Duke Freshman outs herself
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Oh I went to high school with this girl. Not a pleasant individual
Which has to do with what?0 -
I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
It depends on how you are classifying the people who "make" it.
A lot of performers, both male but particularly female drift into the industry (from what I understand) through reasons other than pure choice. Many have been come from a background of sexual abuse, drug addiction, and chaotic home environments. These people are essentially vulnerable. They are then ruthlessly exploited by producers.
It is wrong to look down on the performers? In many cases yes. Is it wrong to look down on the producers? Absolutely not.0 -
Agree. If they do kick her out (I'm sure they'll find a technicality) you'd have to think how naive the university, supporters and alumni are if they think that paid porn would discredit university. Practically all colleges have some online porn sites depicting their students in their colleges who aren't getting paid. You see university banners hanging in the background. I hope she gets to stay and continue whatever classes she's taking and paying for.
Lol, you do realize that there are many NFL stars who are "thugs" that went to Universities and are praised as heroes for their schools?I agree that she is an adult and can earn her money whatever legal way she wants, however, she is still representing the university. I understand that as adults, we should be allowed to legally do what we want with our lives, but when you are doing something on the side that could have a negative impact on your school or regular place of business, then it's time to get your priorities in line. Does she want to be a porn star? Great more power to her! Does she want a desk job after college? That's fine too, but she needs to decide what she wants more.
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Of course I realize that. I don't think that's right either. As to the question of "why" it affects the reputation of the school, it's because people are so afraid of being judged instead of letting people live their lives. If, for example, Duke were to lose any funding because she's a porn star, my guess is they will kick her to the curb and follow the money. There is no clear right or wrong answer here. It's unfortunate that people can't legally live their lives as they wish without compromise, but it happens. Since it happens, there are personal decisions she will have to make.
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You've watched a lot of college porn, have you?0 -
I checked Duke's Student Guidelines and Policies; definitely nothing "morality driven" about it that could even remotely jeopardize her legal right to an education there.
I knew lots of kids that went to Duke, and dated a girl who went there too. Duke is definitely not trying to portray itself as a moral/religious institution, even if they have ties to it in their history. Hell, Harvard was founded on religious principles, and it is obviously one of the most liberal universities around. This applies to Duke as well.
For me there is no issue looking at this un-emotionally. If she was my daughter, of course I might feel different, but she's not. Let's all stop trying to debate the morality of her decision and look at this for what it is: A publicity stunt by a young woman to promote her porn career, which will at least temporarily be lucrative. Hence, a non-story.0 -
I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
It depends on how you are classifying the people who "make" it.
A lot of performers, both male but particularly female drift into the industry (from what I understand) through reasons other than pure choice. Many have been come from a background of sexual abuse, drug addiction, and chaotic home environments. These people are essentially vulnerable. They are then ruthlessly exploited by producers.
It is wrong to look down on the performers? In many cases yes. Is it wrong to look down on the producers? Absolutely not.
Wait....you said that producers "ruthlessly exploit" these poor souls and THEN You go on to say that it's NOT WRONG to look down on them for doing that?
what is WRONG with you?0 -
I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
It depends on how you are classifying the people who "make" it.
A lot of performers, both male but particularly female drift into the industry (from what I understand) through reasons other than pure choice. Many have been come from a background of sexual abuse, drug addiction, and chaotic home environments. These people are essentially vulnerable. They are then ruthlessly exploited by producers.
It is wrong to look down on the performers? In many cases yes. Is it wrong to look down on the producers? Absolutely not.
Wait....you said that producers "ruthlessly exploit" these poor souls and THEN You go on to say that it's NOT WRONG to look down on them for doing that?
what is WRONG with you?
Doh! That was a typo on my behalf. I meant the following: "Is it right to look down on the producers? Absolutely"0 -
I googled her and she sure didn't have a long career. Then again that industry is dying off due to free stuff online. I wonder how anyone at the school found out the harass her about it. The only reason that kid at the local college got caught was the school did some digging to see where he was getting large amounts of cash and outed him for it.0
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I think mostly the whole thing is still an issue of society still wanting to control women's sexuality. And when women don't behave as they should it freaks people out. That's what I think it really comes down too.0
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Oh I went to high school with this girl. Not a pleasant individual
Which has to do with what?
Just a statement, simply sharing my experience with her. Don't get your panties in a twist, it's too early for that :yawn:
On that tangent though, she's hardly a victim of circumstance as some media outlets have painted her. She had full ride offers to prestigious schools that she turned down, so the financial issue wasn't an "oops this is too expensive, whoda thunk" circumstance.0 -
I went to a different north carolina private college that cost just as much as Duke....I was lukcy that my parents paid it off when I graduated as my graduation present - but the idea that I owed that money those last couple of months in school was the worst feeling...at the time I would have done anything not to have that hanging over my head.0
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This is why I'm a Tarheel Fan!!!!!!!!
That is nothing to brag about. I say that with love.I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
I watch and I don't recall looking down on them. Maybe the girls who take on like, 12 guys at once because that's kinda gross. The other girls I'm kinda jealous of while watching.0 -
I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
It depends on how you are classifying the people who "make" it.
A lot of performers, both male but particularly female drift into the industry (from what I understand) through reasons other than pure choice. Many have been come from a background of sexual abuse, drug addiction, and chaotic home environments. These people are essentially vulnerable. They are then ruthlessly exploited by producers.
It is wrong to look down on the performers? In many cases yes. Is it wrong to look down on the producers? Absolutely not.
I understand what you're saying. But if you (royal you) feel that way then you also had better not watch it. Otherwise you're the one guilty of funding the industry you feel is so rotten.
Watch porn or don't, but don't be a hypocrite about it.
I've actually rarely watch it any more after reading the expose "Hollywood Blue".0 -
I say do what makes you happy. She is the only one that can live her life, no one else can do it for her. If this is what she wants to do then she should do it. If it's just a way to pay for bills and she would prefer not to do it, then she should choose something else or take out a student loan. If she doesn't have a problem with what she is doing, then why should anyone else. People should mind their own business. I somewhat wonder if it is not a celebrity gimmick for herself... she outted herself. I'm sure that will land her more jobs and more exposure too. But at what price? Will male teachers start hitting on her so that she can make the "A" in their class? If she told, would the school even care as I'm sure they would think she brought it on herself.... just some rambling thoughts running through my head.0
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college experience benefits porn career > porn experience damages college education
i'm putting my money on the spin that puts more money in her pocket0 -
I think it's despicable that most everyone watches porn and then look down on the people who make it. Seriously.
It depends on how you are classifying the people who "make" it.
A lot of performers, both male but particularly female drift into the industry (from what I understand) through reasons other than pure choice. Many have been come from a background of sexual abuse, drug addiction, and chaotic home environments. These people are essentially vulnerable. They are then ruthlessly exploited by producers.
It is wrong to look down on the performers? In many cases yes. Is it wrong to look down on the producers? Absolutely not.
I understand what you're saying. But if you (royal you) feel that way then you also had better not watch it. Otherwise you're the one guilty of funding the industry you feel is so rotten.
Watch porn or don't, but don't be a hypocrite about it.
I've actually rarely watch it any more after reading the expose "Hollywood Blue".
But yet you still do..0 -
Her body, her choice. She wasn't forced into the adult industry, she chose it. She wanted to go to duke and she chose to pay for it this way then alright. Do what you gotta do. If I had the body, self esteem, sex drive and wasn't in a relationship I'd do it. Why not, easy money.0
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It's a job. If she is doing it willingly, is regularly getting tested, if the set is sanitary and she enjoys what she's doing, then that's fine with me. I don't judge people on their jobs and the only people who do are uptight and prudeish IMO. There was a former porn star who was teaching children how to read. Unfortunately she can no longer do that because parents found out about her former career and apparently that makes her a monster not worthy of educating children. What a shame.0
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