Allergic to raw fruits and veggies

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  • lyttlewon
    lyttlewon Posts: 1,118 Member
    For those who haven't heard of it, there's a pretty good explanation of Oral Allergy Syndrome on Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome] but the gist of it is that people who suffer from hayfever are sometimes allergic to raw fruits and vegetables because of cross-pollination. Cooking the food removes the allergen.

    You are misunderstanding what Oral Allergy Syndrome is. OAS is your body recognizing a protein in a food and thinking it is the same protein you are allergic to in a pollen. It is NOT the same thing as this pollen getting on your food. Possibly the cooking is denaturing (not necessarily removing) the proteins to a point where you can eat these foods. I know this is possible with milk, but I have not researched this happening in other foods. I suggest seeking the advice of a board certified allergist (not a general practitioner or an ENT) and determining what you are allergic to. Allergies can potentially be life threatening if they become severe.

    An explanation of Oral Allergy Syndrome from the American Academy of Allergy Asthma and Immunology

    http://www.aaaai.org/conditions-and-treatments/library/allergy-library/outdoor-allergies-and-food-allergies-can-be-relate.aspx
  • shinkalork
    shinkalork Posts: 815 Member
    I have it too... It started around age 13...so 20 years ago I would say.
    I cannot eat all the apples,peach,pears,plum etc.... but all the melons,pineapple,banana,orange etc...are fine.
    So the ones you bite into.... No more for me.

    Veggies are complicated....I can for some,not others....

    It's sad cause I like them all.
  • sak90027
    sak90027 Posts: 12 Member
    I'm really surprised at the non-judgmental responses on this. Every blog, news article, message boards etc. that takes on the topic of food allergies seems to garner a negative or skeptical response from most people. people here are more empathetic which is nice :happy:

    i became allergic to nectarine and peaches in my early 30's. until then i was fine with eating those fruits. i get OAS with fresh mangoes. if they're previously frozen or processed i'm ok. or course i passed my allergic genes to my child who has sever tree nut and peanut allergies.

    i think with apples you can make cooked applesauce. i know it's not the same as eating raw apples but you can puree and then cook it down with a bit of water and maybe some cinnamon.
  • schell81
    schell81 Posts: 187 Member
    I'm not sure if it would be cooked enough for you, but I love grilling fruit. My favorite is pineapple with lime juice and black pepper but I've tried lots of different fruits and veggies. You need very little oil or none if you have a good non stick grill.
  • kenazfehu
    kenazfehu Posts: 1,188 Member
    How about dropping them into boiling water, then freezing?

    Baked apples is pretty awesome.
  • casiej11
    casiej11 Posts: 21 Member
    I have a very similar problem with raw fruits and veggies. If they are cooked at all or processed I have no problem with them. I have started peeling apples and dicing them. I then will toss them with some cinnamon and just a touch of sugar (sometimes) and put them in the microwave for a minute. Taste like the apple pie filling but without all the fat. I like to steam veggies or boil them. It may lose some of the nutritional value but in my opinion I am at least getting some of the nutrition, better than not eating them at all. Its nice to see I'm not the only one out there with this problem. It didn't start till I was in college. Weird! And yes, I have horrible hay fever and pollen allergies.
  • baileysmom4
    baileysmom4 Posts: 242 Member
    I love to take an apple, chopped up and put some cinnamon on it and microwave it just until they are soft. I sometime put a bit of brown sugar on them but if its a sweet apple it doesn't need it. Very yummy.
  • BarackMeLikeAHurricane
    BarackMeLikeAHurricane Posts: 3,400 Member
    Steam, boil, and bake everything.
  • trtviper
    trtviper Posts: 1
    I have a very similar allergy. You need to have a full allergy test done by a specialist so that you know what to avoid. For myself, I found that I am not allergic to white fish, but I am allergic to the algae they eat. I am allergic to the grass pollens that mix with orchard fruits(which can be greatly helped with weekly allergy shots), I am allergic to citrus fruits, particularly those grown in areas that they can cross pollinate with rubber trees(very sensitive to latex). Some are in these genetic families, such as avocados are made from the same proteins as rubber. Cooking will only work if you get the temperature high enough to denature the proteins and break down the allergin. Which also breaks down the nutrients. But there are some ways around this and your allergist will know exactly what to do for you. I am allergic to onions and garlic, cooking doses not break them down enough, but dehydrating does. So I can now cook with powdered onion and garlic and still retain some nutrients. Again the allergist can give you specific advice how to get around each allergy or how to avoid it.
  • I see that this discussion thread is from a while ago so I don't know if anyone will see it, but I discovered through dumb luck and trial-and-error when I was in high school that Zyrtec (or its generic equivalent, which is now available OTC in 300-day supplies, so it's a relatively cheap solution spread across the year where it wasn't before) helps significantly. Essentially, I had been given a few free samples from the doctor's office and randomly noticed afterwards that I could eat raw cantaloupe without my mouth or inner ear itching. (For me, my mouth does not always itch, only for the worst offenders, but always the inner ear, which always made me feel like a big weirdo until I confirmed tonight that this condition is actually "a thing" that has a name. It is more annoying than anything else, for me.) I think my body has developed somewhat of a tolerance to the medicine over time since I have been taking it daily or nearly daily for several years now as an adult, and some foods are still more prone to bother me if not cooked (raw carrots always seem to get me), but I can eat most raw fruits now without experiencing symptoms or they are at the very least noticeably dampened to the point where most things don't bother me. This discovery was a big deal to me since I love fresh fruit and had outright avoided it for several years growing up. I have been curious if, after maintaining this regimen for some time now, if I tried not taking it for an extended period of time, would my symptoms be worse (as I would expect), better, or the same - but I haven't tried that experiment yet. But anyway, in addition to cooking foods and occasionally avoiding them, this method has allowed me to enjoy many of the offending foods raw, with seemingly no negative consequences. I hope this solution is helpful to others as well. If anyone tries it and it works, I'd be interested to know.
  • Journeygirl
    Journeygirl Posts: 40 Member
    I have OAS, but really haven't been to an allergist. I violently vomit if I eat any raw almonds or if I eat fresh carrot with the skin. The older the carrot, the easier for me to eat it. I'm also allergic to strawberries (I get hives). I'm sorry I don't have any recipes but I just had to say it's just good to "hear" conversation about this. So thank you.
  • Oh my goodness! I have this as well! People are always telling me I am crazy and you can't be allergic to fresh fruits and veggies, I've even had doctors tell me it was impossible! I just have to cook everything to mush just about....But I have found that childrens liquid benadryl works wonders for me, if I do have a reaction. Though like you I don't want to have to take that every day! I usually steam everything or for like squash I slice it very thin and then saute it until it is nearly clear! Also with fruit baking them does seem to help, though it just isn't the same.
  • I suffer from this too! Hazelnuts, green apples, carrots, and nectarine / peaches are the worst. I can eat them in a fruit saled however if I have poured orange juice over them and:happy: left for a couple of hours. Cherries were the worst offenders but can eat them in yogurt.

    xx
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,301 Member
    I wonder if you tried tinned fruit in, sh, syrup. My problem is principally salicylate and pear in syrup is supposed to be fine. Juices used in the process could upset some.

    I've been too frightened of my breathing, joint and muscle pain related issues to go very far up the salicylate scale only to have the realisation about two years ago it gets me through smells as well, other peoples perfumes, washing powder/fabric softener smells being the worst, arms length is sometimes too close in the open air. I used to find getting about difficult because of the pain now its the smells in public and private places which terrify me.

    to anyone with food related issues and or anything else, keep your chin up and I hope you find your answers or a good coping mechanism.
  • Wow! Your story is the same as mine. I ate all these fruits raw as a kid, although, I did have severe allergies to grass pollens. My first reactions to raw foods happened after pregnancy; this is a time when the immune system has to withdraw and change so it will not attack the fetus of the developing child.

    During pregnancy with my first child I ate pistachios by the bag full...just couldn't get enough. Some time after the second child I ate 8 pistachios and was in the emergency room..

    .then it was a kiwi...then it was a lychee nut...then it was mangos...(ten hours in emerg with two different drugs being pumped in through I.V.s)

    I am allergic to wheat, all of it, not just gluten...my daughter and cousin are celiac; they could eat wheat grass if they chose, as there is no gluten in the grass portion...I would break out in hives!! I am terribly allergic to wheat germ, although I ate it when I was younger with no problems...read an interesting article on wheat germ agglutinin to help me understand this allergy...wheat is terribly fattening, btw.

    then celery, carrots, parsley, strawberries, apples...if I touch the apples when I chop them up I get severe hives,(not so with the others, except mango, mango is bad!) Then the nuts...my favourite, hazelnut, then almonds, cashews (darn!), no real problems with walnuts. Carrots, celery, parsley and such are related plants. Strawberry, lychee, kiwi are also related, and they are all somehow related to trees and when I had allergy tests it showed I was allergic to ALL trees, especially cedar and birch.

    Cooking or freezing solves everything. Sad, cause I want to go on a raw food diet. Funny thing is, it is fairly cyclical, in that I am not always as allergic; there are times when I can eat carrots, and celery raw, but, never mangos. I did have a reprieve with apples for a spell...mmmm...crunching into a fresh apple without having to take benedryl first. I used to take a benedryl, wait an hour, and then eat everything I couldn't normally eat, but benedryll screws with your heart if you take it too often. Arrhythmias.

    I found milk, or yogurt seemed to diminish the effects of berry allergies, but I just play safe...if they are frozen and then thawed they are fine, so why take a chance?

    When it first started the doctor said it was probably pesticides and such, and suggested peeling the fruit, but that's not it, as I grow organic fruit in my yard...peeling did not help.

    My cousin developed a severe shellfish allergy after her pregnancies...there is some information on how progesterone works to stabilize the immune system...very good research.

    I have a little sinful, and naughty secret I learned a year ago; I bought a fancy e-cigarette with nicotine liquid for my roommate so he didn't have to go out in -45 to smoke, but he thought it looked dorky; not wanting to waste it and knowing nicotine increases metabolism and suppresses hunger, I thought I'd just use it up....heck, maybe I could finally curb my appetite and lose a few!

    so, after only 15 puffs of vapour my sinuses opened up and I could breathe, my lungs opened up and I could breath deeply....did the research...nicotine is a powerful anti-inflammatory, and anti-histamine, so much so research is being done to synthesize it so it can be an over the counter drug.

    The best part is that when I am bitten by a bug, or have a reaction to something I just puff away and it is all neutralized without putting me to sleep for hours (benedryl)....so, not something I could recommend to anyone (btw, I have never been a smoker...disgusting taste, and hate the burn in the lungs) I don't think smoking cigarettes is the same thing as there are too many other chemicals involved....and vaporizing is not the same as smoking. My son used pot during chemo and used a vaporizer so his lungs did not suffer.

    btw., again, Mayo clinic and several other sources state that nicotine by itself is not addicting and I can attest to that, cause I have no urge to use this gadget, and will forget about it most of the time (and lose it lol)....but it has helped me tremendously with regards to allergies and chronic pain in joints, and the swelling in my lower leg is gone...but, again, not something I could recommend to anyone...you'd have to research how nicotine receptors in the brain affect your body. Very hard to find research on nicotine as an isolate because most research is directed toward nicotine in commercial cigarettes.

    Good luck to everyone with food allergies....what a pain!!!
  • Ever think about steaming? Steamed carrots and broccoli and green beans is amazing. Roasted peppers? mmm. Or even, as some have said, grilling fruits with meats? Chicken with pineapple?

    I've never heard of such a thing- it seems impossible in my mind. Fruits and Vegetables.. they're our main source of food, really. But i guess if i was you, i'd literally steam cook everything.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    You don't need to add anything to fruits or vegetables for cooking. Things like salt, fat or sugar are added for flavor. Boiling, steaming, microwaving, baking are ways to cook without oil.

    Have you tried looking for fruits and vegetables grown in a greenhouse? There should be no cross pollination with hay in those.
  • fannyfrost
    fannyfrost Posts: 756 Member
    I have grilled veggies on a BBQ and they are awesome that way.

    Bananas with just a little cinnamon
    Pineapple
    Apple just a little cinnamon

    Basically you want to cook them on high heat. Add cinnamon to fruits that aren't as sweet. I even saw them say you can do with Watermelon or oranges.

    using the broiler in the oven would work too.

    For berries - Try microwaving them with just a 1/4 tsp honey. I bet that would come out great.
  • fannyfrost
    fannyfrost Posts: 756 Member
    Oh for veggies, I buy frozen and microwave them. The steamfresh bags are great, comes out tasting quite good and the plain ones have not added salt.
  • eddiesmith1
    eddiesmith1 Posts: 1,550 Member
    For those who haven't heard of it, there's a pretty good explanation of Oral Allergy Syndrome on Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome] but the gist of it is that people who suffer from hayfever are sometimes allergic to raw fruits and vegetables because of cross-pollination. Cooking the food removes the allergen. That means that I can't eat raw apples, but I can eat apple pie, for instance. I've dealt with this almost my whole life. Some fruits and veggies are worse than others. Blueberries, for example, make my mouth a little itchy but only if I eat a lot of them. Peaches, on the other hand, make my skin break out if I just touch them. Even being in the same room while they're being cut makes me sneeze and my throat gets scratchy. I had one scary run-in with boysenberries where my throat actually started to close up; but other days I've been able to eat them with only minor scratchy throat. Usually I can take Benadryl and that helps a lot, but I'd prefer not to take it every day. And like I said, I can eat them if they're cooked - just not raw.

    Anyway, it makes trying to eat healthy really difficult sometimes. I would love to be able to eat an apple for a snack, but I can't. Raw carrots would be wonderful. I can't even remember the last time I had a slice of fresh peach.

    Does anyone have any ideas on some alternate ways I could fix them? Every recipe I know of adds butter or sugar, and I know a lot of the nutrients get cooked out anyway. Anyone else have OAS?


    Worst offenders - these are the ones where I often break out if I even touch them:
    Peaches, plums, apricots, nectarines, cherries, blackberries, boysenberries, mangoes, guava, passion fruit, figs

    Not quite as bad, but these give me a very scratchy throat:
    Apples, carrots, kiwifruit, tomatoes, pomegranates, parsnips, peas, broccoli, cauliflower

    These make me a bit itchy if I eat a lot, but I can tolerate them for the most part:
    Almonds, avocados (but I don't care for them), pears, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, hazelnuts, walnuts, cucumber, sometimes watermelon, potatoes, parsley, peppers, coconut, pecans, cranberries

    Usually no problems:
    celery, bananas, honeydew melon, cantaloupe, oranges, tangerines, sunflower seeds, pineapple, dates, grapefruit

    Apples I make Applesauce just with apples or with apples and cranberries, no added sugar (the apples have plenty) I just cook it slowly (no added water diced up fruit) - you could do the same with pears peaches, nectarines, plums, and any berries you like, you can mix and match and just cook until done (longer cooking will take you down the apple butter road)
    Sorry about the allergy that would drive me nuts
    As for apple pie - I l=know a lot of people add sugar and cornstarch etc to make a pie, I never do, Sliced apples maybe a tbsp of sugar and cinnamon - works fine but is a lot tarter than the standard pie

    EDIT - and as pointed out you can grill almost anything (in fact Grilled fruit is great particularly peaches )