I do that.)
If you believe in body types, I am half and half what you call "ecto" and "meso"...right smack between the two.
Bottom line, just because someone is not gaining substantial weight does not necessarily mean they're not eating enough. It could also mean their strength training simply isn't up to snuff. And the response to eating and working out varies from person-to-person as well as over an individual's own lifetime.0 -
This is my third year hitting the gym fairly consistently. I weight about 125lbs @ 5' 7" when I first started. In the first year I gained about 15 lbs. I now weigh about 141 lbs and slowly adding weight still. I'm fairly active and my daily calorie intake is at 3200.
I was hitting the gym after work 4 days a week for the first 2 years. I just switched to 3 days a week (full body) to change things
a bit.
MFP is really great (just started using it) and very easy to use!0 -
thx finally an answer other then just eat more.
If you're not gaining weight then the answer IS to eat more.
Now, how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
So the gain weight part is easy: eat more. Maximising how much of that is deposited as muscle is the tricky part...
That's not strictly true. I'm not picking on you or your answer specifically. I just want to clear up misconceptions...
There are people who can eat a 400 to 500-calorie surplus each day and gain far less fat than would be predicted. Such people are fairly resistant to fat gain. How? The body finds other ways to burn the calories up, like moving more, etc. (non-exercise activity thermogenesis). Usually such people are male, young, and thin with low bodyfat. I'm one of these people. I gain less fat than most people from overeating. The only way I can gain significant weight, is a combination of eating a surplus AND working out hard enough to cause muscle growth. If I just do one or the other, very little happens. (On a surplus alone I gain fat, but less than most people. I also feel disgusting when I do that.)
If you believe in body types, I am half and half what you call "ecto" and "meso"...right smack between the two.
Bottom line, just because someone is not gaining substantial weight does not necessarily mean they're not eating enough. It could also mean their strength training simply isn't up to snuff. And the response to eating and working out varies from person-to-person as well as over an individual's own lifetime.
So I eat more. So I subconsciously become more active. Thus my TDEE is higher. Thus I must eat more to be in a surplus. I've still got to overcome my TDEE (which includes stuff like NEAT)
So what? Basically, you're overthinking it (It's ok, you're in good company on these forums).
You estimate your TDEE using whatever method seems best to you. You eat that + X% to get the weight gain you want. 2 weeks later, if you didn't gain the amount you wanted, re-estimate based on the new data and try again. Rinse. Repeat. Eventually, you'll be eating enough to gain at the rate you want. You can't up NEAT unconsciously indefinitely... you'll out-eat it in the end.0 -
Look at pictures of how you wanna look0
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thx finally an answer other then just eat more.
If you're not gaining weight then the answer IS to eat more.
Now, how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
So the gain weight part is easy: eat more. Maximising how much of that is deposited as muscle is the tricky part...
That's not strictly true. I'm not picking on you or your answer specifically. I just want to clear up misconceptions...
There are people who can eat a 400 to 500-calorie surplus each day and gain far less fat than would be predicted. Such people are fairly resistant to fat gain. How? The body finds other ways to burn the calories up, like moving more, etc. (non-exercise activity thermogenesis). Usually such people are male, young, and thin with low bodyfat. I'm one of these people. I gain less fat than most people from overeating. The only way I can gain significant weight, is a combination of eating a surplus AND working out hard enough to cause muscle growth. If I just do one or the other, very little happens. (On a surplus alone I gain fat, but less than most people. I also feel disgusting when I do that.)
If you believe in body types, I am half and half what you call "ecto" and "meso"...right smack between the two.
Bottom line, just because someone is not gaining substantial weight does not necessarily mean they're not eating enough. It could also mean their strength training simply isn't up to snuff. And the response to eating and working out varies from person-to-person as well as over an individual's own lifetime.
So I eat more. So I subconsciously become more active. Thus my TDEE is higher. Thus I must eat more to be in a surplus. I've still got to overcome my TDEE (which includes stuff like NEAT)
So what? Basically, you're overthinking it (It's ok, you're in good company on these forums).
You estimate your TDEE using whatever method seems best to you. You eat that + X% to get the weight gain you want. 2 weeks later, if you didn't gain the amount you wanted, re-estimate based on the new data and try again. Rinse. Repeat. Eventually, you'll be eating enough to gain at the rate you want. You can't up NEAT unconsciously indefinitely... you'll out-eat it in the end.
Unfortunately, you missed my whole point...
Some people ramp up NEAT in a surplus When they're NOT working out hard enough. It's the body's way to get us to "work out", but it's not effective in helping one to bulk. It does minimize fat gain though. The solution, assuming you're gaining a little bit of fat, is not to keep eating more and more carbs/calories and get really fat. The solution is to perfect the training routine, imho. Training hard will reduce excessive NEAT and allow the calories to go to muscle repair. A 1000-calorie surplus shouldn't be necessary, for example. But if one keeps upping calories too much, one could get to that point, imho. Granted there wold be a lot of fat gain...and maybe NEAT, too. BEAT the NEAT! LOL. ;-)0 -
thx finally an answer other then just eat more.
If you're not gaining weight then the answer IS to eat more.
Now, how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
So the gain weight part is easy: eat more. Maximising how much of that is deposited as muscle is the tricky part...
That's not strictly true. I'm not picking on you or your answer specifically. I just want to clear up misconceptions...
There are people who can eat a 400 to 500-calorie surplus each day and gain far less fat than would be predicted. Such people are fairly resistant to fat gain. How? The body finds other ways to burn the calories up, like moving more, etc. (non-exercise activity thermogenesis). Usually such people are male, young, and thin with low bodyfat. I'm one of these people. I gain less fat than most people from overeating. The only way I can gain significant weight, is a combination of eating a surplus AND working out hard enough to cause muscle growth. If I just do one or the other, very little happens. (On a surplus alone I gain fat, but less than most people. I also feel disgusting when I do that.)
If you believe in body types, I am half and half what you call "ecto" and "meso"...right smack between the two.
Bottom line, just because someone is not gaining substantial weight does not necessarily mean they're not eating enough. It could also mean their strength training simply isn't up to snuff. And the response to eating and working out varies from person-to-person as well as over an individual's own lifetime.
So I eat more. So I subconsciously become more active. Thus my TDEE is higher. Thus I must eat more to be in a surplus. I've still got to overcome my TDEE (which includes stuff like NEAT)
So what? Basically, you're overthinking it (It's ok, you're in good company on these forums).
You estimate your TDEE using whatever method seems best to you. You eat that + X% to get the weight gain you want. 2 weeks later, if you didn't gain the amount you wanted, re-estimate based on the new data and try again. Rinse. Repeat. Eventually, you'll be eating enough to gain at the rate you want. You can't up NEAT unconsciously indefinitely... you'll out-eat it in the end.
Unfortunately, you missed my whole point...
Some people ramp up NEAT in a surplus When they're NOT working out hard enough. It's the body's way to get us to "work out", but it's not effective in helping one to bulk. It does minimize fat gain though. The solution, assuming you're gaining a little bit of fat, is not to keep eating more and more carbs/calories and get really fat. The solution is to perfect the training routine, imho. Training hard will reduce excessive NEAT and allow the calories to go to muscle repair. A 1000-calorie surplus shouldn't be necessary, for example. But if one keeps upping calories too much, one could get to that point, imho. Granted there wold be a lot of fat gain...and maybe NEAT, too. BEAT the NEAT! LOL. ;-)
The thing is I am taking all the things you should do consciously as given: Workout with sufficient intensity, create a non-retarded schedule that has sufficient volume and recovery (there are plenty available online if you need a ready-made one) and eat sufficient food with a high enough protein count. If you can't even manage to consistently stay on a proper training schedule with sufficient intensity, then you're already doomed to fail. It's ridiculous to talk about people bulking and not working out properly.
Anyway, if you increase NEAT unconsciously, then you've just increased your TDEE. All other factors being in the shape I describe above, the solution is to eat more. I'm not talking about trying to plunge into a 1000 cal surplus - I'm not sure where you got that from. If you want to gain a 1/2lb/week, just shoot for eating enough to make that happen. Then you'll be roughly about 250 over a day (increased NEAT included). It's not magic.
As far a achieving a favourable p-ratio I believe my original post included this:how much of that goes to fat and how much to muscle will depend on the size of your surplus, macronutrient composition of your diet, your gender, genetics, age, training experience, starting leanness and current training regimen.
Many factors you have no control over (age, gender, etc) and many you do (bf% at start of bulk, training regimen, diet, macro, size of surplus). Basically, don't worry about the ones you can't change and focus in with laser-like intensity on the one's you can. You're going to deposit some fat in a bulk even if you have all the advantages in the world going for you - probably best to accept that fact and just schedule in a decently managed cut at the end of your bulk.0
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