What the bloody hell is going on?
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I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.0 -
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It says that 1700 is my actual TDEE, as I haven't put in any exercise or that I wanted to lose any weight...
Do think therefore it's wrong??
Yeah, weightlifting won't happen I have no access to a gym. I'll have to buy some for home.
HIIT seems a good idea, and much more likely, I could slot a session in at the weekend!
Thanks
TDEE calculators are estimates. You can only find your actual TDEE by trial and error (eating at a certain number of calories for an extended period of time and tracking weight loss/ gain). If you are actually eating at 1500 and have not gained or lost weight, then 1500 is more likely your TDEE.
Thank you, this may be the case. Sadly.0 -
Hi all,
I'm so stuck and feeling poo, and this is why:
I eat so much healthier than I use to and a lot less. I lost 6lbs but this has halted since before christmas. I gained a little then, but have since lost it again. Now I'm 148lbs and have been stuck on that weight since January.
My TDEE is about 1700 apparently (according to online calculators), but I rarely ever get to that figure. Maybe once every two weeks? I usually eat about 1500 calories.
I've started running 3 times a week, 3 weeks ago, before that I did barely anything apart from walk about at the weekends. I don't eat back my calories. I haven't lost a lb since I started.
I am 148lbs, and want to get to 130lbs initally. My Lean Body Mass is apparently 109lbs (again calculated on a calculator). So this goal isn't unreasonable. Ideally I'd want to be under 9stone but it's looking unlikely.
So can someone let me know what the hell is happening. I can't eat less as I can't concentrate on work, I can't exercise more frequently yet, as I'm not fit enough. I'm gradually building up my run times weekly.
Why haven't I lost any weight? What can I do? Will I just lose it eventually with my continued exercise??
I'm a very accurate food logger too, so it's not that. I also don't believe in all that tripe about big bones and genetic issues.
I just want to be fit and slim. Help me please guys!!!
P.S. I'm 5'6"
Try resistance training. Since you don't have access to a gym, google bodyweight exercises. www.startbodyweight.com is kinda cool. I do mainly body weight stuff, now that I'm in maintenance. Also, you should be eating back some if not all of your exercise calories. MFP overestimates, so maybe start with eating back half of them. And you shouldn't NET below your BMR - that's what your body would burn if you stayed in bed all day, which it sounds like you may be doing. And you'll need to give yourself 3-4 weeks to adjust to everything, as well. Results take time. Best of luck!0 -
I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.
Jeez. I think I'm going to have eat generally fewer calories just in case, as measuring this vigilantly seems like a waste of my life :P
I never use cups, as I'm not american and have no idea how big a cup is :P
But I'll take note on weights over other measurements. I do tend to measure peanut butter with spoons rather weighing it, so this could be a new thing.0 -
I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
because I see lots of entries with 1c or 1 cutlet, 1 Burger, 1 Roll, 1/2c, 1 pastry, 0.3can, 1 pita, 1 banana etc...
Unless you eat out almost every day you need to tighten up your logging and even if you do go out doubling maintenance even if you are in a deficet for 2 weeks can make it so you don't lose...
Logging accurately means choosing the correct entries too.
Yeah I understand, but when I buy say nut cutlets, the information is 1 cutlet = X amount calories. If I eat one of these, surely this is accurate?
Same for pitas, rolls, burgers...
I admit I don't weigh bananas, but I pick a banana from the entries based on it's length.
I'm sure this isn't the problem though...
Hate to say it, but no. Not accurate. Manufacturers don't have to adhere to tight tolerances. That one cutlet could weigh 20% more than other cutlets in the same box (or 20% less). I will say that manufacturers tend to err on the side of giving you too much because they don't want to be caught shorting people.
Unfortunately, if you have a relatively small deficit, and log a lot of that type of entry, inaccurate measuring can easily be the problem.0 -
Well that sucks. Like I've said the someone else, I'll create a larger deficit to cover any mishaps. I don't have the time to weigh so many elements of my dinners.
I'll go change my goals now....0 -
It takes about 10 minutes out of my day to weigh mine, my wife and my daughters food for the whole 24 hrs. Even if you don't have 10 minutes, just get up 10 minutes earlier!! Theres one thing with weightloss and healthy eating, you either do it 100% or you end up asking, "why aren't I losing"............0
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I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.
I think what they were trying to say was that they do measure out the 40g, but when it posts to their diary it shows up as 1/2 cup. That happens to me all the time. This morning I weighed out 10g of honey and 113g of yogurt and it shows up as .5 tbsp and .5 cups respectively.
ETA: To the OP, it takes about 10-15 extra minutes a day to weigh and log accurately everything you eat within your power (i.e. not at a restaurant). It’s worth this small extra effort. And building recipes you use often is a great tool.0 -
It takes about 10 minutes out of my day to weigh mine, my wife and my daughters food for the whole 24 hrs. Even if you don't have 10 minutes, just get up 10 minutes earlier!! Theres one thing with weightloss and healthy eating, you either do it 100% or you end up asking, "why aren't I losing"............
Fair enough, as I weigh 80% of it anyway, I guess it probably won't be that bad. It just does seem so extreme to weigh every ml of milk etc. But I guess you're right0 -
I don't know about you guys, but when it is described in cups or something along that line on the packaging it came in, right beside it, it has the actual weight in grams. Such as: 1 chicken fillet (100g), which I find immensely helpful. Is that not listed on your food? Same with ground beef, example being regular ground beef is 220 cals per cup i believe, or 5 ounces.0
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It takes about 10 minutes out of my day to weigh mine, my wife and my daughters food for the whole 24 hrs. Even if you don't have 10 minutes, just get up 10 minutes earlier!! Theres one thing with weightloss and healthy eating, you either do it 100% or you end up asking, "why aren't I losing"............
Fair enough, as I weigh 80% of it anyway, I guess it probably won't be that bad. It just does seem so extreme to weigh every ml of milk etc. But I guess you're right
Edit: Lol I'm such a whiner. Of course I should weigh it!0 -
I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.
I do that too because often the entries in the data base are listed that way..in cups or oz rather than grams. I always do the measurement in grams on my scale and compare it with the serving sizes listed on the food packaging regardless of how it is listed in the data base.0 -
People who have lots of muscle mass or who work out a lot get to eat a lot. I'm 5'5" and maintain a window of 130-135. My TDEE is 1800 and I work out a few times a week. I think you're just eating too much, or not working out enough.0
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People who have lots of muscle mass or who work out a lot get to eat a lot. I'm 5'5" and maintain a window of 130-135. My TDEE is 1800 and I work out a few times a week. I think you're just eating too much, or not working out enough.
I want to be in the situation! This is why I asked the question to begin with, as I'm finding it particularly frustrating seeing wonderfully successful people like yourself, being slimmer than myself but doing the same and eating sometime more than me.
I'll take everyone's comments on board and then hopefully I can have my own success story.0 -
Go have your thyroid checked to make sure its working properly. I was exercising 6 days a week and eating 1566 calories and didnt lose a pound for a year, got on the synthroid, lost 20 lbs in 4 weeks!0
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I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.
I do that too because often the entries in the data base are listed that way..in cups or oz rather than grams. I always do the measurement in grams on my scale and compare it with the serving sizes listed on the food packaging regardless of how it is listed in the data base.
I wasn't trying to call you a liar when I first looked it appeared as you didn't weight much. As you indicated you did weight most I did say that logging accurately means choosing the right entry.
I am right with you....close to goal and I understand how frustrating it can be this close and want to let loose a bit here and a bit there...but being so close to goal means being that much tighter...
Entries in this database are all over the place I agree...I often tell folks use entries that don't start with homemade or generic and the ones that start with an * are all user entered...now if the nutrional data has been confirmed a lot I find it safe to use...otherwise I look for USDA entries that don't start with an asterik.
If I can't find one...for example potatoes in grams...baked...couldn't find one...so I googled it "nutrional data for baked potato" (this one is for chicken) but it looks like this and I made my own entry...using my initals at the end so when I search for it I know it's correct.
Sounds like a lot I agree but I want to be at goal by the first day of summer so the bit of time it takes me is worth the effort....
As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...0 -
30%protein
10% fat
40% carbs
20% veggies
If this is what you're doing you should change it. Your profile says you're female - 10% is dangerously low.
Oh and veg are usually carbs0 -
Don't worry what the scale says. Have you taken your measurements?? Remember muscle weights more than fat.0
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As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...
Actually I never asked for help on "why I'm not losing weight". I asked for people's experiences with ketosis and/or seeing their diaries to make the keto macros work. You took it upon yourself to criticize my diary, which I never asked for. You do this constantly in the forums and it's rather obnoxious.
An overwhelming amount of people on my FL commented on how inappropriate you were.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you weigh something and the nutritional information is listed in grams and cups that you can log it in cups.0 -
I'm 5'5" and I need to net 1200 to lose pounds (last tested when I needed to go from 138 to 130 a few months ago). I'm also small-medium frame and a non-athletic body type (little muscle despite exercising, hourglass shape etc). I'm an avid runner but I don't measure every single gram of food - especially low cal stuff like lettuce or mustard. I'll go with "cups" and "Tbsp" there. I tried losing at about 1500/day net, running almost every day (4+ miles daily) and eating back my calories. Didn't lose a bit in 4 weeks... I switched to 1200 and eating back all my cals and I lost it in 6-7 weeks.
Exercising does work in recomping the body - I do weight lifting twice a week now, and I fit well in clothes for which I "should" be 5 pounds lighter. But in order to lose actual fat from my tummy/legs/hips I have to stay at 1200 net. I learned to accept that is who I am... When I eat lots of veggies and protein and don't waste my calories on sweets it's actually easy.0 -
I looked at your diary and you don't weigh your food.
And I have seen at least 3 days this month where you are over maintenance by a lot..usually weekends. If your TDEE is 1700
It's a matter of calories in being more than claories out...
This weekend was particularly bad, I admit. This is because I was out all weekend. I had been walking over the whole weekend also I just don't log it, so it might not be as bad as it looks.
As it goes for weighing food, I definitely weigh all my food that isn't from a restaurant. What makes you think that I don't? I weigh my cereal in the morning and log the exact amount. Then when I make my lunch it's all being weighed as it goes into my lunch box. Same with dinners. I have one those small electronic scales.
Don't mind her... she creeped through my diary earlier this week and accused me of not weighing my food as well. Just ignore her... I'm sure you would know whether or not you weigh your food.
If you are weighing all of your food, it should be logged in by grams, ounces, etc. not by cups, or slices, etc. That's why Stef is saying it's not all weighed accurately. It actually makes quite a big difference in your accuracy if you are entering food based on weight vs. measurements.
I do that too because often the entries in the data base are listed that way..in cups or oz rather than grams. I always do the measurement in grams on my scale and compare it with the serving sizes listed on the food packaging regardless of how it is listed in the data base.
I wasn't trying to call you a liar when I first looked it appeared as you didn't weight much. As you indicated you did weight most I did say that logging accurately means choosing the right entry.
I am right with you....close to goal and I understand how frustrating it can be this close and want to let loose a bit here and a bit there...but being so close to goal means being that much tighter...
Entries in this database are all over the place I agree...I often tell folks use entries that don't start with homemade or generic and the ones that start with an * are all user entered...now if the nutrional data has been confirmed a lot I find it safe to use...otherwise I look for USDA entries that don't start with an asterik.
If I can't find one...for example potatoes in grams...baked...couldn't find one...so I googled it "nutrional data for baked potato" (this one is for chicken) but it looks like this and I made my own entry...using my initals at the end so when I search for it I know it's correct.
Sounds like a lot I agree but I want to be at goal by the first day of summer so the bit of time it takes me is worth the effort....
As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...
Thanks, it does make sense.
It is hard to not sound weird when you're just typing and not speaking. People sound harsh when they're not, and vice versa :P0 -
Go have your thyroid checked to make sure its working properly. I was exercising 6 days a week and eating 1566 calories and didnt lose a pound for a year, got on the synthroid, lost 20 lbs in 4 weeks!
I had a similar experience. If you feel that you're being really accurate with the food weighing, check into other things There are quite a few issues out there -- thyroid, insulin resistance, etc. Once I got mine figured out, I lost almost double in 3 weeks what had previously taken me three months to lose -- and it was great not to feel crazy and frustrated anymore!0 -
If you're only on a 200 calorie deficit and you say you sometimes overeat, you're eating at maintenance as those extra calories are keeping you there.0
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I'm 5'5" and I need to net 1200 to lose pounds (last tested when I needed to go from 138 to 130 a few months ago). I'm also small-medium frame and a non-athletic body type (little muscle despite exercising, hourglass shape etc). I'm an avid runner but I don't measure every single gram of food - especially low cal stuff like lettuce or mustard. I'll go with "cups" and "Tbsp" there. I tried losing at about 1500/day net, running almost every day (4+ miles daily) and eating back my calories. Didn't lose a bit in 4 weeks... I switched to 1200 and eating back all my cals and I lost it in 6-7 weeks.
Exercising does work in recomping the body - I do weight lifting twice a week now, and I fit well in clothes for which I "should" be 5 pounds lighter. But in order to lose actual fat from my tummy/legs/hips I have to stay at 1200 net. I learned to accept that is who I am... When I eat lots of veggies and protein and don't waste my calories on sweets it's actually easy.
This is interesting, and may very well be the case for me. I'll try 1200 for a while, I'm sure it'll work, it's just a case of my body getting used to it. As most of my calories are now in the evening, when I least need them, it'll probably be easier than if I'm use to eating a huge breakfast.
Also, I'm glad that this works for you even though you're eating back your calories. That also makes it seem more manageable.0 -
As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...
Actually I never asked for help on "why I'm not losing weight". I asked for people's experiences with ketosis and/or seeing their diaries to make the keto macros work. You took it upon yourself to criticize my diary, which I never asked for. You do this constantly in the forums and it's rather obnoxious.
An overwhelming amount of people on my FL commented on how inappropriate you were.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you weigh something and the nutritional information is listed in grams and cups that you can log it in cups.
So OP should ignore Stef's on point advice in a thread where checking out a diary is usually standard procedure because she "snooped" your public diary once.....?0 -
As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...
Actually I never asked for help on "why I'm not losing weight". I asked for people's experiences with ketosis and/or seeing their diaries to make the keto macros work. You took it upon yourself to criticize my diary, which I never asked for. You do this constantly in the forums and it's rather obnoxious.
An overwhelming amount of people on my FL commented on how inappropriate you were.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you weigh something and the nutritional information is listed in grams and cups that you can log it in cups.
Please, don't jack the thread with your personal issues.0 -
As for me "creeping diaries" when folks ask for help why am I not losing weight I look at diaries and if I see cups, slices, pieces it appears that things aren't weighed...I note it and advise it...I also recommend using correct entries...
If people are upset that others see something and comment on it then don't ask a random forum with random strangers for help...
Actually I never asked for help on "why I'm not losing weight". I asked for people's experiences with ketosis and/or seeing their diaries to make the keto macros work. You took it upon yourself to criticize my diary, which I never asked for. You do this constantly in the forums and it's rather obnoxious.
An overwhelming amount of people on my FL commented on how inappropriate you were.
It doesn't take a genius to realize that if you weigh something and the nutritional information is listed in grams and cups that you can log it in cups.
Please, don't jack the thread with your personal issues.
my bad :blushing:0 -
If I can't find one...for example potatoes in grams...baked...couldn't find one...so I googled it "nutrional data for baked potato" (this one is for chicken) but it looks like this and I made my own entry...using my initals at the end so when I search for it I know it's correct.
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list0 -
If I can't find one...for example potatoes in grams...baked...couldn't find one...so I googled it "nutrional data for baked potato" (this one is for chicken) but it looks like this and I made my own entry...using my initals at the end so when I search for it I know it's correct.
http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/search/list
agreed...I am tempted to take my commonly eaten foods and just doing it for all of them....might take some time but at least then I know they are correct.0
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