Depression?

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  • jjkarnitz
    jjkarnitz Posts: 55
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    I AM NOT A PHYSICIAN and I think you should see one if you haven't already. I do however, have years of personal experience with moderate clinical depression which includes trying to taper off meds time and time again.

    Even if you're not into yoga, you may want to check out the book 'Yoga for Depression'. It has done more for me than any other book on the subject, surprisingly. You can skip some of the far out stuff if you're not into it, but there are some activities/techniques suggested in that book that truly helped when things were really bad. Plus the woman who wrote it went through it herself and has been able to deal without medications.

    Good luck and hopefully you will find something to work for you.
  • raggiemom
    raggiemom Posts: 139 Member
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    Lots of good advice has been given. Exercise, reading self-help books and keeping a journal can all help. BUT you need to consult a professional too. Clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain; you can tough it out, but why would you when you don't have to? Medication in conjunction with therapy can be a great healer...I speak from experience.
  • mamafairey
    mamafairey Posts: 6 Member
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    CBT , Talking therapy , Exercise , Music , avoiding or increasing certain foods. The list is endless
    I AM on antidepressants and take beta blockers to ease my anxiety and i see a therapist every monday i exercise every day when possible and eat relatively well and get as much sleep as i can and i still have awful bouts of depression. I just think if you're predisposed to it then maybe you just have to ride it out? and enjoy the breaks when they come and just see it for what it is. A illness/Imbalance of chemicals/ life factors
    I really hope you find something that works.
    i have tried to come off anti depressants and when i do im ok for a while then when a depressive episode comes it is so much worse than it would be if i was on medication. Also being in a state like i was meant my kids suffered so i take medication to stop me doing silly things that may mess up my kids.
    Depression = A pain in my *kitten*!
    :flowerforyou:
    I hope everyone who suffers finds a solution
  • kdeaux1959
    kdeaux1959 Posts: 2,675 Member
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    sometimes meds can be the best option and if you cannot shake it, do whatever it takes to get better. There are several things that may help... Eating right, impoving your fitness level, lowering sugar intake, Multivitamins with strong zinc, and B-complex components may help. Exercise has been shown to help. Avoid circumstances that cause you to get down will help. Sometimes, all that is not enough.. at that point, you would need to see a counselor... Don't totally nix meds if necessary... Sometimes that can be your best option. All anti-depressants are not the same either. There are some herbs and supplements that have been shown to help but I would be cautious using those... SAM-E and St. John's Wort are two of those... This time of year, often absence of sunlight can be an issue -- you may try to increase your exposure to sunlight. By all means, if you get down enough to consider harming yourself or others, that is a medical emergency... go to the ER immediately any time day or night. Best wishes on a happier and more rewarding life.
  • Kayden1986
    Kayden1986 Posts: 189 Member
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    5-htp for me
  • copselily
    copselily Posts: 117
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    Hi, yes.

    I also use 5-htp (but please do your research before trying this!), exercise, and try to stick to foods high in tryptophan (which produces serotonin). There's an excellent book called 'The Mood Cure' about how to tailor your diet to your needs, especially if you have a serotonin deficiency.

    A good alternative to 5-htp is St John's Wort. :)
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
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    I'm telling you this so you know that, always, depression is a MF'er ... but it's a different MFer every time and sometimes you have to kill it with different bullets. My very best wishes and hopes go out to you. It is horrible and I hope you beat it to the gutter where it belongs.

    this highlighted sentence is very important, as is the advice that some forms of depression can only be properly treated with medication

    my experience, first time I was diagnosed with depression, I was put on antidepressants and they worked very well and I was off them again after six months or so... but then a few years later i had other problems including severe anxiety, other PTSD symptoms and depression. Turns out I had PTSD all along, this had been missed in my first diagnosis, and 2nd time around there was no option for having antidepressants as where i lived there were no mental health services, so I only had counselling (a combination of different therapies including CBT for PTSD) via skype with someone in the UK. That worked, in the long term, better than antidepressants did, because it treated the cause of the problem.

    You need to get to the root cause of the problem, and tackle it from there. If it's the form of depression that's purely a chemical imbalance in the brain, then the only treatment is antidepressants. If the depression is secondary to something less (life stress or another mental illness) then talking therapies can help a lot, but antidepressants may be necessary in the short term to get the person to the point where they can actually benefit from the talking therapies. Things like exercise, balanced diet, socialising with non-toxic people, getting out and doing stuff you can enjoy can help a LOT in managing the symptoms of depression and anxiety disorders including PTSD but they don't cure it. And in a lot of cases the depression can be too severe for the person to be able to start doing those kinds of things, and in those cases the person usually needs antidepressants to get them well enough to start to do those things, which then later on become their long term management strategies to stop the depression coming back.
  • caroldavison332
    caroldavison332 Posts: 864 Member
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    I have never been depressed but I am SHOCKED at how HAPPY I feel when I eat dr. Joel fuhrman anti cancer gombs diet (bitter greens collards kale mustard greens watercress. Onions. Mushrooms. Beans. Berries and seeds) that I wonder if people are STARVING and NOT DEPRESSED I also feel so much better when I exercise and play soccer with my dog. You can borrow a dog. Please consider reading "the happiness advantage" and training your brain and behavior to be more happy. If you need counseling and medication please get them. God bless.
  • denisejohnson754365
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    I have major depression and much to my dismay medication is the only thing that helps, if I go off them I become suicidal. it really sucks, but still exercise helps and eating right helps a lot and I am still going to try to go off meds some day, under the direction of a professional because when I do it myself it is not pretty. Wish you the best and hope your feeling better today, it is a good sign that you are reaching out! XXXOOO Denise
  • Saratini76
    Saratini76 Posts: 115 Member
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    While I agree with everyone stating that you should talk to your doctor, there are other ways to help combat it. I am on anti-depressants and do think it's an imbalance of chemicals that leads to depression along with factors in your life. Exercise and diet do wonders but I sometimes need an extra boost. I don't think it would work for everyone but GABA with L-Theanine and B vitamins helped me through some rough spots. This is what I used http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/kal-kal-gaba-l-theanine-stress-b-100-lozenges/ka-7286#.UyWuzvldXwk

    I reiterate that you MUST talk to a professional though. Don't try to overcome it alone.

    :flowerforyou: :heart:
  • writergeek313
    writergeek313 Posts: 390 Member
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    As others have said, it's a really good idea to talk to a doctor. If he or she just tries to push medication on you without listening, try another. Some levels of depression can respond to exercise, certain foods (I had a doctor once tell me sunlight and lots of dark leafy greens would help me), and other natural treatments, but not all forms can.

    I've had two pretty severe depressive episodes, the first about 10 years ago and one in 2012. In both cases, it was bad enough that I needed medication. I'm still taking a relatively low dose of a tricyclic. The SSRI I was on for the first one had loads of side effects, but with the tricyclic I've had almost none. The only downside is I can't drink alcohol. I'm probably well enough to go off of it, but at this point I don't want to take any chances. I do think exercising, eating right, getting plenty of sleep, and keeping my stress level low help, but those things alone wouldn't have been enough to pull me out of the worst of this last episode.
  • mrspeterson
    mrspeterson Posts: 54 Member
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    I have been greatly helped by regular exercise, talk therapy (CBT especially), but especially light therapy (I swear my Philips Go-lite has kept me off meds the past five winters). Please talk to someone in real life who knows you (family, friend or doctor) and can help you decide the severity of your symptoms. When you're depressed, it's sometimes hard to measure that stuff on your own, or via the internet.
  • A_Shoe_In
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    I have pretty much tried every anti-depressant there is. Some made me worse, some made me better for a short period of time, and the most recent one caused me to gain 20lbs in a couple of months. It is a very difficult situation. Finding a good counselor is a great help. Mine helped me navigate through all the different meds and keep a diary of what was going and the changes we would see. I have had doctors try and prescribe a drug we already tried that didnt work simply because they forgot. Being educated on what I was taking or what I would refuse to take is priceless. It can take weeks for some to have a therapeutic level in your body and weeks to rid them completely out of your system. So trying different meds can be time consuming and risky depending on how they affect you. The ones that made me worse had a huge impact on my work and relationships.

    Enough of that :o) I do exercise regularly now which helps. I feel good about it, its nice to have a place to go, the group I go to is very uplifting. I do take a very mild non-typical antidepressant these days (as it does not cause weight gain) and I am hoping this is all the formula to success.

    Best of luck to you on your journey!
  • Ashes_To_Beast
    Ashes_To_Beast Posts: 378 Member
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    Without going into too much detail, does anyone here suffer with depression that refuse to take anti-depressants? Is there any natural ways to overcome it without medication?

    About 8 months ago my doc was pushing me to start taking pills, with a toddler in the house I wanted other alternatives, did not want to be a zombie and have him suffer because I couldn't focus.
    I started going to the gym, that helped alot!
    Then a friend told me about depression often being linked with low testosterone. So I tried to boost it naturally with Vitamine D and zinc supplements(google the benifits to find proper dossage).. Within 2 months I started feeling alot more energy and found myself laughing alot more.
    Now with those two changes I feel completely different than 8 months ago.
    Food for thought.
    Cheers
  • knitapeace
    knitapeace Posts: 1,013 Member
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    Lots of good advice here from my limited perspective. I don't suffer from depression but a family member does and medication is very helpful. However I've recently started doing mindfulness meditation and there are some pretty hefty claims (which I personally can't verify but will pass along) that meditation can be very effective in easing depression. I started with some free apps and now like the mindful.org website. It can be as spiritual--or not--as you want it to be (that was one of my concerns).
  • elghee123
    elghee123 Posts: 489 Member
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    My doctor gave me a strong drug to battle the burnout and depression. I took one and it helped. Then my cousin who is Physical Therapist saw the med and warned me about the side effect in the long run. So, I decided not to take the rest of the meds.

    It was months of battle going to my psychologist. He helped me a lot by listening but I owe most part of it by helping myself resolve the root cause of depression. I dealt with it. I ditch toxic people around me and could not care less if they hated me for doing it. They never cared but about themselves me anyway. They just suck out the last blood energy out of me. For those toxic people who cared and want to stay behind - I gave them the new ME!

    The decision to drop meds was all mine. Dealt the problem. Set resolution. Then lastly - EXERCISE!!

    I am loving everyday of my life.
  • KateV888
    KateV888 Posts: 20 Member
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    Psychotherapy and exercise are well studied and shown to improve depression. All forms of psychotherapy, but particularly cognitive behavioral therapy i(CBT) is very well studied.

    The book that's been mentioned several times "Feeling Good" by David Burns is actually self-help CBT. It's an awesome book. It also gives you some guidelines in the beginning for when you depression needs professional treatment and not self-help.

    But iI still agree with the people who say see a doctor to get an evaluation.

    I've had pretty bad depression and I've been helped by therapy, Meds, mindfulness and some great professional care.
  • canadjineh
    canadjineh Posts: 5,396 Member
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    Lots of good advice has been given. Exercise, reading self-help books and keeping a journal can all help. BUT you need to consult a professional too. Clinical depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain; you can tough it out, but why would you when you don't have to? Medication in conjunction with therapy can be a great healer...I speak from experience.

    ^^ THIS^^

    Simply said... and very true. My mom & my aunt were diagnosed years ago with two different kinds of clinical depression - all of the above modalities helped, but the medications are a vital part of their treatments. The problem is... when the meds start working for you, it feels like there is nothing wrong, so you think "I don't actually need these - I'll go off them now" and it can become a horrible cycle spiraling down to suicide. To the original poster: Please work with a doctor and therapist you trust and talk to them truthfully... not just telling them what you think they want to hear. Hoping the best for you.
  • craziwrld
    craziwrld Posts: 43 Member
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    I personally have clinical depression, I was diagnosed with it at age 11 after I tried to kill myself, though I only told my mom that I was thinking about it, not that I had tried. They tried to put me on anti depressants, but my body was just too young to handle it. So I went through therapy, years of therapy, to learn how to cope with my depression. I was taught a lot of different ways to handle stress and my triggers for anxiety and depression. But recently it got to the point where I couldn't handle it anymore and stated thinking about suicide again. I realized that I needed to get help, and while I was scared of my previous reaction to the meds, that now there are a lot more choices and my body is a lot more physically mature. So I went and got meds. I am feeling better a lot better. I think I should have done it a lot sooner, but I was scared. You just have to find a doctor that you'll be comfortable with. Though if you are suicidal you should go to the hospital and they will get you stated on meds, cuz getting into see a psychiatrist can take a few months. Now I didn't tell you about me for sympathy, I told you cuz is Ok to struggle and be scared. And if you don't wantmeds is possible if you have clinical depression that isn't that bad and are willing to commit to a very long therapy course. It was a lot of work. But you have to be able to admit to yourself when you can't handle it anymore and get help. If you have situational depression, depending on the severity, a psychiatrist would prob recommend seeing a psychologist about therapy first before going to meds. But you need to go in and be diagnosed. If you aren't comfortable taking meds tell them and they will give you your options. But getting help is the first step. Goodluck, I hope you manage to get help, and if you need to talk to someone I'mhere, I know how hard it can be.