Working out and gaining!

traceylynns
traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
in Fitness and Exercise
Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!

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  • Joebob8
    Joebob8 Posts: 69 Member
    I'll add you as a friend so I can see and comment
  • links_slayer
    links_slayer Posts: 1,151 Member
    could be extra water your muscles are retaining as they repair themselves.
  • Muddy_Yogi
    Muddy_Yogi Posts: 1,459 Member
    Your profile is private so I can't see your diary...it very well could be water retention from the workouts...or you could be eating higher than your TDEE. Hard to know without knowing quite a bit more about you.
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    It's open now I thought it was I forgot I closed it!!

    Let's see
    Height 5'6
    Weight 187
    BMI 28
  • Joebob8
    Joebob8 Posts: 69 Member
    My guesses in order:

    1. Water retention from exercise
    2. You and your friend are spending so much time together you are on same TOM cycle and are retaining water from pms
    3. You eat a lot of cookies :)

    Number 3 I wouldn't be too worried about. It's a generally balanced diet and reasonable calorie intake. You could swap out the grapes, cookies and white potato for better choices but if this is a sustainable diet for you it's ok. If you are really working out 4x a week and eating under 1800 calories the scale will move soon enough.
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    Yes a lot of cookies the last couple weeks! Getting sick of being in the house!!
    Yes we both are on TOM at same time!

    Yep we really work out 4X a week burning from 500-900 depending on workout that day. I know I eat only what I track because measure everything I eat!!!

    Thanks for your input!!
  • Joebob8
    Joebob8 Posts: 69 Member
    You may want to experiment with cutting back on the carbs, particularly the desserts, and putting some fresh green vegetables into your diet instead and see how that affects you
  • Joebob8
    Joebob8 Posts: 69 Member
    Hahaha I love that I was right!!! I think you are doing a great job. See what happens in next week or so and PM me anytime you have a question or need support. Cheers
  • JazmineYoli
    JazmineYoli Posts: 547 Member
    Is this a new workout plan. I found this article helpful when I first started. Keep at it.

    Why the Scale Goes Up When You Start a New Workout Plan
    http://www.sparkpeople.com/blog/blog.asp?post=why_the_scale_goes_up_when_you_start_a_new_workout_plan
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,024 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
  • whitebalance
    whitebalance Posts: 1,654 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.
    This, but also, you could be overestimating your "burn" from lifting if you're using HRMs to gauge it. HRMs are great for steady-state cardio, not so hot for measuring calories burned during resistance training.
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.
    This, but also, you could be overestimating your "burn" from lifting if you're using HRMs to gauge it. HRMs are great for steady-state cardio, not so hot for measuring calories burned during resistance training.

    I don't eat back any of my workout calories. I look at it after cardio and it is anywhere from 400-500
  • culo97
    culo97 Posts: 256 Member
    traceylynns
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!

    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!

    I have some news you may not like: some people don't respond to exercise at all. You and your friend may both be resistant to benefiting from aerobic exercise.

    I haven't had the genetic test done but if my life experience is any sign, I think I'm on the non-responder end of the spectrum. I saw the BBC Horizon documentary The Truth About Exercise mentioned in several articles. I highly recommend it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cywtq

    Enjoy :drinker:


    A few articles on the exercise non responder topic:

    The Workout Enigma
    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/phys-ed-the-workout-enigma/

    Exercise won't shift the fat for one in six
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560630/Exercise-wont-shift-the-fat-for-one-in-six.html

    Genetic Test Says Who'll Benefit from Aerobic Exercise
    http://greatist.com/fitness/genetic-test-predict-exercise-101512

    Are You Likely to Respond to Exercise?http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/are-you-likely-to-respond-to-exercise/
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    I know my body is responding to working out I have lost 89 pounds and just as much inches in a year
    . I have just never had a gain like this since I started and neither has she.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.
    This, but also, you could be overestimating your "burn" from lifting if you're using HRMs to gauge it. HRMs are great for steady-state cardio, not so hot for measuring calories burned during resistance training.

    I don't eat back any of my workout calories. I look at it after cardio and it is anywhere from 400-500

    What is your calorie goal set at?

    Are you nearing that time of the month?

    Do you log everything and do it everyday? If so, for how long?

    Do you use a food scale?

    Are you tracking measurements? If so, have you still lost inches?
  • kagevf
    kagevf Posts: 509 Member
    age pls? maybe I can recalculate your macros
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.
    This, but also, you could be overestimating your "burn" from lifting if you're using HRMs to gauge it. HRMs are great for steady-state cardio, not so hot for measuring calories burned during resistance training.

    I don't eat back any of my workout calories. I look at it after cardio and it is anywhere from 400-500

    What is your calorie goal set at?

    Are you nearing that time of the month?

    Do you log everything and do it everyday? If so, for how long?

    Do you use a food scale?

    Are you tracking measurements? If so, have you still lost inches?

    I was at 1870 but the other day I turned it make to MFP setting so it is at 1700
    No
    YES everything!!! I have no clue how long for as long as I can remember! lol
    Yes food scale and measuring spoon/cups all the time!!
    Yes measuring but we have 2 more weeks we are only measuring at 6 and 12 weeks.
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    age pls? maybe I can recalculate your macros

    33
  • Maleficent0241
    Maleficent0241 Posts: 386 Member
    traceylynns
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!

    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!

    I have some news you may not like: some people don't respond to exercise at all. You and your friend may both be resistant to benefiting from aerobic exercise.

    I haven't had the genetic test done but if my life experience is any sign, I think I'm on the non-responder end of the spectrum. I saw the BBC Horizon documentary The Truth About Exercise mentioned in several articles. I highly recommend it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01cywtq

    Enjoy :drinker:


    A few articles on the exercise non responder topic:

    The Workout Enigma
    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/17/phys-ed-the-workout-enigma/

    Exercise won't shift the fat for one in six
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1560630/Exercise-wont-shift-the-fat-for-one-in-six.html

    Genetic Test Says Who'll Benefit from Aerobic Exercise
    http://greatist.com/fitness/genetic-test-predict-exercise-101512

    Are You Likely to Respond to Exercise?http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/are-you-likely-to-respond-to-exercise/

    This doesn't make sense in the context of gaining weight. The studies for non-responders have to do with VO2Max, which is more about fitness/endurance. In fact, the articles you link (I don't have access to the full text of the original study) specifically say that it does NOT have to do with the ability to lose weight:
    The new test will not tell you, for example, how exercise might affect your blood pressure over the long haul, Dr. Rankinen says, or whether your insulin sensitivity might change, or whether you’ll lose weight.

    I'd like to find full access to the original study, but even if the OP has this issue, it has nothing to do with the weight gain. That is most likely due to the other things already mentioned (water weight, miscalculation of calories, etc.)
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    Looking for input not sure what is going on!!


    A friend of mine and I are doing the same workouts. We both wear HRM so we know how many calories we are burning. I measure all my food!!! we lift 4 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week.

    but we both have gained 3-4 lbs in the last 4 weeks!! Any ideas on what we should do or not do!! Diary is open!!!! THANKS!
    Working out increases glycogen/water retention. Not uncommon and will stabilize if one is consistent with their workouts.
    This, but also, you could be overestimating your "burn" from lifting if you're using HRMs to gauge it. HRMs are great for steady-state cardio, not so hot for measuring calories burned during resistance training.

    I don't eat back any of my workout calories. I look at it after cardio and it is anywhere from 400-500

    What is your calorie goal set at?

    Are you nearing that time of the month?

    Do you log everything and do it everyday? If so, for how long?

    Do you use a food scale?

    Are you tracking measurements? If so, have you still lost inches?

    I was at 1870 but the other day I turned it make to MFP setting so it is at 1700
    No
    YES everything!!! I have no clue how long for as long as I can remember! lol
    Yes food scale and measuring spoon/cups all the time!!
    Yes measuring but we have 2 more weeks we are only measuring at 6 and 12 weeks.

    I'd give it another 4-6 weeks for you body to adjust to both the exercise and calorie intake. And don't worry about the gain until you see the measurements because your body may be dealing with retaining water for muscle repair. (I know I worded that weird. My bad. A little tired..hahaha. Someone will correct me with the correct terminology)

    If possible, try to weigh out your food a majority of the time versus table spoons and cups. Honestly, the difference is pretty noticeable when it comes down to how many calories you are actually consuming.
  • kagevf
    kagevf Posts: 509 Member
    I looked at least 8 days back and your carb intake are high

    Your BMR is: 1381
    Your TDEE is: 1959

    for fat loss you can eat between 1400-1700 5-6x/week.
    on weekends, you can eat 1900ish for eating out with family and friends or celebrating a feast/holiday/birthdays etc..

    try to input these macros to your MFP and hit these targets for 30days, see how it goes from there


    Carbs = 115 - 145
    Protein = 120-145
    Fats = 55-60
    Fiber = 29-36
  • traceylynns
    traceylynns Posts: 155 Member
    I looked at least 8 days back and your carb intake are high

    Your BMR is: 1381
    Your TDEE is: 1959

    for fat loss you can eat between 1400-1700 5-6x/week.
    on weekends, you can eat 1900ish for eating out with family and friends or celebrating a feast/holiday/birthdays etc..

    try to input these macros to your MFP and hit these targets for 30days, see how it goes from there


    Carbs = 115 - 145
    Protein = 120-145
    Fats = 55-60
    Fiber = 29-36

    Thanks I know the last week has not been to good for carbs thanks to being a woman!! I did just change it to 1700 and I had amost everything set like you just said besides the carbs, and I just changed!! It I will see how it goes!! THANKS again!!!

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