James Duigan's Clean and Lean Diet

fitness_faeiry
fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
in Food and Nutrition
Has anyone bought this book or followed this plan? I am looking for a Clean Recipes book and this one seems to have been well received....

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clean-Lean-Diet-Bestselling-Achieving/dp/0857831704/ref=la_B0051P65EY_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1395226107&sr=1-1

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  • KolindL
    KolindL Posts: 2
    Yes ... it is brilliant and you feel amazing.

    It is a lot of food to prepare and eat, but it does really make a difference.

    I use it now as part of my daily food planning - try and go for clean and lean as a rule.
  • squiguk
    squiguk Posts: 29 Member
    I have 2 of the books - Clean and Lean with the 14 Day Kickstart and the Recipes book.

    I'm on Day 10 of the 14 day kickstart and it is horrible. I've done it before and I can say it works but it's not for me. I think it's mostly because I don't actually like chicken and green veg and thats most of the plan.

    I've felt constantly sick and haven't even managed to finish chicken salads and stuff. I'm never doing this again! But having said that, most people rave about it and like I said, you do lose weight on it and if you can carry on eating clean using his recipes I don't see why you couldn't keep it off.

    I'm craving fruit like crazy and the plan has managed to put me off chicken, eggs, turkey and green veg so not sure what I'll do next week but oh well!

    However the Recipes book is good, it includes fruit and carbs and is much more interesting.

    Good luck!
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    no, I do not believe n starting a diet with a "detox" and I do not believe in clean eating..

    any book that starts its premise with "eat clean to detox" is pseudoscience and not worth your money IMO….

    eat in a deficit, work out more, adhere to macros = long term success...
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    I have 2 of the books - Clean and Lean with the 14 Day Kickstart and the Recipes book.

    I'm on Day 10 of the 14 day kickstart and it is horrible. I've done it before and I can say it works but it's not for me. I think it's mostly because I don't actually like chicken and green veg and thats most of the plan.

    I've felt constantly sick and haven't even managed to finish chicken salads and stuff. I'm never doing this again! But having said that, most people rave about it and like I said, you do lose weight on it and if you can carry on eating clean using his recipes I don't see why you couldn't keep it off.

    I'm craving fruit like crazy and the plan has managed to put me off chicken, eggs, turkey and green veg so not sure what I'll do next week but oh well!

    However the Recipes book is good, it includes fruit and carbs and is much more interesting.

    Good luck!


    Eeesh that sounds horrible..just chicken and veg?. I don't even eat chicken. I think any plan that is too restrictive is never a good thing. I have tried just eliminating gluten for a week or so and seen what difference that has made to my body - inside and out. Thanks for your views - very useful! I will have a look into the recipe book.
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    no, I do not believe n starting a diet with a "detox" and I do not believe in clean eating..

    any book that starts its premise with "eat clean to detox" is pseudoscience and not worth your money IMO….

    eat in a deficit, work out more, adhere to macros = long term success...

    this is my problem... I don't like eating at a deficit as then I feel like I'm on a diet. At present I am adhering to my maintenance at around 1750 cals, but I can easily eat 2000 in a day! I like to eat food but I am only 56kg. However I do agree with what you're saying though, the science is calories in<calories out. Its my macros I need to address
  • squiguk
    squiguk Posts: 29 Member
    Yeah, you get 5 small meals a day so for example:

    Breakfast = Egg white omelette
    Morning snack = 100g chicken and cucumber
    Lunch = chicken salad
    Afternoon snack = 100g turkey and green beans
    Dinner = Salmon and green beans

    Like I said, it does work as its so healthy but you can't have anything sweet like fruit and that's what I miss. You're not meant to feel hungry as you eat 5 meals a day but unless you like the food it's pretty tough.

    But yeh this is different to his recipe book which is much more varied but I agree that an overall healthy approach of a varied diet with not too much rubbish and regular exercise is much better in the long run. I'm just doing this for a kickstart!
  • Athijade
    Athijade Posts: 3,300 Member
    no, I do not believe n starting a diet with a "detox" and I do not believe in clean eating..

    any book that starts its premise with "eat clean to detox" is pseudoscience and not worth your money IMO….

    eat in a deficit, work out more, adhere to macros = long term success...

    this is my problem... I don't like eating at a deficit as then I feel like I'm on a diet. At present I am adhering to my maintenance at around 1750 cals, but I can easily eat 2000 in a day! I like to eat food but I am only 56kg. However I do agree with what you're saying though, the science is calories in<calories out. Its my macros I need to address

    Then you won't lose any weight, no matter what "diet" you do.

    All "diets" are just ways to eat at a deficit. Usually by restricting a food group or making you eat "clean" (whatever the hell that is since the definitions never seem to match from one "diet" to the next). That is the only way to actually lose weight. You CAN gain weight eating clean if you don't watch your calories.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    no, I do not believe n starting a diet with a "detox" and I do not believe in clean eating..

    any book that starts its premise with "eat clean to detox" is pseudoscience and not worth your money IMO….

    eat in a deficit, work out more, adhere to macros = long term success...

    this is my problem... I don't like eating at a deficit as then I feel like I'm on a diet. At present I am adhering to my maintenance at around 1750 cals, but I can easily eat 2000 in a day! I like to eat food but I am only 56kg. However I do agree with what you're saying though, the science is calories in<calories out. Its my macros I need to address

    are you trying to lose weight or just do some kind of body recomp???

    If you are trying to lose weight then you have to eat in a deficit, no matter what "diet" you do...
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    Yeah I'm eating at maintenance because Im trying to recomposition. I will then eat at a deficit after to lean out and lose body fat %

    What I don't understand is, what happens when you eat at a deficit for a while and your body adjusts to consuming to that many calories - how do you go back to eating more without gaining the body fat back?
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Yeah I'm eating at maintenance because Im trying to recomposition. I will then eat at a deficit after to lean out and lose body fat %

    What I don't understand is, what happens when you eat at a deficit for a while and your body adjusts to consuming to that many calories - how do you go back to eating more without gaining the body fat back?

    simple answer - you cannot eat more then you burn and not gain body fat. Your body is just not efficient enough to convert 100% of excess energy to muscle; therefore, some of it has to go to fat stores...

    If you are doing a recomp, I would suggest eating in about a 10% deficit and lifting heavy. What is your current lifting program like? Just so you are aware, recomp is usually a really slow process ...
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    Yeah I'm eating at maintenance because Im trying to recomposition. I will then eat at a deficit after to lean out and lose body fat %

    What I don't understand is, what happens when you eat at a deficit for a while and your body adjusts to consuming to that many calories - how do you go back to eating more without gaining the body fat back?

    simple answer - you cannot eat more then you burn and not gain body fat. Your body is just not efficient enough to convert 100% of excess energy to muscle; therefore, some of it has to go to fat stores...

    If you are doing a recomp, I would suggest eating in about a 10% deficit and lifting heavy. What is your current lifting program like? Just so you are aware, recomp is usually a really slow process ...

    Thank you for the advice! Yes I did think the recomp was a slow process, but I will start eating at a 10% deficit.

    I'm still a little unsure of macro breakdown as I usually try and aim for 30% protein 30% fats and 40% carbs, but sometimes this fluctautes. Sometimes my fats are 40% - and I think this should be lower?

    I am not following any specific lifting programme, but I usually do a 3-4 day split with 2 days focusing on legs and lower body. Doing compound lifts like deadliest and squats etc. I also incorporate 15-20 mins of HIIT on 2 days.
  • Chadomaniac
    Chadomaniac Posts: 1,785 Member
    no, I do not believe n starting a diet with a "detox" and I do not believe in clean eating..

    any book that starts its premise with "eat clean to detox" is pseudoscience and not worth your money IMO….

    eat in a deficit, work out more, adhere to macros = long term success...

    This man gets it
  • eldamiano
    eldamiano Posts: 2,667 Member
    Get a burger. You will feel just as 'amazing' as people claim from this book.
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    Get a burger. You will feel just as 'amazing' as people claim from this book.

    True. Haha
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Yeah I'm eating at maintenance because Im trying to recomposition. I will then eat at a deficit after to lean out and lose body fat %

    What I don't understand is, what happens when you eat at a deficit for a while and your body adjusts to consuming to that many calories - how do you go back to eating more without gaining the body fat back?

    simple answer - you cannot eat more then you burn and not gain body fat. Your body is just not efficient enough to convert 100% of excess energy to muscle; therefore, some of it has to go to fat stores...

    If you are doing a recomp, I would suggest eating in about a 10% deficit and lifting heavy. What is your current lifting program like? Just so you are aware, recomp is usually a really slow process ...

    Thank you for the advice! Yes I did think the recomp was a slow process, but I will start eating at a 10% deficit.

    I'm still a little unsure of macro breakdown as I usually try and aim for 30% protein 30% fats and 40% carbs, but sometimes this fluctautes. Sometimes my fats are 40% - and I think this should be lower?

    I am not following any specific lifting programme, but I usually do a 3-4 day split with 2 days focusing on legs and lower body. Doing compound lifts like deadliest and squats etc. I also incorporate 15-20 mins of HIIT on 2 days.

    If you want some really good books to pick up ..starting strength and new rules of lifting for woman are great resources…

    so you do an upper/lower split right now? That is what I do. Monday - upper; tuesday - lower; wens - HIIT/abs; thurs - upper; friday - lower; saturday - rest day; sunday - whatever I feel like doing…..

    if you are incorporating compounds into your routine it sounds like you already have a solid base of training to build on...
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    Yeah I'm eating at maintenance because Im trying to recomposition. I will then eat at a deficit after to lean out and lose body fat %

    What I don't understand is, what happens when you eat at a deficit for a while and your body adjusts to consuming to that many calories - how do you go back to eating more without gaining the body fat back?

    simple answer - you cannot eat more then you burn and not gain body fat. Your body is just not efficient enough to convert 100% of excess energy to muscle; therefore, some of it has to go to fat stores...

    If you are doing a recomp, I would suggest eating in about a 10% deficit and lifting heavy. What is your current lifting program like? Just so you are aware, recomp is usually a really slow process ...

    Thank you for the advice! Yes I did think the recomp was a slow process, but I will start eating at a 10% deficit.

    I'm still a little unsure of macro breakdown as I usually try and aim for 30% protein 30% fats and 40% carbs, but sometimes this fluctautes. Sometimes my fats are 40% - and I think this should be lower?

    I am not following any specific lifting programme, but I usually do a 3-4 day split with 2 days focusing on legs and lower body. Doing compound lifts like deadliest and squats etc. I also incorporate 15-20 mins of HIIT on 2 days.

    If you want some really good books to pick up ..starting strength and new rules of lifting for woman are great resources…

    so you do an upper/lower split right now? That is what I do. Monday - upper; tuesday - lower; wens - HIIT/abs; thurs - upper; friday - lower; saturday - rest day; sunday - whatever I feel like doing…..

    if you are incorporating compounds into your routine it sounds like you already have a solid base of training to build on...

    I've heard good recommendations on that New Rules of Lifting book, so think I'll get it - thanks...

    Yes upper lower split I've just started focusing on. I was doing a lot of cardio 3-4 times a week and am reducing that down now to 2 times a week max.

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