Protein powder, your thoughts please?

Protein powders are really only useful if you have issues hitting your protein macro or if you're crunched for time. Sometimes, they save me on days i can't hit my target and lately I love it in my greek yogurt. Only use it if you need to, otherwise it's a waste of money for you. I can't stomach body fortress protein powder. I like optimum nutrition, trutein and cellucor brands so far, as far as smoothness and taste.

Agreed. The only thing protein powder might have going for it over whole foods are cost (potentially) and convenience. There's no reason you need to incorporate protein powder into your diet, but if you find yourself low on protein for a given day, protein powder can be a convenient way to get that additional protein.

As for brands, I stick with Isopure (either unflavored or mint chocolate chip). I also have some unflavored casein I use on occasion as well.

Sorry - I'm a little puzzled here. Is there a distiction I am missing between protein powder and whey powder? You both poo-pooed the product, yet you both use it daily? I've been using Kaizen Naturals out of New Zealand.

No one "poo-pooed" protein powder. They simply stated that getting protein from whole foods should be first and to use protein powder when that is not being met.

Most protein powders are whey. However, you can get pea, soy, casein, rice, etc. protein powders.

Yes, thank you. If you look at my post, I tell you the brand and even the flavor of protein powder I use several times a week, so I would have thought it's clear I'm not "poo-pooing" the use of protein powder. My point was simply that you aren't gaining anything other than convenience by using protein powder instead of whole foods. For example, I wouldn't drink 4 protein shakes to hit 200g of protein every day, but rather I would use a protein shake if it's 8:00pm and I still am low on my daily protein macro. Other times, I just feel like a shake and so I'll work one into my macros. And there are many days I don't have a shake at all. I guess to rephrase, I don't think shakes should be your primary source of protein and you aren't doing yourself any disservice if you get all of your protein intake from whole foods and never touch a shake, but I think they're a very convenient way to supplement your protein intake.

So, if you enjoy a protein shake, I don't think it's going to do you any harm. If I thought that, I wouldn't use them myself.

They all taste like crap. Get the powder with the highest protein % and cheapest price. Make sure there is 2% of your DV per gram of protein.

The ON Gold Standard Chocolate Mint is actually really pretty good. Tastes a lot like a thin mint.

They all taste like crap. Get the powder with the highest protein % and cheapest price. Make sure there is 2% of your DV per gram of protein.

The ON Gold Standard Chocolate Mint is actually really pretty good. Tastes a lot like a thin mint.

yeah, but that powder accidentally meets rules 1 and 2...

Hitting your protein without protein powder is actually easy if you eat meat and fish, so there's no real need for a protein powder to hit it. After 2 g per pound or kilogram (not sure anymore) you're body doesn't use it and it does't give you more benefit.

For clarity:

~0.8g/kg for RDA (which is for individuals not aiming to gain weight)

~1.2g/kg for individuals aiming to build muscle mass

~1.8g/kg for individuals on extreme energy deficit or conducting intensive endurance training where losses in lean body mass are predicted

>1.8g/kg is unnecessary for anyone who isn't on steroids

Am I arguing just to argue? - I didn't think so - if that is the way it came across then I sincerely apologize. Perhaps I'm seeing dragons where there aren't any - but the two responses struck me as ingenuous.

Again - apologies if I ruffled feathers.

I don't mind you challenging me on my post. Text is far from a perfect medium for communicating and oftentimes I think people on this forum agree but are just talking past one another. At the same time, I don't think my position is ingenuous or "do as I say, not as I do" in this case.

Think about avoiding anything that has "Supplement Facts" instead of "Nutrition Facts". Difference? FDA approval and validity of the information and claims about their product. My dietician has me eating 84 grams of protein/day, which is high for a girl and ONLY because my body needs it during peak training season. I can get all of that protein from natural sources (chemical free meats/fish, farm fresh eggs and milk, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, certain beans) without any problem, and actually exceed a couple of times per week.

If you really enjoy natural (which was your initial concern) and want to go in that direction, avoid processed powders completely. That's about as "unnatural" as it gets.

Am I arguing just to argue? - I didn't think so - if that is the way it came across then I sincerely apologize. Perhaps I'm seeing dragons where there aren't any - but the two responses struck me as ingenuous.

Again - apologies if I ruffled feathers.

I don't mind you challenging me on my post. Text is far from a perfect medium for communicating and oftentimes I think people on this forum agree but are just talking past one another. At the same time, I don't think my position is ingenuous or "do as I say, not as I do" in this case.

Cool - obviously the confusion is all mine.

cheers!

The most adult posts I've ever seen in my life. 2 people with different opinions (or ways of communicating) actually realizing that they are not communicating correctly and apologizing! Drinks all around!!! Srs

Hitting your protein without protein powder is actually easy if you eat meat and fish, so there's no real need for a protein powder to hit it. After 2 g per pound or kilogram (not sure anymore) you're body doesn't use it and it does't give you more benefit.

For clarity:

~0.8g/kg for RDA (which is for individuals not aiming to gain weight)

~1.2g/kg for individuals aiming to build muscle mass

~1.8g/kg for individuals on extreme energy deficit or conducting intensive endurance training where losses in lean body mass are predicted

>1.8g/kg is unnecessary for anyone who isn't on steroids

Yeah good addition. It was clear in my head, but not on here. It is also recommended to hit ~1.6 or 1.8g for people who want to maintain muscle mass and that are exercising somewhat heavy. What I first meant by writting after 2 grams your body doesn't process it is that there's no point to have an incredible amount of protein.

Sorry I made a mistake. To maintain it is 1.2 to 1.6 g t