Healthy Low Carb? Exist?
deebee227
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I NEED to detox from the white stuff. I eat way too much and I am very overweight. I don't mind doing low carb but I just don't want to eat so much fat! I am not a cheese person really, but I am eating it just to make up my 1200 calories.
Anyone have some suggestions?? I would like to do a 1200 cal, low carb <30 a day, but also stay in my fat grams!
Anyone have some suggestions?? I would like to do a 1200 cal, low carb <30 a day, but also stay in my fat grams!
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Misleading... Which White stuff you talking about?!?
Why do you want to keep your carbs low?
Why fats limited?
What's your activity level?0 -
What do you have your fat grams for the day at?
I average anywhere from 1,000 - 1,400 calories a day and do 25 carbs or less. But my fat would probably be considered high.
I don't recommend going as low as 1,000.... It usually just happens on days I'm out running around and get home way late and enter my food and realize I'm way under and at that point it's bedtime and I'm not going to cook food. But I am making some coconut oil "candies" to be able to bridge the gap a little bit. As well as celery and cream cheese.0 -
White flour, white sugar, white pasta, white rice. I need these OUT of my life for good! I don't want to go back to eating any of that personally. Its just not necessary. I also don't eat a lot pre-packaged foods (other than salad dressing/some sauces).....
My fat grans are just set at 40 because that's what MFP set it at. Should I try to stick to it? All I have been eating is stir fries and salads, but I was adding huge globs of fat because I needed the calories to meet 1200. Its frustrating~0 -
Misleading... Which White stuff you talking about?!?
Why do you want to keep your carbs low?
Why fats limited?
What's your activity level?
My guess from her post title..........Healthy Low Carb........she believes that both carbs AND fats are bad?! Throw in all white foods are bad too?!
If you want low carb with only "healthy" fats ......meat, olive oil, avocado, nuts, nut butters (no sugar added)0 -
White flour, white sugar, white pasta, white rice. I need these OUT of my life for good! I don't want to go back to eating any of that personally. Its just not necessary. I also don't eat a lot pre-packaged foods (other than salad dressing/some sauces).....
My fat grans are just set at 40 because that's what MFP set it at. Should I try to stick to it? All I have been eating is stir fries and salads, but I was adding huge globs of fat because I needed the calories to meet 1200. Its frustrating~
I honestly had no idea what mine were at or even where to find it but I just did and mine is set at 60g. I really have never paid attention to it.
I eat a lot of avocado and tuna and salad and eggs so I never really paid attention to my fat because my calories were low.
I'm not quite sure how to up the calories without upping the fats when doing low carb....0 -
well switch to brown rice and whole grain pasta... sugar should be reudced in generalWhite flour, white sugar, white pasta, white rice. I need these OUT of my life for good! I don't want to go back to eating any of that personally. Its just not necessary. I also don't eat a lot pre-packaged foods (other than salad dressing/some sauces).....
My fat grans are just set at 40 because that's what MFP set it at. Should I try to stick to it? All I have been eating is stir fries and salads, but I was adding huge globs of fat because I needed the calories to meet 1200. Its frustrating~
there are healthy fats you know. Avocado, almond butter, nuts, legumes. You should be keeping an eye on the TYPES of fats you're eating.
I personally AM lower carb, but when I say that I just mean I try my best to not eat processed carbs (i personally dont even eat whole grain pastas, but if you like them I say eat them). I still go to town on fruits, veggies, quinoa, ect. So if you like you can troll my diary for ideas, or check my recipes. But I am a vegetarian so feel free to add meat wherever you want.0 -
In the goals section instead of using the MFP set numbers you can customize them yourself. But if you dont really know what you're doing I dont recommend changing it too much.White flour, white sugar, white pasta, white rice. I need these OUT of my life for good! I don't want to go back to eating any of that personally. Its just not necessary. I also don't eat a lot pre-packaged foods (other than salad dressing/some sauces).....
My fat grans are just set at 40 because that's what MFP set it at. Should I try to stick to it? All I have been eating is stir fries and salads, but I was adding huge globs of fat because I needed the calories to meet 1200. Its frustrating~
I honestly had no idea what mine were at or even where to find it but I just did and mine is set at 60g. I really have never paid attention to it.
I eat a lot of avocado and tuna and salad and eggs so I never really paid attention to my fat because my calories were low.
I'm not quite sure how to up the calories without upping the fats when doing low carb....0 -
OP, you're overthinking it.
You can go low carb if you want, but there's no need to.
Also, 1200? Pff.
Look, take a gander at this:
Here, try some of these:
1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. If you ask a question on the forum, give as much information as you can ("yes, I have a food scale and weigh my food" is worlds better than "I eat a palm full of miscellaneous boiled chicken parts..sometimes.")
17. Be honest with yourself and honest with us.
18. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.
pretty much that.
...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:
the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.
Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.
I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.
Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.
Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
and make sure to read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
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Got news for you, unless you are petite, rather skinny and consider yourself sedentary then you calories are low - possibly very low.
Other news, carbs (all carbs) are good and fats too!
Dropping carbs means depleting muscles from glycogen hence loss of mass - water levels drops too hence your weight variation.
Fat is energy and 40 grams are very low... Unless, once again you are the petite I was referring to earlier.
Just because MFP tells you too, it doesn't mean it is correct - far from it!!0 -
I NEED to detox from the white stuff.
i think perhaps you NEED to read a bit before making this decision.
also, lol @ detox.
please read trog's excellent post.0 -
There is absolutely NO harm in dropping sugar and white flour foods....
I would also suggest maybe adding in some quinoa Or brown rice or something like that.... Whole grains....If you don't want to cut it out completely.
Just make sure you are eating enough to fuel your body. Fat and calorie wise.0 -
I NEED to detox from the white stuff.
If it's cocaine we're talkin', then yes, I would agree.0 -
I no longer eat wheat, rice or potato. They have a very high glycemic index. I eat all the beans-black, cannelini, aduki, kidney, lima, green peas, lentils,pigeon peas, cutlass beans ,bambarra beans, blackeyed peas, cranberry beans, fava, garbanzo, etc. I eat all the winter squashes ,pumpkin and gourds. I make breads, wraps and flatbreads out of all the other non-wheat flours. I eat all the other grains-millet, tef, quinoa etc0
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I no longer eat wheat, rice or potato. They have a very high glycemic index. I eat all the beans-black, cannelini, aduki, kidney, lima, green peas, lentils,pigeon peas, cutlass beans ,bambarra beans, blackeyed peas, cranberry beans, fava, garbanzo, etc. I eat all the winter squashes ,pumpkin and gourds. I make breads, wraps and flatbreads out of all the other non-wheat flours. I eat all the other grains-millet, tef, quinoa etc
Yes! If you don't have to stay super low carb for medical reasons this is the diet I would and did follow before.... I highly recommend it!0 -
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...just to read the rest of this thread to see if it is or isn't about cocaine.0 -
There is absolutely NO harm in dropping sugar and white flour foods....
I would also suggest maybe adding in some quinoa Or brown rice or something like that.... Whole grains....If you don't want to cut it out completely.
Just make sure you are eating enough to fuel your body. Fat and calorie wise.
Unless it creates an unrealistic belief that it is necessary for success which leads one to give up entirely when they can't meet the unrealistic expectation.
Of course, *that* never happens...to anyone...ever.0 -
There is absolutely NO harm in dropping sugar and white flour foods....
I would also suggest maybe adding in some quinoa Or brown rice or something like that.... Whole grains....If you don't want to cut it out completely.
Just make sure you are eating enough to fuel your body. Fat and calorie wise.
Unless it creates an unrealistic belief that it is necessary for success which leads one to give up entirely when they can't meet the unrealistic expectation.
Of course, *that* never happens...to anyone...ever.
That's why my post right after that told her unless she was doing it for medical reasons I would suggest maybe focusing on something else....0 -
Yikes. Alot of really snarky posts. I cap things a lot so its all good.
But seriously- nobody needs to eat white rice/flour/pasta. It is actually very BAD for you. So cutting it out is more for health reasons in general than weight loss. I think 40 grams of fat also seems like a lot as well....I like eating fresh foods without lots of preservatives, thank you all so much for the advice esp. trog's post. It was excellent.
I thought maybe people would offer meals that they use, but I guess when I said low carb people jumped all over it. I said low carb not Atkins!0 -
OP, you're overthinking it.
You can go low carb if you want, but there's no need to.
Also, 1200? Pff.
Look, take a gander at this:
Here, try some of these:
1. don't trust the initial setup that MFP provides. If you put in the wrong/inaccurate information, it'll tell you to eat an amount that may not be applicable.
2. Make sure you eat enough.
3. Figure out what works for you and is sustainable/healthy/long term.
4. avoid fads. don't buy in to any "Hey, try the twinkie and vodka diet"
5. Don't cut out anything now that you don't plan on literally giving up forever.
6. GET A FOOD SCALE. Weigh everything. No, seriously.
7. Get an HRM with a chest strap. You'll at least have a better idea of what you're burning. It'll be more accurate than the generic info in the exercise database.. and even more than the cardio machines. This is great for steady state cardio (run/walk/etc)
8. Don't go balls out. You'll burn out. I see 300 lb people show up here, instantly start working out and cutting their intake SEVERELY... trying to cut out all of their carbs at once.. whatever. Take it slow. Figure out how much you need to eat FIRST in order to lose.. then incorporate exercise.
9. Don't cardio yourself to death.
10. Take the information on the forums with a grain of salt. A lot of people that have been here for a while.. and have been successful, may seem jaded. They give out GREAT advice day after day, only to be met with people that refuse to listen.
11. Eat real food. Not diet food. Not "low fat, sugar free, now without X." It's easier to get/find/count.
12. don't set time restrictions.
13. measure yourself weekly. Don't just weigh. Measure and take pictures.
14 BE PATIENT.
15. Avoid forum topics that have "1200" in the title. It's just full of butthurt. Lots of it.
16. If you ask a question on the forum, give as much information as you can ("yes, I have a food scale and weigh my food" is worlds better than "I eat a palm full of miscellaneous boiled chicken parts..sometimes.")
17. Be honest with yourself and honest with us.
18. This isn't a game, it's about changing your lifestyle. Do that.
pretty much that.
...and don't fall into the "1200 calorie" vertigo of suck because of:
the typical MFP users does this:
1. I wanna lose weight, let's try MFP.
2. OH! Wow, it tells me I can lose 2 lbs a WEEK? AWESOME!
3. I just sit at a desk when I'm not working out, I guess I'm sedentary.
4. MFP tells them 1200 calories, and they don't even eat that.. then they work out on top of it.. creating an even bigger deficit.
5. Lose a lot, fast, brag about 1200 calorie success.
6. Come back in a few months trying to figure out why they're dizzy, tired, not losing weight.
7. Get on the forums, ask why they aren't losing.
8. Get two responses (I eat 1200 and lose) (I eat 2200 and lose)
9. Argument ensues about who is right.
Now. That being said. These threads happen hundreds of times per day. Most times, and I mean really.. seriously.. 95% of the time.. people get the 1200 number because they don't put the right information in when they set up the account. There are a great number of people that are trying to help. I'm one of 'em.
I'm a hardcore advocate of actually finding out what works for the individual.. by means of other calculators, averages, time, practice, and patience.
Blanket prescriptions of 1200 calories "because it worked for me" is more harmful to the generic new user than the "figure out what you need to eat." Unfortunately, one is a LOT easier to type.
Find out what you need: http://scoobysworkshop.com/accurate-calorie-calculator/
and make sure to read: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1080242-a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants
Seriously.
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If you are only not wanting to eat those foods because they are "white" then go for brown rice and pastas and alternate flours.
Why do you think you shouldn't be eating those foods?
If you are thinking you should go lower carb that doesn't mean and no breads, pastas etc. It means lower amounts of carbs including fruits and veggies. My trainer wants me to try lower carb and I thought that mean't like 100 or less grams/day but he is saying 120 is still good when we discuss my food intake.
I honestly have no idea how you could not possibly reach 1200cal.
Breakfast of a couple eggs, with a little cheese, meat and some fruit is easily 300cals. Lunch of a sandwich with 3-4oz of meat and veggies can be a good 400cal. A snack of veggies, yogurt, fruit, nuts or the like can be a good 200cal a pop and finally dinner of chicken/fish/meat around 4-6 ounces, veggies, and some rice/pasta/coucous or whatever starch you favor is easily 500-600cal. And this can be all for a carb total of probably about 120 depending on the combination of foods. Some fruits and veggies are very high in carbs.
Unless you are not exercising at all and only sitting on the couch all day your body needs more then 1200 calories and even then 1200 is low.0 -
You cann't do low carb and low fat. When you eat low carb you eat higher fat.
When you eat low carb, you still eat some carbs, and eventually work your way back up to introducing more carbs. Will you be able to do this as a lifestyle though? Will you really never eat whatever you consider "white" again? I eat low carb because I find I get more full off of eating higher fat foods, which results in the calorie deficit. But will I never have a piece of cake again? Of course I will.
In order to meet your calorie goals, you can't just cut down carbs, and leave your fat intake the same, that's WHY you have trouble meeting that. You are overweight and didn't have trouble eating before, why there is an issue now with not eating enough I don't understand.0 -
Yikes. Alot of really snarky posts. I cap things a lot so its all good.
But seriously- nobody needs to eat white rice/flour/pasta. It is actually very BAD for you. So cutting it out is more for health reasons in general than weight loss. I think 40 grams of fat also seems like a lot as well....I like eating fresh foods without lots of preservatives, thank you all so much for the advice esp. trog's post. It was excellent.
I thought maybe people would offer meals that they use, but I guess when I said low carb people jumped all over it. I said low carb not Atkins!
Well.. For one, I was never snarky, for two I tried to help since I do low carb... BUT since I follow Atkins and apparently that makes my help invalid I'll stop.0 -
Yikes. Alot of really snarky posts. I cap things a lot so its all good.
But seriously- nobody needs to eat white rice/flour/pasta. It is actually very BAD for you. So cutting it out is more for health reasons in general than weight loss. I think 40 grams of fat also seems like a lot as well....I like eating fresh foods without lots of preservatives, thank you all so much for the advice esp. trog's post. It was excellent.
I thought maybe people would offer meals that they use, but I guess when I said low carb people jumped all over it. I said low carb not Atkins!
Nope. Pasta is NOT bad for you. There are lots of different pastas out there. Some now even put veggies in them. There's brown rice pasta. Regular pasta is not bad and it's not the devil either.
Food is food. To lose weight you need a calorie deficit. That's it.0 -
Am I missing something? I understand that a lot of processed simple carbs such as white bread, pastries etc. aren't ideal for weight loss. However, the majority of fruits and vegetables include carbs plus valuable micronutrients. In my diary this week there are raspberries, broccoli, kale, beets etc. all which contain carbs. Carbohydrates, proteins and fats form the three main macronutrients that are essential in every balanced diet. "While proteins and fats may be responsible for bodily functions such as the creation of body tissues and insulation, carbohydrates provide calories that are necessary for the production of energy. In fact, carbs provide more than 60 percent of the amount of energy required by the body. The energy is mostly used for normal body functions such as heartbeat, digestion, breathing and body movement. Carbohydrates can be classified according to their chemical structures, and under such classification, they are divided into simple carbohydrates and complex carbohydrates." (Fitday article)
I understand the desire to emphasize complex carbs, which have higher nutrition, but low carbs overall seems odd. Am I missing something or when people say "low carb" do they really mean "quality carb" (not that a piece of white bread will kill you
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I NEED to detox from the white stuff. I eat way too much and I am very overweight. I don't mind doing low carb but I just don't want to eat so much fat! I am not a cheese person really, but I am eating it just to make up my 1200 calories.
Anyone have some suggestions?? I would like to do a 1200 cal, low carb <30 a day, but also stay in my fat grams!
Yes. In a word: Atkins. Pick up a copy of New Atkins for a New You. Read it, give the diet an honest go. It's a very healthy diet. Don't be afraid of fat. Atkins is not a low fat diet. Fat is your friend.0 -
In for the snark.0
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You didn't speficially ask for meals.Yikes. Alot of really snarky posts. I cap things a lot so its all good.
But seriously- nobody needs to eat white rice/flour/pasta. It is actually very BAD for you. So cutting it out is more for health reasons in general than weight loss. I think 40 grams of fat also seems like a lot as well....I like eating fresh foods without lots of preservatives, thank you all so much for the advice esp. trog's post. It was excellent.
I thought maybe people would offer meals that they use, but I guess when I said low carb people jumped all over it. I said low carb not Atkins!
Here's a piece of advice: don't go around telling people what is bad for them to eat. You can eat pasta/white rice and still lose weight. You can't expect people to not counter back to you on that.
Atkins is a form of low carb.
I eat low carb so for breakfast it's usually eggs and spinach or some type of scramble. Or a sausage patty and egg. Sometimes I eat an Atkins bar (New Atkins counts NET carbs which basically subtracts fiber and sugar alcohols from carbs, Old Atkins is total carbs)
I eat cheeseburgers with no bun, salad with grilled chicken and a cream based dressing. Fajitas (steak or chicken usually) with no tortilla, lettuce, sour cream, shredded cheese, and some tomato. I also make taco salads with ground beef with taco seasoning (you have to watch the carbs on the seasonings), sour cream, lettuce, shredded cheese and hot sauce.0 -
I NEED to detox from the white stuff. ....
This?.....
Otherwise, Trog already gave the best advice possible in his earlier post.0 -
I NEED to detox from the white stuff. I eat way too much and I am very overweight. I don't mind doing low carb but I just don't want to eat so much fat! I am not a cheese person really, but I am eating it just to make up my 1200 calories.
Anyone have some suggestions?? I would like to do a 1200 cal, low carb <30 a day, but also stay in my fat grams!
If you want to keep your carbs that low you need to significantly raise your fat and protein levels.
I eat lots of vegetables everyday and seldom go over 40 grams of carbs. My "higher" carb days come from when I eat fruit.
And I don't count calories either. I go with the notion of QUALITY over QUANTITY.0 -
I NEED to detox from the white stuff. I eat way too much and I am very overweight. I don't mind doing low carb but I just don't want to eat so much fat! I am not a cheese person really, but I am eating it just to make up my 1200 calories.
Anyone have some suggestions?? I would like to do a 1200 cal, low carb <30 a day, but also stay in my fat grams!
Yes. In a word: Atkins. Pick up a copy of New Atkins for a New You. Read it, give the diet an honest go. It's a very healthy diet. Don't be afraid of fat. Atkins is not a low fat diet. Fat is your friend.
If you want to follow The Atkins Lifestyle, the 2002 version (the last one Dr Atkins wrote before he died) is the best one. It is based on eating WHOLE foods and not the products (bars, shakes and frozen meals) that the new plan factors into the plan.
The 1972 version of Atkins is the very, very strict one that utilizes total carb counts, which I prefer to do also. Its ridiculous to me to subtract fiber. My endocrinologist agrees with me as he stated the "net" carb thing is there just so people can justify eating more because when they subtract fiber they have more carbs there to eat.
I believe in completely nourishing your body, not feeding it crap disguised as food. That is all those pre-packaged bars, shakes, frozen meals are - crap disguised to look like food.
If you stick to the basics of protein, fats and green leafy vegetables...........through in some berries for a snack and you are eating healthy.0
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