Do you count calories burned from lifting?
MaiLinna
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Lifting for half an hour seems to burn about 100 calories, and that's quite a bit imo. Is it true? Should I log it?
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I wear a HRM and when I do lifting, includes squats, lunges, and whatever else I do with weights, and I log it, I burn close to 300 for about 45mintues of lifting.0
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I've heard an hour is about 100 calories... I tend to knock 15 minutes off and log that. Not very scientific, I know. If I do an hour, I log 45 etc.
I don't use my HRM for lifting but I might just start logging what that says.0 -
I would suggest getting a HRM. It all depends on your effort/weight/height/age. But that sounds pretty low... If you're using MFP's calculators, I would use circuit training, general instead of strength training.0
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I would suggest getting a HRM. It all depends on your effort/weight/height/age. But that sounds pretty low... If you're using MFP's calculators, I would use circuit training, general instead of strength training.
from my understanding HRMs work best for steady state cardio (running, walking, etc).0 -
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HRMs are not accurate for anything other than steady state cardio such as running, elliptical, cycling....etc.0
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HRMs are not accurate for anything other than steady state cardio such as running, elliptical, cycling....etc.
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ETA: this blog post explains better than I can http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/hrms-cannot-count-calories-during-strength-training-176980 -
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I would suggest getting a HRM. It all depends on your effort/weight/height/age. But that sounds pretty low... If you're using MFP's calculators, I would use circuit training, general instead of strength training.
What?
It's not low for lifting at all.
Why should she log it as circuit training, when she's lifting weights? They are 2 different things.
An HRM will not tell you how much you burn for lifting weights, it's for cardio workouts.0 -
it depends on what method of weight loss youre using....
are you using a model that suggest eating back exercise calories? if so, then i guess you can log it, but it's gonna be tough to get an accurate reading. so many variables.
if youre following a model that builds exercise burn into it, then i wouldnt bother, since your daily calorie goal accounts for it.
edited to add: this is why i do 80% of TDEE....it's all built in....i dont log my burns and i dont worry about eating back exercise cals. no muss no fuss.0 -
I use this one:
Strength training (weight lifting, weight training)
I'm just sitting in a chair watching TV and lifting a backpack filled with books. I weighed it, it was almost 11 lbs. I do 5 curls with one arm, 5 with the other, then 10, then I lift it up and do that over the shoulder upper back lift 5 times and start over. I do this over and over again until either my arms are just too weak and tired to continue or the television program is over. I outlasted the program last time.
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If you're doing heavy strength training (ie pushing your 5RM every time if you can), it may well over all burn a fair bit more than that.
If you're already on a high deficit, 100 calories is fine and maybe add some more.
If you're on a low deficit, could consider it a higher deficit day.
Me, I eat 1000 calories extra on workout days as part of a lean-gains style regime.
And yes, a HRM won't provide you with useful information - they work on models that are reasonably accurate for steady state cardio. There's no good data on training and heart rate isn't a good way to measure exertion from weight training.0 -
ur body burns a lot of calories from liftig. and even after u leave the gym ur burning calories for the next 24 to 36 hours.0
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I use this one:
Strength training (weight lifting, weight training)
I'm just sitting in a chair watching TV and lifting a backpack filled with books. I weighed it, it was almost 11 lbs. I do 5 curls with one arm, 5 with the other, then 10, then I lift it up and do that over the shoulder upper back lift 5 times and start over. I do this over and over again until either my arms are just too weak and tired to continue or the television program is over. I outlasted the program last time.
and what is your calorie burn from this?
nm...i checked out your diary.0 -
Method of weight loss? Well the way I have it set up is to just try and aim for 1400 calories or so. I don't try to eat back my exercise calories. I just want it for personal goals. I eventually want to work my way up to a constant 500 calories burned a week from exercise and gradually increase it from there.0
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"Wii U" in my diary is kickboxing and yoga btw.0
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Method of weight loss? Well the way I have it set up is to just try and aim for 1400 calories or so. I don't try to eat back my exercise calories. I just want it for personal goals. I eventually want to work my way up to a constant 500 calories burned a week from exercise and gradually increase it from there.
where'd you get the 1400 number?
just as an experiment, check out what your TDEE is:
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
you may find that 1400 isnt really enough for you (or that 1400 is perfect).0 -
HRMs are not accurate for anything other than steady state cardio such as running, elliptical, cycling....etc.
Just belaboring this point...there is no direct correlation between your HR and your calorie burn.
OP, it is pretty difficult to determine exactly what the calorie burn from lifting is because there are a huge number of variables...far more than any steady state cardio. It is also nary impossible to determine the after burn. This is why most people who make lifting a big part of their fitness plan ultimately gravitate to the TDEE method...you don't have to concern yourself so much with individual burns using the TDEE method as you do with MFP.0 -
I log strength training as roughly 300-500 calories/hour depending on what I'm doing and the intensity. I couldn't tell you how exact those numbers are, but for me it seems reasonably close as I eat those calories back and my weight loss has stayed on schedule.0
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Method of weight loss? Well the way I have it set up is to just try and aim for 1400 calories or so. I don't try to eat back my exercise calories. I just want it for personal goals. I eventually want to work my way up to a constant 500 calories burned a week from exercise and gradually increase it from there.
where'd you get the 1400 number?
just as an experiment, check out what your TDEE is:
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
you may find that 1400 isnt really enough for you (or that 1400 is perfect).
http://funeralformyfat.tumblr.com/eatingenough
Edit: My TDEE is 1856. That's why I have it at 1400. Or 1425 maybe. I pretty much count my exercise already, which is why I don't go over, but I still have personal fitness goals.0 -
I just use the TDEE method and don't worry about logging exercise calories. Makes life so much easier. I hate trying to figure out calorie burns and I'm sure they're always wrong anyway.0
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no, HRM aren't reading weightlifting right. It's been proven.
It ain't cardio. You do burn a lot...but you cannot based yourself on an HRM..the reading won't be right.
Unless you do intervals...weights-cardio mix program.0 -
Oh, so I think I am using the TDEE method. The logs are for personal goals though. I'm not an exercise calorie eater backer.0
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Method of weight loss? Well the way I have it set up is to just try and aim for 1400 calories or so. I don't try to eat back my exercise calories. I just want it for personal goals. I eventually want to work my way up to a constant 500 calories burned a week from exercise and gradually increase it from there.
where'd you get the 1400 number?
just as an experiment, check out what your TDEE is:
http://www.fitnessfrog.com/calculators/tdee-calculator.html
you may find that 1400 isnt really enough for you (or that 1400 is perfect).
http://funeralformyfat.tumblr.com/eatingenough
i didnt bother doing the math to figure out my own, but it looks like that could be a solid method.
the TDEE method is one in which you eat 75-80% of your TDEE, whereas that blog looks like it's building on BMR....6 one way half a dozen the other? possibly. so 1400 might be a good number for you.
the other thing i *think* im reading, is that you dont have to worry about exercise days vs. rest days....so i think the shortest answer to your question is dont bother logging your exercise cals.
Edited to add:Oh, so I think I am using the TDEE method. The logs are for personal goals though. I'm not an exercise calorie eater backer.
sry, i missed the part where you said the logging of exercise is for personal goals. in that case, i think i would just try to find some estimated burns for what youre doing and average them to get a decent number to use.
im not much help on that front. :drinker:0 -
Ok, I'll just stick to MFP's estimates since most people think they sound on the small side. It's safer. Thanks!0
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Ok, I'll just stick to MFP's estimates since most people think they sound on the small side. It's safer. Thanks!
smart move....always go with the lesser estimate. :happy:0 -
So - this is more out of curiousity then something I can put to immediate use - but for those using TDEE and thinking this solves some of the estimation issues associated with strength training and MFP's NEAT approach - why?
Rather than having trouble estimating burns for a specific workout, you're left estimating burns for several specific workouts over the course of the week, or using a calculator's generic "x hours per week of exercise." Put another way, I can either estimate my burn for each daily workout, or I can use a TDEE calculator's "3-5 hours exercise per week" (or of course just manually estimate 4 lifting sessions' burns over the course of the week and go from there).
Either way I am relying on my own estimate or a generic calculator's "hourly rate" that doesn't even specify what sort of exercise I am getting. (FWIW, I am basically just going with an estimate and I'll readjust after a month or so based on actual results).0 -
People follow TDEE because it's generally a "close enough" estimate. If I ate my TDEE (calculated with activity) daily, my weight loss would continue; it just wouldn't be as consistent/accurate as it is now. For instance, weeks where I do mostly strength training would be a less aggressive deficit, while weeks where I incorporate several hours of cardio would be a more aggressive deficit. In the long run though, it's close enough for most people and it's less work to use TDEE.0
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So - this is more out of curiousity then something I can put to immediate use - but for those using TDEE and thinking this solves some of the estimation issues associated with strength training and MFP's NEAT approach - why?
Essentially it just takes the potential error and smears it over time, rather than trying to deal with it on a daily basis. It's still the same error but by smearing it the impact is significantly lessened. In that sense it's probably more realistic as weight isn't sensitive to daily calorie intake but to the trend in intake.0 -
So - this is more out of curiousity then something I can put to immediate use - but for those using TDEE and thinking this solves some of the estimation issues associated with strength training and MFP's NEAT approach - why?
Rather than having trouble estimating burns for a specific workout, you're left estimating burns for several specific workouts over the course of the week, or using a calculator's generic "x hours per week of exercise." Put another way, I can either estimate my burn for each daily workout, or I can use a TDEE calculator's "3-5 hours exercise per week" (or of course just manually estimate 4 lifting sessions' burns over the course of the week and go from there).
Either way I am relying on my own estimate or a generic calculator's "hourly rate" that doesn't even specify what sort of exercise I am getting. (FWIW, I am basically just going with an estimate and I'll readjust after a month or so based on actual results).
You really just have to get an estimate and play with your counts to get it figured out. My TDEE changes in the warmer months, compared to winter months. I just know I have a ballpark TDEE, I check my weight every couple weeks and see where I'm at and adjust from there.0
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