My depression has really bottomed out

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Hi all, I'm sorry to dump all of this here on the threads but I'm really lost right now. I am 20 years old and have had diagnosed clinical depression and anxiety since I was 11 years old. I am just really unhappy at college. I was doing well my first semester of freshman year, but then got very, very, very depressed towards the end of that semester and began to fall into a pattern of binge eating that caused me to gain about 20-30 pounds (none of which I have lost yet :/ hence why I joined this site). I kind of gave up on myself at that point. I stopped exercising since I couldn't anymore due to fatigue from binge eating. I couldn't focus on my schoolwork because all I could think about was how mad I was at myself and how ashamed I was for gaining so much weight that my clothes weren't fitting well. My attendance at classes dropped. A year later and I am honestly still in the exact same place. I can't seem to motivate myself to do anything, such as working out, going to class, studying, etc. I have tried everything imaginable, even things like trying to create a reward system, like getting my nails done or something after a week of no skipping classes or workouts, etc., but it clearly isn't powerful enough incentive to beat my depression. Most days I can't think about anything else than how overwhelmed I am by school and feeling lonely at a giant university where I don't really know anyone in my classes or have friends to study with. I'm trying to transfer to a smaller college now, but honestly probably won't be accepted due to my poor college transcript. I am barely going to graduate on time since I've had to drop classes due to being too depressed to go to them or too anxious to study effectively for them. I think I am just so used to failure, both with working out/eating well and academics that I just can't force myself to move past it since my depression is extremely severe and has lasted basically half my life now. I have so much trouble sleeping because I am up all night panicking about school, the fact that I haven't lost any weight, etc., and can never get up early enough to hit the gym (since I have to go to our overly-crowded university gym, the only time to go is in the morning or else you have to wait forever for machines since it is too crowded), and I live in the northeast where it is too cold to work out outside yet. I have told my parents about how unhappy I am and I am seeing a CBT therapist, but I just feel like I have tried and exhausted every single plan we've come up with to try and make me happier. I also was prescribed celexa for panic attacks/anxiety in May 2013, which used to help me but now it is completely ineffective. I tried lexapro and prozac when I was in high school, but neither worked at all. I also was prescribed concerta when I was in high school, but I don't think that helped either.

Sorry for writing a novel. I just don't know what to do. I feel like I have tried everything and I am so miserable and it is getting in the way of my overall happiness and health and just could use some advice.

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  • Smac225
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    Hey girl, I know how you feel. I started college a year late for a boy and was doing amazing, until another boy came around and i let my whole world sink because of him. i started doing drugs and drinking, skipping class, skipping tests, and just not caring... i eventually failed out of college and had to start all over. i have struggled with depression and anxiety since i was a teenager also and i always turn to food. there are no instant ways or easy advice i can give to get you out of this slump other than just finding that one thing that makes you happy and concentrate on it. focus all your energy on what makes you happy or what will make you happy. as you know exercise is a natural antidepressant and it really works! start small and maybe invite a girl from your dorm or class to jog with you? the only way to get yourself going is to just go! and it won't be easy, it will be really hard. but i promise if you just start taking the small steps to being who and what you want to be it will come. :) keep your head up!
  • greentart
    greentart Posts: 411 Member
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    I was diagnosed with depression/anxiety after having a complete flip out episode after moving away to college. I didn't know anyone, the environment was WAY different to what I was used to and I couldn't handle it. I stopped going outside, started binge eating, and just stayed in bed for the most part.
    I tried taking pills, but I found that they didn't help me (I know this isn't the case for everyone). To be completely honest, Vitamin D and clean eating have completely helped my depression. I still get anxious from time to time, but its nothing like it was.
    I would say look at what you're doing and try to figure out WHY its not working. For me, it was all motivation. Shaming yourself and talking yourself down doesn't do anything for you in the motivation department or in the mental health department. I joined Nerd Fitness, and they've helped me greatly. I have a plan, I have a community, I have like minded people who are super nerdy who don't judge me and just want me to get HEALTHY.
    As far as school is concerned.... are you doing what you want to do? Are you studying something that you enjoy, or are you forcing yourself to complete it to have something? This could be why you don't want to go anymore. Lean on your friends, even if they're online friends. Write a blog or write in a journal to help get your feelings out. You can do this! You CAN get past this, you just have to work for it. Start by changing ONE thing in your life. Just one. Make sure you go to class everyday and do your homework. Once you have this down, you can add in eating better. Move a little bit at a time.

    And stop shaming yourself. Just stop. It really doesn't work, and sort of backfires on you. Good luck, friend!
  • tapirfrog
    tapirfrog Posts: 616 Member
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    KEEP SEEING A THERAPIST. And, very important, don't just stick with CBT. It helps, but for the love of God, FIND A PSYCHIATRIST WHO CAN PRESCRIBE YOU WHAT YOU NEED.

    Brains are way different from each other, and the only way you can figure out if a medicine will work is to try it, wait a few weeks (which can be hell), and go "Nope" or "Yup, but this needs tweaking." And I know the prospect of trying one damn drug after another (and what if they don't work ohgod ohgod) is just awful, like a long dingy hallway with no light at the end of it, but you gotta. You just have to keep experimenting.

    Some of us are born blind; some of us get chronic pain; some of us have crippling depression. At least with crippling depression there is the possibility of finding a patch. Unfortunately, finding the patch requires that you do the thing that crippling depression makes hardest: get up and try again, and again, and again.

    Please take your original post to a therapist and ask for a referral to a psychiatrist who can try some more meds. (FWIW, Lexapro is tailor-made for depressives with panic disorder.)

    Trying to do that when you're in school is horrible, BTW. You're not imagining how horrible it is -- it really is hard. I know that being told "You're not crazy, this really does suck" might seem discouraging, but at least for me, it's remarkably freeing to know that, yes, not many people could handle it and yet somehow I am. Not many people could handle your burden yet somehow you are.
  • roxannedd1988
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    Try cutting out foods and drinks that have sugar in it, other than those that offer all natural sugar like fruits. Eat lots of vegetables. And try to cut out pastas and other foods that contain flour. I often find that when I am suffering depression, I am also suffering an imbalance in my food intake and my gut has become compromised. So, I also try to take a probiotic, a vitamin B complex, and vitamin D. Once my system clears up from all the food toxins in my body, then I find that I feel much better and can handle things better.
  • SapiensPisces
    SapiensPisces Posts: 992 Member
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    Clinical depression is a very serious disease. Please continue to seek treatment and don't be afraid to try medication again. Meds saved my life, and that's not an exaggeration.

    Please be relentless seeking treatment. You CAN manage this disease and learn to live a healthy life. Don't give up!

    ETA: Having depression does not make you a failure of a person. This is an outdated social stigma so please ignore people here or elsewhere who make you feel as though you're a failure. Keep working with professionals and doctors and heed their advice over others. Wishing you all the best.
  • RamonaFr
    RamonaFr Posts: 112
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    I agree -- keep seeing your therapist and work with a doctor to tweak your meds until you get the combination that works for you. You may have to try several different things, be patient and keep working on it.

    Drag yourself outside every day if you possibly can, even if all you do is stand in the doorway with a cup of coffee and watch the snow.
  • IvoryParchment
    IvoryParchment Posts: 651 Member
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    Everyone is right; you need to continue to get professional help. You may need more intensive treatment than you are now getting. A lot of insurance companies mainly pay for the low-wage counselor and you only get a few minutes with the psychiatrist, or your primary care doctor ends up managing the drugs. Psychiatrists are specialists for a reason, and you may benefit from spending the money to see one who will spend the whole 50 minute hour with you if that 's not what you're getting now.

    Beyond that, you're doing a lot of the right things. With a bad depression, just treading water is still a big achievement, because believe me, you're not really at the bottom. Keep forcing yourself to go through the motions of your life, so you keep getting brain stimulation from learning new things and having social interaction. Just don't beat yourself up when you aren't having the success you know you are capable of, because when you're depressed, large areas of your brain are just inactive.

    Your therapists can help you get support from your parents. Most people aren't very skillful at showing support to seriously depressed/anxious people, so be patient with them. It may be best that you work an undemanding job with lots of people-contact and finish your degree part-time, and they need to be able to support whatever is best for you.
  • Graelwyn75
    Graelwyn75 Posts: 4,404 Member
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    I have been through all of this, in particular, that awful cycle of binge eating, then feeling too crap to do anything other than stay indoors and do the bare necessities of life. It is a very difficult thing to break free of. I still suffer severe depression and anxiety, but I managed to get myself back to the gym...it just takes getting there once, and getting that workout in, to break the cycle for me. I will also add, that sugar is appalling for depression. It might feel comforting at the time of eating, but plays havoc with your moods. I think you need to try and sit down and make a plan of action. Get into some sort of routine, in terms of study, exercise and relaxation time. Then take it a day at a time. Even a walk can help with your mood. Feel free to add me.
  • WickedPineapple
    WickedPineapple Posts: 698 Member
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    I'm so sorry. I had something similar my senior year of college; severe depression, anxiety, and insomnia. It was horrible. I probably attended less than half my classes that year. The decline in my performance was painfully clear. Luckily I had a professor who I explained my situation to because I was afraid of failing his class and he was sympathetic. I pretty much stumbled through that year. Consider taking some time off from school. College is incredibly stressful, which does not help your situation, and you're probably not getting much out of it right now anyway.

    IT WILL GET BETTER! This is not who you are.

    Keep seeing your therapist and I agree with everyone else, if it doesn't help get a referral to a psychiatrist. I've never personally done CBT; however, I kinda stumbled upon it myself when I realized how much worse I made my depression with my own horrible fantasies. Stopping that kind of thinking changed my life. Diet and exercise help, but they don't cure. A good support system is crucial. Don't hide it from those closest to you, they want to help. And tell them what you need, how they can make your life easier. Good luck and feel free to friend me.
  • writergeek313
    writergeek313 Posts: 390 Member
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    I'm sorry to hear that things aren't going well for you right now. I know from experience how horrible it is to be in a really bad depressive episode. If the medication you've been taking has stopped working, I really encourage you to talk to your doctor and/or therapist. Sometimes it take awhile to find the right medication and right dosage. Severe depression will rarely just go away on its own, so even though you're not making as much progress as you'd like to now, please stick with it.

    Getting up early is tough, but if it means you can get in a decent, low-stress workout, it will be worth it a few times a week. Exercise will help you sleep better, which will give you a better chance at not being anxious the next day. On days when it's not unbearably cold, think about how you can add an extra five or ten minutes to your walks to class. Take the scenic routes to where you have to go. One of the classes I teach this semester is in the basement, and my office is on the third floor, so I take the stairs and zig zag back and forth (stairs to the first floor, walk to the far end of the first floor and take the stairs to the second floor, walk back to the other end, take the stairs up to the third floor) so I get in some extra steps.

    Also, I really encourage you to go talk with someone in your school's Disability Services office about how you can get academic accommodations because of your depression. Students are sometimes hesitant to do this, but I always encourage them to, because it can give some leeway in terms of class attendance and sometimes needing extra time for assignments. There's a huge difference between a student slacking off and a student who's dealing with a serious medical condition that's interfering with their ability to work to their full potential. But because depression is an "invisible" illness and there's often a stigma associated with it, professors sometimes struggle to figure out what's going on with a student who misses a lot of classes or doesn't seem engaged.

    One step at a time. Don't put too much pressure on yourself to do too many things or make too many changes all at once. Just focus on being kind to yourself and on trying to make some slow, steady progress.
  • RllyGudTweetr
    RllyGudTweetr Posts: 2,019 Member
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    I have been there.

    Let your professors know you're dealing with depression, if you haven't already.

    Talk to the school, as writergeek313 says, to find out what accommodations are already available to you. Take advantage of them. Depression is a real disease. Don't let it - or anyone else - tell you differently.

    For myself, caffeine often helps, and too much sugar sometimes hurts. You may find you have similar foods that help and hurt your moods; keep track.

    Focus on small victories, rather than the big picture, which can easily overwhelm.

    You are not alone.

    Feel free to contact or add me.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
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    I can totally relate. I am 20 as well. I was diagnosed with severe generalized anxiety and panic disorder when I was a junior in HS. I'm a junior in college now and am currently on a medical leave of absence from school because of my anxiety (and other medical issues going on). I had to take a medical LOA second semester of my sophomore year as well. This has pushed me a year back. I should be graduating next spring but won't be until 2016 now. You NEED to talk to your professors and let them know what you are dealing with. You need to contact disability services at your school and let them know you want accommodations. I have special accommodations for testing (quiet room, alone) and attendance (because it is difficult for me to get to class). Without these accommodations, I would have failed each course I've taken. But I have a 4.0 GPA so it IS possible!

    I reluctantly started medications when I was a senior in high school. I've been on Zoloft, Prozac, Lexapro, Celexa, Cymbalta, Effexor, Pristiq, Ativan, Klonopin, Propranonol. I still currently take Lexapro and Propranonol. Propranonol is primarily for my heart but it is also used for panic attacks. I was 97 lbs when I started the medications a little over 3 years ago. In that time, I have gained over 100 lbs from the medications. I have developed a number of health issues because of the weight gain such as insulin resistance and hypoglycemia, vestibular migraines, vertigo, acid reflux. I personally don't recommend medications. They've completely changed my life, my body, my health. It's been very difficult. The weight gain just isn't worth it.

    Honestly, I've been dealing with this for a while and have learned that a lot of anxiety is mind over matter. The only thing that has helped me is CBT. My anxiety and panic has made me develop agoraphobia (fear of leaving the house). So last August, my parents paid almost $4,000 out of pocket (this program does not take insurance) for me to complete a week long accelerated intensive CBT program for panic disorder. We went to the mall, pet stores, ice cream shoppes, driving, etc. It's the only thing that made me get over my "fear." So I do highly recommend CBT. I also recommend looking into electromagnetic stimulation. It has a high success rate for depression.

    Feel free to add me if you want to talk more!
  • mrsske
    mrsske Posts: 5 Member
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    Dear Caffeinatedbookworm,

    I think we've all been in a place at some point where we feel we just can't climb out of. I've never experienced the depression you're going through and I hope you continue with counseling and get the help you need. I don't know if you have a particular faith. I am a Christian and believe wonderful things come from prayer. I won't pour something on you that you may not want to hear, but I will just say that I'm praying for you, that you will find what you need to help you and understand that you do have the strong and are able to work through all of this. Stay strong and have faith.
  • amandakev88
    amandakev88 Posts: 328 Member
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    KEEP SEEING A THERAPIST. And, very important, don't just stick with CBT. It helps, but FIND A PSYCHIATRIST WHO CAN PRESCRIBE YOU WHAT YOU NEED.

    Brains are way different from each other, and the only way you can figure out if a medicine will work is to try it, wait a few weeks (which can be hell), and go "Nope" or "Yup, but this needs tweaking." And I know the prospect of trying one damn drug after another (and what if they don't work ohgod ohgod) is just awful, like a long dingy hallway with no light at the end of it, but you gotta. You just have to keep experimenting.

    Some of us are born blind; some of us get chronic pain; some of us have crippling depression. At least with crippling depression there is the possibility of finding a patch. Unfortunately, finding the patch requires that you do the thing that crippling depression makes hardest: get up and try again, and again, and again.

    Please take your original post to a therapist and ask for a referral to a psychiatrist who can try some more meds. (FWIW, Lexapro is tailor-made for depressives with panic disorder.)

    Trying to do that when you're in school is horrible, BTW. You're not imagining how horrible it is -- it really is hard. I know that being told "You're not crazy, this really does suck" might seem discouraging, but at least for me, it's remarkably freeing to know that, yes, not many people could handle it and yet somehow I am. Not many people could handle your burden yet somehow you are.

    i agree with pretty much all of this. if you want somebody to talk to, shoot me a message. im in a similar boat. x
  • I know what it's like to be so depressed you can barely function. Try to stay positive and take advantage of all the help you can get. You'll get through this and things will get better .
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
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    I would really like to recommend you trying Plexus. I had a friend who suffered with depression for 10 years and she started Plexus and has now been completely removed from all of her medications! Literally one drink a day. She lost weight by taking this one drink a day and it helped with her blood pressure, cholesterol, blood sugar, depression, etc. Her daughter even takes it for her adhd. It's all natural. If you would like more info, go to her public Facebook page.. *snip* and i'm sure she'll be glad to answer any questions/concerns you may have.

    You have some balls trying to pitch your plexus in this thread and making such strong claims about mental health. Take it elsewhere, preferably not on MFP. (It is against the rules, but I am sure you know that)

    OP:
    Please keep seeing a professional and working the treatment plan.
  • nenshali
    nenshali Posts: 331 Member
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    I'm so sorry to hear that!

    Say, is there the possibility that you f.e. drop out of school for a year and gratuate one year later? Because.. I know this feeling when you are just so overwhelmed and it's just so much you don't even know where to start (and why even start after it's so incredibly much that you'll never finish even the half anyway, no matter how hard you try?)
    And sometimes, it's necessary to get out of the stressful situation itself. I don't know if it's possible in your case etc. I'm not informed about school systems besides germany, but I wanted to mention it.

    Besides this, I'd like to show you a topic I made:

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1198789-how-to-stay-motivated-while-being-depressed-after-a-relapse

    Especially after you're seeking a therapist, those points will propably not be totally new to you. But still I'd like to ask you to go through them. Sometimes we are so used to certain things, that we totally overlook others.

    And two things came up in my head when I read your text:


    1.) Maybe you are also overwhelming yourself sometimes.

    College can be tough. College is much more harder, if you suffer from a mental illness like Depression (and especially if it's a hard case like this). And now you're struggling so much and now you ADD the goals weight loss and working out to your schedule and I wonder; how should that be done?!
    I do understand that you struggled with the weight you gained, but is it so much of a priority of yours?

    This kind of leads me to

    2.) " I think I am just so used to failure, both with working out/eating well and academics that I just can't force myself to move past it "

    (I know that your depression has a huge impact on this, but I'll continue writing about it anyway. CBT can have a huge impact on how our brain works, serotonin and other hormones that are fundamental etc.)

    Maybe your problem has also to do with the fact, that you are striving quite high. You cannot (or should not) compare yourself to a healthy person. A healthy person maybe would be able to get college + food + working out etc., if they had interest in it.
    But fighting against an illness like depression should never be underestimated. And maybe, you should set smaller goals.

    "even things like trying to create a reward system, like getting my nails done or something after a week of no skipping classes or workouts, etc., but it clearly isn't powerful enough incentive to beat my depression."

    Continue with the reward system. But think about what really is important to you, what needs to be done. In general, I support (of course!) eating healthy and working out. But in your case I'd strongly recommend that you try to get healthier and not focus on weight loss too much.
    And seriously, I know lots of people who don't do any sports at all (which should not mean that you should join them). But.. maybe ignore how effective your workout is and think about what you'd actually have interest in. What could be fun?
    Maybe yoga is something for you. Or spinning. Or climbing. Or dancing.
    There are so many possibilities, for you alone, for you with a friend, for in a group, etc. Exercise is important for your well- being, but I wouldn't focus on it too much.

    (and for example yoga: I personally am using an app for this and doing it in my room. Sure, there are yoga classes, but I am to self- conscious for them. And there are lots of YT videos and other completely free recources you could use. And this is not only with yoga! And especially after you suffer from anxiety.. I mean, crowded gyms are not even easy/nice for me. And I think, maybe saving some 'social energy' here gives you more strength to get up and go to the classes)

    Unfortunately I cannot give you any tips or advice because of the medication. I just hope you'll find something that helps you. Please continue seeing a professional and continue working on your treatment plan.
    It can only help you.
    And please, if you need to talk or something, feel free to mail me. I don't know if I can help, but I can promise you to listen and to take you seriously and sometimes it's already good to know that there is someone.

    Please, take cake :flowerforyou:
  • caffeinatedbookworm
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    I just want to thank everyone who has replied to this. I have read every single one of your messages and can't thank you enough for the support. Luckily my parents are helping me a lot right now and we are looking into switching my medications and file my anxiety with the disabilities center at my university. I finished a midterm today and feel better after accomplishing that (was so, so, so close to skipping). Tomorrow is a new day and I feel ready to go to my two classes tomorrow. I can't thank you all enough for your help. I will get there one step at a time.